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Reply #240 posted 05/06/09 7:20pm

SPOOKYGAS

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Sdldawn said:

well.. he's right


they have sucked


No he is not 'right' he happens to agree with you.
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Reply #241 posted 05/06/09 7:21pm

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Paris9748430 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



comfort That's ok! I'm sure that discojellyfish spaceship will be along any minute now. wink



Very clever, did SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy give you permission to speak?


Yeah, he also gave me permission to ask how do you get anything done with your head so far up...nevermind...I'll snip it myself. wink
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Reply #242 posted 05/06/09 7:21pm

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Sdldawn said:




A question for you.. who the fuck cares..


One hater down...Next.


No honestly, I'm not listening to prince or trent for who has been considered a genius, or remembered most.. I like to listen to quality music, and prince hasn't been on the quality control in years.. his last output was about as quality as it gets I guess.. and how is that even relevant to what the overall statement trent made? he only said what prince fans have felt for years..
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Reply #243 posted 05/06/09 7:22pm

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Sdldawn said:

SPOOKYGAS said:



One hater down...Next.


No honestly, I'm not listening to prince or trent for who has been considered a genius, or remembered most.. I like to listen to quality music, and prince hasn't been on the quality control in years.. his last output was about as quality as it gets I guess.. and how is that even relevant to what the overall statement trent made? he only said what prince fans have felt for years..


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Reply #244 posted 05/06/09 7:23pm

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-Trent Reznor is talented, but is very much a cult artist with limited appeal. At one time, NIN was the cutting edge of synth sounds in music, but the same could be said about Prince. How utterly 90's does NIN still sound today?

-Reznor has not the cultural impact, longevity, range, nor commercial & critical success that Prince has.

-Nor has Trent got the onstage chops/abilities to match Prince.

--We can argue all day and night about "quality" of his music, vs Prince, but it's subjective. Apples and Oranges indeed. Instead, compare career success/impact.

-How can the same people at the org who scream for Prince to be "relevant" and "cutting edge" embrace Trent Reznor aka a guy who hasn't made an album that has been "relevant" since 1994?



-If Prince had the same career trajectory as Trent Reznor he'd have peaked at Controversy or Dirty Mind.

Bottom line: Trent Reznor is cool and I like me some NIN. However, Mr. NIN calling out Prince is a bit is like Dennis Rodman or Latrell Spreewell speaking ill of Michael Jordan. What's the point?
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Reply #245 posted 05/06/09 7:28pm

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This thread sucks. Release a single Prince, or at least put something up on the website pout
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Reply #246 posted 05/06/09 7:28pm

Sdldawn

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This thread sucks. Release a single Prince, or at least put something up on the website pout


This thread sucks like his new website.


at least there is more context on this thread.. (count it)
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Reply #247 posted 05/06/09 7:32pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Nothinbutjoy said:




Again...wrong!! Funny, but just wrong!!

spit

clapping


And it's not brave, it's blunt. Still, not having a problem about what he said.


Shiiiiit!! It was brave because I'm pretty sure the Leave Prince Alone Brigade is planning massive NIN protests including but not limited to cd burnings as I type! lol



Brave is running into a burning building to save a person.

This might be bad business, but Trent will be just fine without the falloff "Leave Prince Alone Brigade" 's business.
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Reply #248 posted 05/06/09 7:32pm

Accujack

skywalker said:

-Trent Reznor is talented, but is very much a cult artist with limited appeal. At one time, NIN was the cutting edge of synth sounds in music, but the same could be said about Prince. How utterly 90's does NIN still sound today?

-Reznor has not the cultural impact, longevity, range, nor commercial & critical success that Prince has.

-Nor has Trent got the onstage chops/abilities to match Prince.

--We can argue all day and night about "quality" of his music, vs Prince, but it's subjective. Apples and Oranges indeed. Instead, compare career success/impact.

-How can the same people at the org who scream for Prince to be "relevant" and "cutting edge" embrace Trent Reznor aka a guy who hasn't made an album that has been "relevant" since 1994?



-If Prince had the same career trajectory as Trent Reznor he'd have peaked at Controversy or Dirty Mind.

Bottom line: Trent Reznor is cool and I like me some NIN. However, Mr. NIN calling out Prince is a bit is like Dennis Rodman or Latrell Spreewell speaking ill of Michael Jordan. What's the point?


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Reply #249 posted 05/06/09 7:33pm

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stanleylieber said:

Accujack said:



Reznor has every right to call out and criticize anyone he so chooses. As we all do.
But why? And why are you so compelled to champion his right to do so? There is nothing constructive about one artist saying that another's art "sucks".
Sure, Prince has made derogatory remarks about current pop music, but has he ever said "insert artist here"'s music sucks?
It's tacky and childish.

I find it hard to believe that had Prince said this on Tavis' show about Reznor's music, you would not have been as eager to stand up for P's right to do so.

Am I upset or hurt about Reznor's comment? Absolutely not. I do think less of him though for saying another artist's work sucks. And that goes for his comment about Cuomo as well.


At the risk of repeating myself, I have never understood the expectation of formal decorum from pop culture celebrities. That goes for people's expectations of Prince as well (and as fans we know he has his quirks). I agree Reznor could have expressed his view with more grace, and I don't think I would have said it that way myself, but his comments were relevant to the discussion he was having and I find it difficult to argue with his sentiment. As a Prince fan, Reznor wants to be blown away by a new Prince record. He's observing that once Prince got freedom he seemed to slack off in the quality department. Agree or disagree, I'm not disappointed in him for saying so.

There is a slight double standard when it comes to Prince because he frequently portrays himself as being a teacher, relating "the truth" to us down here on our level. There is a natural backlash to that kind of attitude that comes out when fans observe Prince's moments of hypocrisy. Reznor is (relatively speaking) immune to that because he doesn't come at you like he's better than you simply because he can play guitar (or whatever instrument). I would agree that people hold Prince to a higher standard in terms of his personal behavior and his public remarks. But consider that Prince put himself in that position by portraying himself as keeper of the truth.

You know, I can't remember the last time Reznor spoke in riddles or demanded that fans only comment positively on his work unless they were Miles Davis or his father.

There's probably something to that.



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Reply #250 posted 05/06/09 7:36pm

Anxiety

has this thread really devolved into a "whose weenie is the biggest" throwdown? lol sigh

i think both are iconic and brilliant in ways that are different but which also overlap somewhat.

there are plusses and minuses and greater-thans and less-thans to be argued in both directions.

trent is doing with music and the internet today what prince was doing with music and the internet ten years ago. without prince, what NIN is doing these days might not be happening. on the other hand, it would be nice if what prince were doing with the internet these days was as impressive as what NIN has been doing the past couple of years. so see, it can go both ways...
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Reply #251 posted 05/06/09 7:38pm

Sdldawn

I wonder if Trent would let prince borrow some of his energy..


or business sense..
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Reply #252 posted 05/06/09 7:46pm

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SPOOKYGAS said:

A question or Two for the Fams and Haters...

Who will be remembered and revered the most Prince or Razor?

Who has been referred to as a Genius countless times by his fellow musicians, peers etc...Prince or Twent?

Do Razor blades views actually matter, I mean come on...who the fuck is he, is he known outside the US of A? Its not as if a 'musical great' had passed these remarks, he is obviously very jealous and seeking attention and devoid of any class what so ever to make petty comments about a fellow 'artist'.

Lotusflow3r and MPLS are fantastic albums and from what I can gather I am not the only one who thinks so. I have been a listener of the mans music for 26 years now and to me there as good as any he has put out so go fuck an orange.


Your questions are pointless because Prince is remembered, revered and called a genius based on his past work, not his current work! When it comes to his current work, the most revering comments are about how he stuck it to the music industry as far as distribution goes, not about the quality of the material! In 10 years, no one other than the hardcorest of Prince fans will even remember Lotusflow3r or MPLS. If he continues at that rate, eventually he's going be remembered purely for his ability to stick it to the music industry, not his greatness as an artist and I think that'll be a damn shame! shrug
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Reply #253 posted 05/06/09 7:47pm

Paris9748430

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Paris9748430 said:




Very clever, did SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy give you permission to speak?


Yeah, he also gave me permission to ask how do you get anything done with your head so far up...nevermind...I'll snip it myself. wink


Yeah, my head is up Prince's ass.

You got me!!!

I agree with any and everything he's ever done or will do!!!

That's right, because you actually know me and can comment on what I'm like as a person if I don't agree with your point a view.

I'm drinking Purple Kool-Aid
I've got my head up Prince's ass
I'm a sycophant
I'm a yes-man

All that is true!!!

That's your opinion, so it MUST be true!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #254 posted 05/06/09 7:49pm

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I wonder if Trent would let prince borrow some of his energy..


Energy? In what way is Prince lacking energy that he would need Trent to loan him some?
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Reply #255 posted 05/06/09 7:50pm

Sdldawn

Maybe Trent could produce prince new album..
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Reply #256 posted 05/06/09 7:51pm

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Anxiety said:

has this thread really devolved into a "whose weenie is the biggest" throwdown? lol sigh

i think both are iconic and brilliant in ways that are different but which also overlap somewhat.

there are plusses and minuses and greater-thans and less-thans to be argued in both directions.

trent is doing with music and the internet today what prince was doing with music and the internet ten years ago. without prince, what NIN is doing these days might not be happening. on the other hand, it would be nice if what prince were doing with the internet these days was as impressive as what NIN has been doing the past couple of years. so see, it can go both ways...


LMAO @ the bold part and clapping for the rest!
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Reply #257 posted 05/06/09 7:52pm

Sdldawn

Maybe Prince could produce Trents new album
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Reply #258 posted 05/06/09 7:55pm

Sdldawn

you know damn well this http://www.nin.com/pub/strobelight/ is better than anything prince has done in years.. lol



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Reply #259 posted 05/06/09 7:57pm

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Maybe Trent could produce prince new album..


In trentys wet dreams...thats funny right there..produce a Prince album..you are having a fucking laugh intcha?
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Reply #260 posted 05/06/09 7:57pm

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Paris9748430 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



Yeah, he also gave me permission to ask how do you get anything done with your head so far up...nevermind...I'll snip it myself. wink


Yeah, my head is up Prince's ass.

You got me!!!

I agree with any and everything he's ever done or will do!!!

That's right, because you actually know me and can comment on what I'm like as a person if I don't agree with your point a view.

I'm drinking Purple Kool-Aid
I've got my head up Prince's ass
I'm a sycophant
I'm a yes-man

All that is true!!!

That's your opinion, so it MUST be true!!!


spit I did not say any of that...I was going to say up your own ass but that would have been snipped as a personal attack. I will give you credit though because admitting your problems is always half the battle! lol
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Reply #261 posted 05/06/09 7:58pm

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Sdldawn said:

Maybe Trent could produce prince new album..


In trentys wet dreams...thats funny right there..produce a Prince album..you are having a fucking laugh intcha?


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Reply #262 posted 05/06/09 8:00pm

Paris9748430

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Paris9748430 said:



Yeah, my head is up Prince's ass.

You got me!!!

I agree with any and everything he's ever done or will do!!!

That's right, because you actually know me and can comment on what I'm like as a person if I don't agree with your point a view.

I'm drinking Purple Kool-Aid
I've got my head up Prince's ass
I'm a sycophant
I'm a yes-man

All that is true!!!

That's your opinion, so it MUST be true!!!


spit I did not say any of that...I was going to say up your own ass but that would have been snipped as a personal attack. I will give you credit though because admitting your problems is always half the battle! lol



Admiting you're acting like a smug, ass would be great for you too!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #263 posted 05/06/09 8:08pm

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Paris9748430 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



spit I did not say any of that...I was going to say up your own ass but that would have been snipped as a personal attack. I will give you credit though because admitting your problems is always half the battle! lol



Admiting you're acting like a smug, ass would be great for you too!!!


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Reply #264 posted 05/06/09 8:14pm

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WisdomNLove said:

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Trent Reznor posts here as BartvanHemelen biggrin



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Reply #265 posted 05/06/09 8:33pm

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All I know is that regardless of the mixed opinions of people concerning the quality or lack of regarding Prince's recent out put... all that matters in this situation is...

Who the fuck is Trent Reznor?

If not for a couple people here holding his sack all the time... I wouldn't know who the hell he was. Nor would I care. And I still don't. I could ask the same question to every one I know... and they would give the same reply, " Trent who...???"

According to 'you guys'... he's done some very fan friendly things with marketing himself to his fans. But what does that really have to do about his music? The only people who will utter his name in the same sentence with Prince are his own fans.. while everyone else is still asking "who?".
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Reply #266 posted 05/06/09 8:46pm

Linn4days

Aw.."Trent-y" want some attention...Aw..

Pacify this man with some attention..

Whuh? You wanna spot on Leno?

You want more $$$$ and wecord sales too?

Aw..

Don't cry baby..


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Reply #267 posted 05/06/09 8:54pm

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lolol

I guess Trent loved all the other Prince CDs..lololol


He really liked: TRC, 1999, Lovesexy, Batman, Sign O' The Times..


Yeah... They were real "Techno Metal" CDs like Reznor produces... lol lol lol

Clearly, he's "slamming" and "name-dropping" for attention.
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Reply #268 posted 05/06/09 8:54pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

All I know is that regardless of the mixed opinions of people concerning the quality or lack of regarding Prince's recent out put... all that matters in this situation is...

Who the fuck is Trent Reznor?

If not for a couple people here holding his sack all the time... I wouldn't know who the hell he was. Nor would I care. And I still don't. I could ask the same question to every one I know... and they would give the same reply, " Trent who...???"

According to 'you guys'... he's done some very fan friendly things with marketing himself to his fans. But what does that really have to do about his music? The only people who will utter his name in the same sentence with Prince are his own fans.. while everyone else is still asking "who?".


Speaking only for myself here, but I think I'd be a little more tolerant of his newer stuff if he wasn't prone to being such a douche at times. Honestly, it's tainted my opinion of his newer work. Sorry, but that's just how I feel.
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Reply #269 posted 05/06/09 8:58pm

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