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Thread started 05/10/09 5:06am

Sophianestesia

Prince & The Revolution's shelved project U'd like to see released

I know we're talking unprobable things here, but we all know that 1984/86 era spawned great music in the Prince Factory. Mostly due to Wendy & Lisa and also the expanded Revolution and while great music was released, other great music was forced not to see the light of day.

So, which projects would U like to see officially released from back then?

THE FLESH (1985/86): live album including extended sessions by Prince and the expanded Revolution

DREAM FACTORY (1986/87): ultimate Prince & The Revolution album, with the last configuration known.

ROADHOUSE GARDEN (1999): the reunion album by Prince & The Revolution, including 2 cd's with unreleased music from 1985/86 era and brand new (?) songs by Prince & The Revolution.
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Reply #1 posted 05/10/09 5:16am

prb

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all of them.

living at the other end of the world- and before the net, i never had the pleasure of hearing any outtakes/unreleased stuff.

i love store bought music- i hate downloads shake but if this stuff became available only thru Lotusflow3r.com, id fork over the $77us joining fee. it would go part of the way for making up 4 the "t-shirts 4 founding members only"

i love the revolution period of P's career. wendy and lisa rock woot!

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seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #2 posted 05/10/09 5:21am

Dayclear

I've got them and like them just the way they are. but maybe for the newbies.
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Reply #3 posted 05/10/09 5:22am

punkofthemonth

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yeah, all of them would kick serious ass, but probably the flesh, the most, cuz it was a pre-cursor to madhouse worship and u gotta shake something is the shit headbang. dream factory is already out there for the most part cool, so roadhouse garden would also be too kewl cool. never gonna happen though, like you said pout giggle
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/09 5:33am

leafar

The rebels.
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Reply #5 posted 05/10/09 5:38am

Sophianestesia

leafar said:

The rebels.


Love that too.
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Reply #6 posted 05/10/09 6:09am

IstenSzek

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Sophianestesia said:


ROADHOUSE GARDEN (1999): the reunion album by Prince & The Revolution, including 2 cd's with unreleased music from 1985/86 era and brand new (?) songs by Prince & The Revolution.


where did you get this info? as far as i can tell the only thing prince
intended to release was "roadhouse garden" as a single disc of outtakes
combined to form a 'new' album of old material.

wendy and lisa were contacted to help finish some of the tracks and/or
tinker with them a bit iirc. the project died a rather quick death and
after a while prince's response to the question of why the album hadn't
been released was that wendy and lisa were "non responsive individuals".

there was never any talk of a revolution reunion, certainly not from
prince's camp.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #7 posted 05/10/09 6:58am

Genesia

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I think I have pretty much all of it. shrug
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #8 posted 05/10/09 11:38am

ernestsewell

IstenSzek said:

where did you get this info? as far as i can tell the only thing prince intended to release was "roadhouse garden" as a single disc of outtakes combined to form a 'new' album of old material.


NEVER heard that being what Roadhouse Garden was going to be. It was a total Revolution album of an old album, to be updated and tweaked by W&L.

wendy and lisa were contacted to help finish some of the tracks and/or
tinker with them a bit iirc. the project died a rather quick death and
after a while prince's response to the question of why the album hadn't
been released was that wendy and lisa were "non responsive individuals".


The album died because Prince asked W&L to work on the album and finish it. As a courtesy when you ask someone to come out and work on something, you pay for their hotel and food while there. Prince refused ANY sort of compensation for the girls, at all, whether it was a hotel, covering expenses like meals, or anything else. W&L ain't suckers, and they aren't going to work for free (who would?) That's why Prince dissed them as being "non responsive" and told Kurt Loder to "ask Wendy and Lisa"; a statement he also put on the L40A site back in the day.
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Reply #9 posted 05/10/09 1:30pm

Smillan

Sophianestesia said:

I know we're talking unprobable things here, but we all know that 1984/86 era spawned great music in the Prince Factory. Mostly due to Wendy & Lisa and also the expanded Revolution and while great music was released, other great music was forced not to see the light of day.

So, which projects would U like to see officially released from back then?

THE FLESH (1985/86): live album including extended sessions by Prince and the expanded Revolution

DREAM FACTORY (1986/87): ultimate Prince & The Revolution album, with the last configuration known.

ROADHOUSE GARDEN (1999): the reunion album by Prince & The Revolution, including 2 cd's with unreleased music from 1985/86 era and brand new (?) songs by Prince & The Revolution.


hey, exactly what songs where on the Flesh live album. The only one I know if U gotta shake something. Thanks
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Reply #10 posted 05/10/09 4:34pm

eaglebear4839

I think Roadhouse Garden will see the light of day sometime before he retires.
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Reply #11 posted 05/10/09 5:46pm

bluefish

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Of the 3, I'd say Roadhouse Garden is the #1 "want" in my book.
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Reply #12 posted 05/10/09 5:53pm

ernestsewell

I just want a disk of true Revolution outtakes, like the real "Computer Blue". "Wednesday" from Purple Rain. The other version of "Strange Relationship", plus stuff like "All My Dreams", "Others Here With Us", "Big Tall Wall", "A Place In Heaven", "In A Large Room With No Light", "Old Friends 4 Sale" (not that sanitized version on The Vault), etc etc etc.
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/09 12:11am

BorisFishpaw

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Well, for starters, a lot of the info here is incorrect...

1. "The Flesh" wasn't a live album, it was an instrumental jazz-fusion album and
a kind of pre-cursor to Madhouse. The album was assembled on 22nd January
1986, and the intended tracklisting is well known... Side 1: Junk Music.
Side 2: Up From Below / Y'all Want Some More / A Couple of Miles.

2. "Dream Factory" was shelved before it was finished. In fact the last version
assembled before this happened had already started to move away from the
original intention of the album, which was for it to be very much a 'band' album.
So it's not a very good indicator of what the album would have looked like had
it been released.

3. "Roadhouse Garden" was never mentioned as being a 2CD set as far as I'm
aware. Prince always just referred to it as 'an album', which, if anything, implies
that it was going to be a single album. IstenSzek's and ernestsewell's responses
have pretty much covered what actually happened with this project.
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/09 3:01am

TheFreakerFant
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All of them!
His best moments!

Roadhouse Garden would have had: Go, Splash, Our Destiny and the title track at least.
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/09 3:09am

rudeboynpg

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BorisFishpaw said:

Well, for starters, a lot of the info here is incorrect...

1. "The Flesh" wasn't a live album, it was an instrumental jazz-fusion album and
a kind of pre-cursor to Madhouse. The album was assembled on 22nd January
1986, and the intended tracklisting is well known... Side 1: Junk Music.
Side 2: Up From Below / Y'all Want Some More / A Couple of Miles.


That's right.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/09 4:07am

OperatingTheta
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'Roadhouse Garden'

Then some sort of compilation set featuring songs from 'Flesh' and 'Dream Factory' and other sessions.
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/09 5:18am

Sophianestesia

That's right, I put down things in the wrong way, but Mr. Fishpaw fixed it.
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/09 6:45am

Tame

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This is only a suggestion...I always thought it would be cool to do another "Purple Rain," video...where the band and fans were gathered around cars at the drive in...all wearing "Yellow."

The Screen would be playing the end of "Purple Rain," and then everyone could sing without music...at the end of the video it could Rain....Purple. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #19 posted 05/12/09 3:10am

Sophianestesia

rudeboynpg said:

BorisFishpaw said:

Well, for starters, a lot of the info here is incorrect...

1. "The Flesh" wasn't a live album, it was an instrumental jazz-fusion album and
a kind of pre-cursor to Madhouse. The album was assembled on 22nd January
1986, and the intended tracklisting is well known... Side 1: Junk Music.
Side 2: Up From Below / Y'all Want Some More / A Couple of Miles.


That's right.


I knew all of that, by the way.
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Reply #20 posted 05/12/09 3:20am

Sophianestesia

Genesia said:

I think I have pretty much all of it. shrug


U mean U do have all The Flesh trax? That's impossible, they never leaked. Only U Gotta Shake Something did leak.
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Reply #21 posted 05/19/09 4:12am

MartyMcFly

Tame said:

This is only a suggestion...I always thought it would be cool to do another "Purple Rain," video...where the band and fans were gathered around cars at the drive in...all wearing "Yellow."

The Screen would be playing the end of "Purple Rain," and then everyone could sing without music...at the end of the video it could Rain....Purple. cool


nuts
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Reply #22 posted 05/19/09 4:20am

iloveannie

As he has no dependants what happens to the Vault? I guess like Hendrix's estate it will be family managed? Unless the Vault (like the cake) is a lie.
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Reply #23 posted 05/19/09 4:22am

NouveauDance

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eaglebear4839 said:

I think Roadhouse Garden will see the light of day sometime before he retires.

I'd rather it didn't tbh. If it was a last, final, end of sale resort for getting these tracks in perfect quality, then fine, but a single CD of tinkered-with tracks isn't my idea of the perfect way to get this stuff.

I know realistically not EVERYTHING can be released, but Prince's back catalogue deserves the proper treatment of remasters, with bonus tracks, b-sides, extended versions, alt. versions and relevant out-takes, with proper liner notes. AND on top of that at least one box set of 4/5 CDs crammed full of out-takes and unreleased alt. versions. It still probably wouldn't equal what's already out there, so I don't think that's too much to ask.
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Reply #24 posted 05/19/09 6:30am

Poplife88

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Tame said:

This is only a suggestion...I always thought it would be cool to do another "Purple Rain," video...where the band and fans were gathered around cars at the drive in...all wearing "Yellow."

The Screen would be playing the end of "Purple Rain," and then everyone could sing without music...at the end of the video it could Rain....Purple. cool


wtf?? confuse
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Reply #25 posted 05/19/09 7:34am

Graycap23

The DAWN
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Reply #26 posted 05/21/09 12:26am

dysfunk

Must have been crazy, but I recently discovered the song Roadhouse Garden....why this wasn't released is beyond me, but it's a damn good song!
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