amorbella said: TRC and Lotus can't be compared...
To very different eras, styles.... Whyever not? Surely, if they were'nt different there would be no point in comparing them. | |
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Graycap23 said: stanleylieber said: But they were recorded in different years by different players. Oh for crying out loud. SHUT UP with your "I'm on the inside" bullshit and FUCK OFF. I'm personally one of many people who are TIRED of you. | |
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Jakeasaurus said: Graycap23 said: Oh for crying out loud. SHUT UP with your "I'm on the inside" bullshit and FUCK OFF. I'm personally one of many people who are TIRED of you. Ohhh larwd..... | |
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Well i just heart it 1st on my stereo instead off my i pod .And had the same feeling about those songs.The music sounds like trc.Trc is one off my favorit P albums. | |
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Jakeasaurus said: Graycap23 said: Oh for crying out loud. SHUT UP with your "I'm on the inside" bullshit and FUCK OFF. I'm personally one of many people who are TIRED of you. Dude. Decaf. Seriously. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Well, basically any song from any Prince album since TRC (not counting in ONA and the live stuff) would have sort of fitted on any of the other albums, if we're honest about it...
Most songs on TRC and Lotusflow3r aren't even that abstract, it's just that there are more segues / intros / outros on them that make it seem like they were more freeform than what they actually are. Well, just my view on it really - yours may differ. | |
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I'll take my words back. I just remembered the existence of MPLSound
Noy "any song from any Prince album" but yeah, a good number of them nevertheless.. | |
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Graycap23 said: ZiggmanZoo said: I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.
From the Lotus Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!) Love like Jazz Back to the Lotus. One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category. What do you think? From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release. Not true... they're 2 completely different tracks, recorded at different times with different backing bands. | |
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None would have fit on RBC. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Graycap23 said: From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release. Not true... they're 2 completely different tracks, recorded at different times with different backing bands. I hear u guys.....my ears say different. | |
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Graycap23 said: From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.
You're pulling that out of your back side. That's not even close to the truth. Funny though. | |
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ernestsewell said: Graycap23 said: From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.
You're pulling that out of your back side. That's not even close to the truth. Funny though. I should have included an "It seems 2 me" with that quote. I have the actual mix, and while I hear what u guys are saying, it sounds like the same song 2 me. | |
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Graycap23 said: ernestsewell said: You're pulling that out of your back side. That's not even close to the truth. Funny though. I should have included an "It seems 2 me" with that quote. I have the actual mix, and while I hear what u guys are saying, it sounds like the same song 2 me. Assuming you actually possess this heretofore unknown recording, it's certainly possible Prince could have lifted bits of melody from it for the new songs. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: Assuming you actually possess this heretofore unknown recording, it's certainly possible Prince could have lifted bits of melody from it for the new songs.
But he didn't. | |
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stanleylieber said: Graycap23 said: I should have included an "It seems 2 me" with that quote. I have the actual mix, and while I hear what u guys are saying, it sounds like the same song 2 me. Assuming you actually possess this heretofore unknown recording, it's certainly possible Prince could have lifted bits of melody from it for the new songs. When u hear it it as one song.....I'd say there is a great possibility of that. | |
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ernestsewell said: stanleylieber said: Assuming you actually possess this heretofore unknown recording, it's certainly possible Prince could have lifted bits of melody from it for the new songs.
But he didn't. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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Y'know...I listened to The Rainbow Children (the song) for the first time about a week ago and thought (right around 8:10), "Geez...this sounds a lot like From the Lotus." We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: Y'know...I listened to The Rainbow Children (the song) for the first time about a week ago and thought (right around 8:10), "Geez...this sounds a lot like From the Lotus."
The organ sounds the same; both the instrument setting itself and where it sits in the mix. I think he's playing a different guitar though. I agree the music itself sounds a lot like the TRC era material. We should consider that even if it's not a literal edit from the original 'The Rainbow Children' song, it could share some instrument tracks in common and could have been worked on, had new tracks added to it, later. Or, Prince could have just borrowed lines of melody from it. Or, it could be literally just an edit from the end of the original song. Or, Graycap23 could be delusional. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: Genesia said: Y'know...I listened to The Rainbow Children (the song) for the first time about a week ago and thought (right around 8:10), "Geez...this sounds a lot like From the Lotus."
The organ sounds the same; both the instrument setting itself and where it sits in the mix. I think he's playing a different guitar though. I agree the music itself sounds a lot like the TRC era material. We should consider that even if it's not a literal edit from the original 'The Rainbow Children' song, it could share some instrument tracks in common and could have been worked on, had new tracks added to it, later. Or, Prince could have just borrowed lines of melody from it. Or, it could be literally just an edit from the end of the original song. Or, Graycap23 could be delusional. lol.....won't be the 1st time I've been accused of that. | |
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Genesia said: Y'know...I listened to The Rainbow Children (the song) for the first time about a week ago and thought (right around 8:10), "Geez...this sounds a lot like From the Lotus."
This discussion reminds me of Beautiful Strange and Joy in Repetition. Those songs are related 2 my ears. | |
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Marco81 said: Graycap23 said: From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release. yeah...just like Planet Earth started with the line "dance the dance electric".....will bullshit ever stop?aaaaahhh Exactly. Pure, unfiltered bullshit from Graycap, as usual. | |
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TwiliteKid said: Marco81 said: yeah...just like Planet Earth started with the line "dance the dance electric".....will bullshit ever stop?aaaaahhh Exactly. Pure, unfiltered bullshit from Graycap, as usual. Be careful, U might hurt my feelings. | |
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Graycap23 said: TwiliteKid said: Exactly. Pure, unfiltered bullshit from Graycap, as usual. Be careful, U might hurt my feelings. Stop posting lies then! That example Marco mentioned, from your claims about Planet Earth prior to its release are a perfect example. | |
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TwiliteKid said: Graycap23 said: Be careful, U might hurt my feelings. Stop posting lies then! That example Marco mentioned, from your claims about Planet Earth prior to its release are a perfect example. Believe me, I was JOKING. U can't possibly hurt my feelings. | |
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Graycap23 said: TwiliteKid said: Stop posting lies then! That example Marco mentioned, from your claims about Planet Earth prior to its release are a perfect example. Believe me, I was JOKING. U can't possibly hurt my feelings. Well, I'm not trying to, so that's good. But seriously: you consistently make these claims, and you've never once proven anything. Does it surprise you that people are calling foul? | |
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TwiliteKid said: Graycap23 said: Believe me, I was JOKING. U can't possibly hurt my feelings. Well, I'm not trying to, so that's good. But seriously: you consistently make these claims, and you've never once proven anything. Does it surprise you that people are calling foul? The above is my opinion. There is no claim. | |
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Graycap23 said: TwiliteKid said: Well, I'm not trying to, so that's good. But seriously: you consistently make these claims, and you've never once proven anything. Does it surprise you that people are calling foul? The above is my opinion. There is no claim. You claim to possess a longer version of the song than anyone has ever known existed. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: Graycap23 said: The above is my opinion. There is no claim. You claim to possess a longer version of the song than anyone has ever known existed. That is not a claim.....that is a fact. [Edited 5/19/09 12:41pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: stanleylieber said: You claim to possess a longer version of the song than anyone has ever known existed. That is not a claim.....that is a fact. [Edited 5/19/09 12:41pm] A factual claim is still a claim. We don't have any evidence. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: Graycap23 said: That is not a claim.....that is a fact. [Edited 5/19/09 12:41pm] A factual claim is still a claim. We don't have any evidence. And never will. TRC and Lotus have nothing in common beyond the performer. | |
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