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Black Album worship thread This album rocks. If only we knew his real opinion to why he never released it in 87'
(im not a fan of lovesexy btw) You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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It's pretty obvious why he didn't release it, including the partial urban legend, and the full on truth. | |
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Le Grind, Dead On It and When 2 R In Love are great songs. I don't care much for the other songs. | |
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The Black Album rules. I often forget to mention it when I'm talking about great or my favourite Prince albums, but it's definitely a very cool and trippy album. I love its mood. [Edited 5/20/09 0:30am] | |
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It was a Big Risk and Controversial
And it will be talked about for a very long time A True Prince Classic it! | |
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I love this great album,
a classic just like Lovesexy.... Prince 4Ever. | |
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I really don't understand why he never released it.
It is certainly NOT any more shocking OR controversial from the myriad of other stuff he has released. Why didn't he release it? I love Bob George and Superfunky... Oh all of them really! A great album and very under-rated - even by the Prince community! Shut up already, damn. | |
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^ never released it?
- well it was released in 1994 for a limited time period [Edited 5/20/09 1:40am] Prince 4Ever. | |
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I'm as fascinated with this album as the first time I listened to my bootleg vinyl copy. This one goes to eleven.
Le Grind Cindy C. Dead On It When 2 R In Love Bob George Superfunkycalifragisexy 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton Rockhard In A Funky Place If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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pepper7 said: I really don't understand why he never released it.
It is certainly NOT any more shocking OR controversial from the myriad of other stuff he has released. Why didn't he release it? I love Bob George and Superfunky... Oh all of them really! A great album and very under-rated - even by the Prince community! Very thorough site dedicated to The Funk Bible: http://www.theblackalbum.info/ The Black Album 1987 - Welcome to the Funk Bible No album with this name was planned. No name of the artist could be found other than "Somebody" on Warner’s release schedule. Just a record with a production code printed in orange lettering on the spine of the black sleeve. Although the original title 'Funk Bible" was mentioned, buried in the mix, at the beginning of the first song "Le Grind", it was never used as record title and of course it was dubbed "The Black Album" because that's what it is... The history of this album appears to start at the end of the European leg of the Sign ‘O’ The Times tour. Prince seemed to be frustrated about the weak sales figures of the Sign ‘O’ The Times album and the accompanying criticism. Although he received positive reviews on the prolific double album some critics started to say that Prince had become too pop-oriented and had lost his ability to write good music. In October 1987 Prince starts to work on an album to prove that everybody is wrong. This would become the Black Album a.k.a. Funk Bible . He records ‘When 2 R In Love’ and updates some other songs, which date back from September 1986 to March 1987. The use of older songs is actually a funny move when you think about he motivation of this album. It doesn’t prove the point about his capabilities at that point but more of those in the past. But then most people knew little about Prince’s vault with songs. In the middle of November the album is finished and the tape is sent to Warner Brothers for mastering. In December 1987, one week prior to the album's release Prince reconsidered the project, cancelled it and recalled all copies for destruction. 500.000 copies where already pressed and waiting to be shipped out. By then many promotional copies where out in world (estimates state roughly hundred) which contents soon would serve as a basis for the most bootlegged album ever. Rumours of this recalled secret Prince album hit the streets and fans started to look for it. Very soon different, bad and incomplete copies circulated on tapes among collectors. On March 6, 1988 a German DJ., Ruth Rockenschaub played the record in her nightly radio show Nachtrock. This was repeated in the evening three days later in that station’s show Soul Train. The local division of Warner, WEA was not amused and sent out a telex to warn them that they would be fined DM12.500 when playing the record again. Other stations in Europe like Veronica’s Countdown Café in the Netherlands followed some weeks later. Before the official release in 1994 copies could fetch crazy prices from $5.000 up to an alleged DM22.000/$12.000 at a shop in Hamburg, Germany, in the beginning of the 90’s. I also remember mention of the acetates being sold at one point (maybe it was the Hamburg sale or an unconnected US sale). Any verifiable information on that would be welcome. There was much speculation about the reason of cancellation. It was thought that Warner didn’t like the album for it’s tone and content. There was also the consensus that Warner objected to the fact that so much Prince music was made available to the public in so few years. They didn’t have enough time to stretch out the release of an album and cash-in accordingly. It was all different though. Prince had pulled the plug himself. In April 1988 that fact became evident for the general public. Aware of all bootlegging he asked the fans, in the video for "Alphabet St.", not to buy The Black Album. Unfortunately it was done through a very hidden message, in a held up walking cane in a split second of the clip, so many missed it. The message being "Please don't buy The Black Album. I'm sorry.". He also tried to make a point during the LoveSexy Tour. Some of the unreleased songs where played live in the ‘Lust’ section of the show. The songs were Dead On It, Bob George & Superfunkycalifragisexy. Through the LoveSexy tour programme a definitive explanation was printed. Of course in a princely fashion, it told the story of Camille. This part explains a bit the reason behind the album. “Camille set out to silence his critics. No longer daring - his enemies laughed. No longer glam, his funk is half-assed... “ Further on down in this story you can find the reason and timestamp for its decision to cancel. “Tuesday came. Blue Tuesday. His canvas full, and lying on the table, Camille mustered all the hate that he was able. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his game. Hate 4 the ones who ever doubted his name. Tis nobody funkier -- let the Black Album fly. Spooky Electric was talking, Camille started 2 cry. Tricked. A fool he had been. In the lowest utmostest. He had allowed the dark side of him 2 create something evil. 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton. Camille and his ego. Bob George. Why? Spooky Electric must die.” It is notable that he actually sacrificed the character of Camille to tell this story and not himself as being Prince. Most songs on the Black Album didn’t relate to Camille at all. The songs for the also unreleased Camille album were different songs from the same recording sessions. This part has been confirmed by several people surrounding Prince but he only hinted at it so parts can be or just are speculative. Some years later stories started to emerge about Tuesday December 1st, 1987 and the preceding evening when Prince went to the club Rupert’s. He asked the DJ to play the new album and observed the responses of the people in the club. That night he met Ingrid Chavez. She is a poet, singer, songwriter and nowadays wife of singer David Sylvian. The two went to Paisley Park and had an intense conversation. Apparently Prince already had some doubts about releasing the album. Somewhere that night he decided against it’s release. The decision appeared to be made after experiencing some heavy hallucinations when using the drug Ecstasy. In what he has called a vision the letter G O D were hovering over a field. It made him realise that it was his responsibility not to release this dark and negative album to kids. He also didn’t want this album to be his legacy in case he died after the release. 1991 - This chair goes round and round In the next years there where often plans to release The Black Album. In 1991 it was suggested to be released as extra disc together with a greatest hits compilation as a means to compensate for badly selling Graffiti Bridge album. The idea was to sell older songs instead of over saturation of the market. Maybe that was the reason to abandon this altogether and shelve the record again. 1994 - Manage rock stars November 22, 1994, The Black Album is officially released to the world but for a limited time. For many people it’s release came out of the blue. No one knew that a month before, on 25th of October, Warner was negotiating a $4 million deal with Prince about the release of three albums. Which were The Black Album, The Gold Experience and a soundtrack for a yet to be determined Warner Brothers film. The deal fell through but the release of The Black Album was saved by a $1 million check that went into Prince’s direction. At it’s release Prince stated that he spiritually was against the album. Some fans were pleased that the album was released but also didn’t understand the contradiction between his spiritual remark and the fact of the fat cheque. They felt that Prince could have blocked the release if he really wanted to. It became very clear that Prince’s wanted to get rid of the Warner’s contract that held him back. With this release he fulfilled one album of the four that he still had to release. The promotion around the release was very low key. At the release date people at Warner’s dimmed the light for 15 minutes and were dressed in black. There also was a tongue-in-cheek promotion going on which stated that the first 1.000 fans who brought in their bootleg copy would receive a real copy in exchange. No singles were released. Only a promotional video was made of ‘When 2 R In Love’ which was all black and showed only the lyrics of the song. Sales were much less than expected and the album dwindled fast out charts. It was to late. In 1987 it was raw, provocative and daring but seven years later looked tame and pale against the aggressive tone of the music of that day. It was just overtaken by gangsta-rap, grunge and hardcore punk. At this moment the album is out of print. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Underrated gem, in my top 3 albums of his, and its highly addictive, especially Dead On It which ironically is about drug addiction.
A great album, the reason it wasn't released at the time was because Prince felt it was too dark and bad and so recorded Lovesexy as a form of atonement and released that instead. I guess later he felt it was OK to release it maybe as it wasn't reflecting his feelings at the time (1994). Also he needed albums to release to get out of his WB contract. There was also big fan demand for it as the cancellation of the release in 87 caused a lot of interest. Despite its dark subject matter, the funky beats, fast tempo and humour make it for me quite uplifting and great to play loud. [Edited 5/20/09 2:07am] | |
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A true classic!!! www.arjunmusic.com
www.myspace.com/arjunmusic www.cdbaby.com/arjuntunes ARJUN: funk-indie-rock-jazz-groove trio just released their debut album entitled, "Pieces" Instrumental heavy grooves and improvisation. | |
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www.arjunmusic.com
www.myspace.com/arjunmusic www.cdbaby.com/arjuntunes ARJUN: funk-indie-rock-jazz-groove trio just released their debut album entitled, "Pieces" Instrumental heavy grooves and improvisation. | |
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loved it then, love it now The Compromise Theory:
Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC North Tower with explosives. The South Tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot was brought down by actual terrorists. Is it a deal? | |
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pepper7 said: Why didn't he release it?
Do you just play CD's or do you also read stuff? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nce_album) Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Is there another artist alive today capable of producing a song like When 2 R In Love, and follow it with Bob George?
I don't think so. Love it | |
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cool thanks for the link squirrelgrease You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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udo said: pepper7 said: Why didn't he release it?
Do you just play CD's or do you also read stuff? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nce_album) Yeah, but do you believe that cr*p?? I mean that can't actually be the reason he didn't release it!!? God, he had a song about shagging his sister! Shut up already, damn. | |
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pepper7 said: udo said: Yeah, but do you believe that cr*p?? I mean that can't actually be the reason he didn't release it!!? God, he had a song about shagging his sister! Yes, so? Now he's a Jehovah's Witness can you believe that cr*p? People change, so does he. I cna understand he had an experience and someone there to tell him about it. Just like Larry getting him into the Jehovah circumstances. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Black Album is good but the CAMILLE Album is way funkier and raw than the Black Album could ever be.
Camille album destroys the Black album hands down! And That Says What?! __________________________________________________
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joyinrepetition said: Black Album is good but the CAMILLE Album is way funkier and raw than the Black Album could ever be.
Camille album destroys the Black album hands down! And That Says What?! that says that this is just YOUR opinion. The Black Album ROCKS!!!!! | |
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kenlacam said: joyinrepetition said: Black Album is good but the CAMILLE Album is way funkier and raw than the Black Album could ever be.
Camille album destroys the Black album hands down! And That Says What?! that says that this is just YOUR opinion. The Black Album ROCKS!!!!! Yeah but you know its better! Denial is a bad thing. [Edited 5/20/09 9:03am] __________________________________________________
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I wish I could have been there to see him buggin out on the pill. nice guy. | |
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Can't add anything that hasn't already been said. My username comes from this album, so that's my testament to the Funk Bible.
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A classic album .. I have one of the very rare germany lp's from 87 ... It has been verified and I have shown the pic on housequake and this site as well .. I won it off of ebay in 2003 for 700.00 I will hold on to this album forever .. | |
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Very good album.
These songs below are classics! Le Grind Cindy C. Dead On It When 2 R In Love Bob George 2 Nigs is also a heck of a jam. The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! | |
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TheFreakerFantastic said: Underrated gem, in my top 3 albums of his, and its highly addictive, especially Dead On It which ironically is about drug addiction.
[Edited 5/20/09 2:07am] Is it? I thought it was about whack rappers and how Prince can do it better than all y'all! Much like No More Candy 4 u! Take it - like Clarence said:
"I got a million of them - all different U know." | |
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This is classic Prince at his best! His funkiest album probably. It's the bomb... RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... | |
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Hatman said: TheFreakerFantastic said: Underrated gem, in my top 3 albums of his, and its highly addictive, especially Dead On It which ironically is about drug addiction.
[Edited 5/20/09 2:07am] Is it? I thought it was about whack rappers and how Prince can do it better than all y'all! Much like No More Candy 4 u! I think its about both. Being dead on 'IT' usually means being addicted to cocaine as I understand. It was a criticism of the rappers of the day yes. But the album seems to be one big drug as its so addictive! | |
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NouveauDance said: Can't add anything that hasn't already been said. My username comes from this album, so that's my testament to the Funk Bible.
People get ready, nouveau dance here To Sir, with Love | |
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