he doesn't play that well thats why they keep the sound down don't you think?

he uses a lot of effects to cover up all the wrong notes
[This message was edited Wed Dec 11 22:22:16 PST 2002 by thechronic]

NAH, PRINCE JUST WANTS 2 GET THE PARTY ON!
TURN UP THE GUITAR AND HEAR AN EXPLOSION OF CHORDS IN YO' EAR!

(CUE SOLO IN "SHE'S ALWAYS IN MY HAIR"!)

now that's what i'm talkin' 'bout*

TheJoker said:

he can't play i wore his ass out at the soundcheck

M,HMM...

TheJoker said:

i wore his ass out on Bambi...just ask him...he know

thechronic said:

Okay, firstly I will ignore that first thing you said seeing as Prince is without a doubt the most talented, innovative guitarist to come along since Hendrix, Zappa and Wes Montgomery.

Secondly, my opinion is that he has kept his guitar low in the mix so as to make it another tone colour equal in importance to the rest of the music. What I mean by that is that too many rock guitarists put the distortion on and assume it should be louder than everything else...you know, JUST because it's the guitar solo it has to take the attention away from everything else. I think Prince's approach, as always, is very musical and makes you yearn for the sound of his guitar by burying it in the mix a little.

mrdespues said:

so how do u explain me waxing his ass at the soundcheck?

In All Your Dreams Chronic, that's how.
[This message was edited Wed Dec 11 22:51:23 PST 2002 by TongueBox]

TongueBox said:

i did wax him..ask him about it

thechronic said:

Waxing his ass? Because it turns you on to wax a man's ass?

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Each to their own.

mrdespues said:

IT'S A black musicians saying...u wouldn't understand

mrdespues said:

thechronic said:

No, I do understand. I understand that you're a misogynistic idiot (re: your post in the general discussion about women needing to recieve less pay) who's just trying to attract attention.

mrdespues said:

i don't need attention...I am genius without it...u on the other hand need to go to michigan bad!

Cause he's deaf as a post. That's why.

He just likes to say this 'cause he thinks it sounds cool. If he wanted the guitar signal louder he could just signal a tech or step on one of his zillion stomp boxes and footswitches.
Yeah he does use many effects at times. I think there's periods he practices more (like the ONA tour), then he often plays his tele and uses fewer effects. When he's in less good shape (Rave DVD) he uses many effects and his more comfortable custom guitars with lighter strings, higher gain pickups and shorter scale necks. As to people "waxing his ass", the reason I admire his playing is musicality and soul, not pyrotechnics. I.E. the guy's a great player BECAUSE he doesn't care about waxing someone's ass".

just my 2cts

Ah yeah I remember you now...You're the guy who could only play three chords at the soundcheck and was completely humiliated by Prince and the audience.

Man you were ridiculous on that stage.

Pfff...If the Cross is too hard to play for you man give up the guitar.

hectim said:

Funny, I think he does care a lot and when he does he's at his best.

One look at Chronic's profile shows you don't need to take this guy seriously - jeez!

The 'gee-tar' is actually a sort of heating device. So when he says 'turn the gee-tar up' he is complaining its cold, and wants some heat in the joint!

Mindflux said:

this guy is hilarious!!! Yo Chronic, got some or should I wax yo ass, beeyatch?

thechronic said:

Here's the profile:
Name: the chronic
Location: golden triangle, tx
E-mail: (Not disclosed, but click here to mail through prince.org!)
Gender: Male
Fan level: Hardcore
Hobbies: guitar,keyboards,fishing,tap dancing,and women
Age: 30
Favorite albums: all richard pryor and prince and stevie nicks and elton john
Favorite songs: wasted kisses, irresistible bitch,bacon skin,and billy jack bitch!
Favorite (other)
artists: the artist,eminem,jesse johnson,

Let's see... texas...tap dancing... elton john *barf*
eminem *hurl*

Sure man, the world is waiting 4 U (NOT !!) Sterïod d*ck !

and don't forget those ass-waxing pictures!

THIS GUY IS WHAT WE CALL HERE IN DC - A BAMA!!

HE IS SO STUPID IT'S COMICAL!!

WHAT THE HELL DID MICHIGAN TEACH HIM?!! I GUESS HOW TO POSE FOR A PICTURE LOOKING LIKE A DAMN FOOL.

abierman said:

CRACK IS WACK DUDE, STOP TAKING YOURSELF SOOO SERIOUSLY!!!

hectim said:

Hectim, I know nothing about guitar playing (aside from what sounds great), but it seems you do. So I'll ask...

How often does Prince make mistakes in playing? I never really considered it, but I'd imagine its fairly common even for the best player.

Mindflux said:

Chronic you need some special attention? Go and ask yo mummy!

Lammastide - no, mistakes with the best are not that common. The guitarist in my band plays the most complex riffs and almost always note-perfect. There are many other gifted musicians who are the same - Prince is one of them. Dave Gilmour is a guitarist famous for note-perfect performances.

In all the performances I have ever seen/heard, I have only ever noticed maybe 2 or 3 "mistakes" by Prince (one of those being on the Beautiful Experience video at the end of "Shhh" where Prince is on his knees with his guitar - he "peaks" it, which means he does not strike the string cleanly and you get a less than favourable sound! Someone with his expertise, however, manages to cover it extremely well!).

Another favourite Prince mistake (tho, this is a near-miss, rather than a mistake) is on the Lovesexy video. When Miko is playing the guitar solo in "I Wish U Heaven", Prince leans forward to sing in to the mike a bar early, but he notices (as Miko, of course, is still playing), pulls back, smiles at Miko and then sings. Just listening you would never notice, but it's cool to see Prince being human!

Yeah, many great players take great risks and every now and then end up playing something horrible. Check my hero Mick Ronson on Bowie's live White Light/White Heat! However, I don't remember ever hearing Prince make any real mistakes or playing 'bum notes'. There are times when his playing can be a little sloppy, which means he doesn't 'articulate' his notes very well when playing fast. His timing however is always impeccable! Other guitarists, do you agree?

hectim


Hectim, I know nothing about guitar playing (aside from what sounds great), but it seems you do. So I'll ask...

How often does Prince make mistakes in playing? I never really considered it, but I'd imagine its fairly common even for the best player.[/quote]

Interesting you should say that. I must agree he likes to show off a little. Bit I've never seen or heard a performance where he tried to aggressively 'out-play' other (guest) musicians.

joeycoco said:

VINCENT said:

no i played bambi idiot and wore his ass out fool...