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Reply #30 posted 05/08/09 9:31am

Anxiety

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Anxiety said:

i think the web site should have offered a take-away product that amounted to more than just one exclusive song, as opposed to the 11.99 product people could buy at target. in other words, maybe a 4th disc, even if it was an e.p., with either more exclusive songs, or remixes, or vault tracks, or SOMEthing that people could burn to a CD or load on their iPods.

i mean, we don't even have an option to look at the lyrics unless we have the site pulled up. can we haz liner notes PDF plz??? sad

but to answer the original question: how should prince sell his records?

well, i think the way he sold his latest one, via target, was pretty slick. i am not in the least bit mad at him about how he handled that. good show. clapping

the web site, however, i'm inclined to think is a big FAIL. how could it have worked? well, i offered one idea above. and if that's unrealistic, then i'd say the price could have been brought down significantly. they could have made a year's membership $31.21 and still made a tidy profit. give away the t-shirts for free the first week, then offer them at an additional price after that, along with other lotusflow3r swag. fans love swag.

i think for the general public that probably doesn't give a damn about prince's web site but would probably plunk down 12 bucks for three CDs of his new music, the way he's selling his new album is kinda phenomenal. and i'd be inclined to agree with them.

i think for the diehard fans who have been waiting for an official fan site presence for a few years now, to pay $77 for a rarely-updated site with precious little exclusive content and one song's worth of exclusive downloadable music could be considered a frustration at best. and i'd be inclined to agree with that too.

shrug


I disagree with this. This almost twists the arm of folks who are "diehards" to purchase from the website, rather than getting it at Target. One exclusive song if fine, but a whole disk? That would kind of suck for those who didn't want to join the website for whatever the reason. Sure you don't have to have it but most would want it. I think adding a 4th disk to the web-set would have just added to the theme of him "forcing fans to join the web-site.


why not offer a little extra incentive to the diehards, rather than just an album download of something we're going to buy at target anyway? he knows his fans well enough to know that we're going to want the physical version as well as what would be on the official site. it would have been cool to have a remixed/re-edited version on the site, so there'd be two different versions of the music to plow through. SOMEthing that would give the site something unique to offer. right now, there's next to nothing.
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Reply #31 posted 05/08/09 3:13pm

Tremolina

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Sign back up with WB and let them do it.

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What have they done in this field other than trying to shut everything down too?
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Reply #32 posted 05/08/09 3:13pm

Tremolina

Anxiety said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



I disagree with this. This almost twists the arm of folks who are "diehards" to purchase from the website, rather than getting it at Target. One exclusive song if fine, but a whole disk? That would kind of suck for those who didn't want to join the website for whatever the reason. Sure you don't have to have it but most would want it. I think adding a 4th disk to the web-set would have just added to the theme of him "forcing fans to join the web-site.


why not offer a little extra incentive to the diehards, rather than just an album download of something we're going to buy at target anyway? he knows his fans well enough to know that we're going to want the physical version as well as what would be on the official site. it would have been cool to have a remixed/re-edited version on the site, so there'd be two different versions of the music to plow through. SOMEthing that would give the site something unique to offer. right now, there's next to nothing.


I think a bootleg section would make everything just fine.
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Reply #33 posted 05/08/09 3:15pm

xlr8r

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Tremolina said:

xlr8r said:

Sign back up with WB and let them do it.

shake

What have they done in this field other than trying to shut everything down too?



I meant from a major label backing perpsective with proper promotion, handling, AND editing and go back to the drawing board advice. An if it was WB, that means they work together again, doing it right again.
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Reply #34 posted 05/08/09 3:57pm

Anxiety

Tremolina said:

Anxiety said:



why not offer a little extra incentive to the diehards, rather than just an album download of something we're going to buy at target anyway? he knows his fans well enough to know that we're going to want the physical version as well as what would be on the official site. it would have been cool to have a remixed/re-edited version on the site, so there'd be two different versions of the music to plow through. SOMEthing that would give the site something unique to offer. right now, there's next to nothing.


I think a bootleg section would make everything just fine.


it'd be dreamy, but it's less than probable considering who we're talking about here.
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Reply #35 posted 05/08/09 4:32pm

Nothinbutjoy

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IMHO, it wouldn't hurt to have a less graphic website.

I know Prince likes to create his own worlds and push things graphicly (is that a word?), but not everyone gives a hoot about that.

Give an option to step out of the looking glass to get the goods. It just might make it a little easier to make goods available.

Updating the site, I don't know, weekly, would at least make it seem more relevant.
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #36 posted 05/08/09 4:51pm

Tremolina

xlr8r said:

Tremolina said:


shake

What have they done in this field other than trying to shut everything down too?



I meant from a major label backing perpsective with proper promotion, handling, AND editing and go back to the drawing board advice. An if it was WB, that means they work together again, doing it right again.

I have no illusions about that. Those days are over. Besides WB is out of touch with what the public wants. But maybe some help from a bigger company in organising stuff could help.
[Edited 5/8/09 17:31pm]
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Reply #37 posted 05/08/09 4:53pm

Tremolina

Anxiety said:

Tremolina said:



I think a bootleg section would make everything just fine.


it'd be dreamy, but it's less than probable considering who we're talking about here.

Yeah dreamy, but considering who we are talking about here is known to change his mind a lot and might be interested in the money there could be involved, it's not improbable either.
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Reply #38 posted 05/08/09 4:55pm

Tremolina

Nothinbutjoy said:

IMHO, it wouldn't hurt to have a less graphic website.

I know Prince likes to create his own worlds and push things graphicly (is that a word?), but not everyone gives a hoot about that.

Give an option to step out of the looking glass to get the goods. It just might make it a little easier to make goods available.

Updating the site, I don't know, weekly, would at least make it seem more relevant.

Would you wanna see and pay for downloads and printed CD's of all his work plus unreleased material?
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Reply #39 posted 05/08/09 4:59pm

Anxiety

Tremolina said:

Anxiety said:



it'd be dreamy, but it's less than probable considering who we're talking about here.

Yeah dreamy, but considering who we are talking about here is known to change his mind a lot and might be interested in the money there could be involved, it's not improbable either.


you're right. i mean, he did do something similar to this a mere 12 years ago. lol
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Reply #40 posted 05/08/09 5:16pm

EmeraldSkies

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I think he should let me sell them for him. lol
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #41 posted 05/08/09 5:22pm

Anxiety

i went to a show recently where they were selling CD singles for a dollar a pop from a modified gumball machine at the merch table.

i'm just sayin'. biggrin
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Reply #42 posted 05/08/09 5:30pm

Tremolina

Anxiety said:

Tremolina said:


Yeah dreamy, but considering who we are talking about here is known to change his mind a lot and might be interested in the money there could be involved, it's not improbable either.


you're right. i mean, he did do something similar to this a mere 12 years ago. lol


You are kidding me. That must have totally slipped my memory then! smile
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Reply #43 posted 05/08/09 5:30pm

Tremolina

EmeraldSkies said:

I think he should let me sell them for him. lol

So how would you go about then?
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Reply #44 posted 05/08/09 5:32pm

Tremolina

Anxiety said:

i went to a show recently where they were selling CD singles for a dollar a pop from a modified gumball machine at the merch table.

i'm just sayin'. biggrin

falloff

That some tough shit to chew on.
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Reply #45 posted 05/08/09 5:37pm

Anxiety

Tremolina said:

Anxiety said:

i went to a show recently where they were selling CD singles for a dollar a pop from a modified gumball machine at the merch table.

i'm just sayin'. biggrin

falloff

That some tough shit to chew on.


but it was a cute idea! it'd be something to do with all those old "supercute" cd singles gathering dust at paisley! biggrin
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Reply #46 posted 05/08/09 5:47pm

Tremolina

Anxiety said:

Tremolina said:


falloff

That some tough shit to chew on.


but it was a cute idea! it'd be something to do with all those old "supercute" cd singles gathering dust at paisley! biggrin
drool
Oh man, I would definitly chew on a crystal clear version on CD of that song.
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Reply #47 posted 05/08/09 7:12pm

Tame

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I could always come up with a "Prince Cereal," and throw a cd in there...Ten bux for Purple Crunch. cool
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Reply #48 posted 05/08/09 8:56pm

Close2u

prince could count on me to sell them undercover from my trenchcoat, like inspector gadget
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Reply #49 posted 05/08/09 10:05pm

stanleylieber

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Close2u said:

prince could count on me to sell them undercover from my trenchcoat, like inspector gadget


what else you got under there
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #50 posted 05/09/09 4:24am

Sophianestesia

Tremolina said:

Sophianestesia said:



That would be solution #1 for every record to come.


Would you also like a website with downloads and CD's of his work since Emancipation as well as unreleased material?


Work since Emancipation, I already have those records, but as Anx says and I do agree with him, that'd be good for younger fans.

As for unreleased material, I'm all for it, as long as it is not heavily edited (I mean lyrically).
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Reply #51 posted 05/09/09 4:26am

Sophianestesia

Tremolina said:

Sophianestesia said:

The Musicology store was the top of the releasing of Prince's music..



What did the Musicology store have to offer?


New albums downloads, for instance? And also unreleased singles.
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Reply #52 posted 05/09/09 11:25am

EmeraldSkies

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Tremolina said:

EmeraldSkies said:

I think he should let me sell them for him. lol

So how would you go about then?



I haven't figured that part out yet. lol
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Reply #53 posted 05/09/09 3:06pm

Tremolina

Sophianestesia said:

Tremolina said:



Would you also like a website with downloads and CD's of his work since Emancipation as well as unreleased material?


Work since Emancipation, I already have those records, but as Anx says and I do agree with him, that'd be good for younger fans.

As for unreleased material, I'm all for it, as long as it is not heavily edited (I mean lyrically).

I agree.

And I think he could pretty easily arrange this.
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Reply #54 posted 05/09/09 3:07pm

Tremolina

EmeraldSkies said:

Tremolina said:


So how would you go about then?



I haven't figured that part out yet. lol

lol
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Reply #55 posted 05/09/09 6:33pm

NONSENSE

the website could have been set up where anyone could pay $11.99 to download the CD, watch older videos, see photos etc. There could have also been a $77 subscription area for lotusflow3r CD, free tshirt, new videos from bria, chocolate box,crimson & clover, concert tickets, live videos, etc.
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Reply #56 posted 05/09/09 7:03pm

NONSENSE

I think using social networks for promotion would be helpful... facebook, myspace, twitter, etc. These tools are becoming more important promotional vehicles. I didn't quite understand why Prince performed on American Idol years ago but I now I get it. Social networks, American Idol, etc are the MTV of today's generation. Prince pobably doesn't like these avenues but they seem to be becoming increasingly popular with today's youth and the tech savvy.
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Reply #57 posted 05/10/09 8:52am

Close2u

stanleylieber said:

Close2u said:

prince could count on me to sell them undercover from my trenchcoat, like inspector gadget


what else you got under there


A red lingerie, garter set and a bow tie to match,
6 in high fuck me pumps and an irresistible batch
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Reply #58 posted 05/10/09 10:00am

Erika2k8

using youtube to show his vids
geting a myspace (not a big deal but could help)
getting back with a major label OR HAVING his own record company ONLY this time having people who actually know what theyre doing to run. This is PRINCE so i know record companies will bend over backwards for him
I want him so bad to collaborate with Babyface or Dallas Austin and write songs for himself as well as other artists
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Reply #59 posted 05/10/09 12:27pm

Ifsixwuz9

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Anxiety said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



I disagree with this. This almost twists the arm of folks who are "diehards" to purchase from the website, rather than getting it at Target. One exclusive song if fine, but a whole disk? That would kind of suck for those who didn't want to join the website for whatever the reason. Sure you don't have to have it but most would want it. I think adding a 4th disk to the web-set would have just added to the theme of him "forcing fans to join the web-site.


why not offer a little extra incentive to the diehards, rather than just an album download of something we're going to buy at target anyway? he knows his fans well enough to know that we're going to want the physical version as well as what would be on the official site. it would have been cool to have a remixed/re-edited version on the site, so there'd be two different versions of the music to plow through. SOMEthing that would give the site something unique to offer. right now, there's next to nothing.


But my point is a lot of die-hards didn't join the web-site for various reasons. It's almost like saying if you don't join my web-site and jump through 7 hoops of answering a secret riddle and a whole bunch of clickty-click in addition to paying $77 your not a real fan.

Now if he had a retail section on the website where items could be purchased like the fictional "4th disk" or t-shirts or whatever without joining that would be different. Then the fictional "4th disk" could have come as freebie as a part of the subscription for those who joined, as well as sold independantly at retail price for those who are die-hard fans but didn't want to join the web-site. I could get on board with the idea.
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