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Printablestanleylieber said: errant said: give us stuff that we already know is absolute shit ("Fuschia Light"
HOLD ON there! 
That one is good. it really isn't. sorry.  | |
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errant said: stanleylieber said: HOLD ON there!
That one is good. it really isn't. sorry. hater 
omg, I didn't just say that!!!!! it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: errant said: it really isn't. sorry. hater
omg, I didn't just say that!!!!! omg, like yooouir soooo stuck in the past 
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Is The Vault actually a vault where demo tapes and/or music sheets are stored? | |
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jill4life said: Is The Vault actually a vault where demo tapes and/or music sheets are stored?
Yes. It's a real bank vault built in the basement of Paisley Park. There are a handful of pictures of the doorway floating around, and one very small, lo-res snapshot that shows racks of tapes on the inside, from a TV special a long time ago. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Often when Prince releases new material i read reactions here by fans (who are not content with his new music) like: why doesnt he release the material from the Vault, it is so much better?...or something, like that.
That makes me wonder: does Prince himself see that the same way? I sorta doubt that. I mean... maybe he simply feels his new material is better then that in the vault, and that for example Incense and Candles is a better song then In all my dreams or Witness for the prosecution. One of the things that occured to me since the mid-nineties is that Prince often quite frequently seems to have 'problems' to recognize if a song he created is a real winner, mere filler or something in between. Its not something I really blame him for personally, because I think he does it mostly unpurposely. But sometimes I think he misses the influence / pressure from some narrowly involved bandmembers (Wendy and Lisa, Leeds), a good manager (Leeds nr. 2) or a record company (WB) to help him realise that not all of the (hundreds) of songs he creates are great, and who dare to say a thing like: this is not a very strong track, dont put in unto the album. What are your views on this? Do you also think that Prince sometimes has problems with 'quality control', or do you think its a non-issue? [Edited 5/7/09 13:00pm] It is a big issue! I raised it in one of my recent thread: Prince Has Lost The Art Of Final Cut You can tell about Prince's Future , but his Past is utterly unpredictable | |
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luvsexy4all said: he is/ has been releasing vault material .....its being filtered throughout his albums for the past, id say, 20 years. unfortunately at a snails pace
tired topic...i dont envy prince on his decision on what to do with all that material I think U've got a point there. Makes U wonder if they are actually the songs we talk about as ''the gems that are hidden on every new record''; Rave unto the joy fantastic is a KNOWN example but songs like Holy River, The One U Wanna C, 7 and Reflection come to mind.... | |
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I've come to the conclusion that the vault is probably not that great, why else was Crystal Ball packed with a significant number of fillers? Straight from the vault, right? So I think that Prince in general has made good decisions about which songs to put on an album. Exceptions of course exist. Then again, since Crystal Ball was released in 1997, it's been another 12 years of vault material. Those 12 years might hide some real gems.  | |
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peter430044 said: I've come to the conclusion that the vault is probably not that great, why else was Crystal Ball packed with a significant number of fillers? Straight from the vault, right? So I think that Prince in general has made good decisions about which songs to put on an album. Exceptions of course exist. Then again, since Crystal Ball was released in 1997, it's been another 12 years of vault material. Those 12 years might hide some real gems.
I can think of a dozen tracks right off the top of my head that I've heard that are 1,000 times better than roughly half of the material that he's put on his studio albums.  If everything else in there sucks, then so be it, but let's get a release for the stuff that we know is incredible and then we'll sort out and argue over the quality of the rest of it. | |
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