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Reply #180 posted 05/06/09 5:02pm

lotusflower

Trent has no reason to speak!

LotusFlow3r is a great freakin' record! LOVE IT!

Trent hasn't had a great album since 'The Downward Spiral' and just when he's releasing his music his own way (which is GOOD, but quality is NONE!) he thinks he's all that?! COME ON... Prince was ROCKIN' when Trent was still in diapers!

He should have some respect!
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Reply #181 posted 05/06/09 5:03pm

GetAwayFromMe

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GetAwayFromMe said:




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Come the fuck on!!! That flat piece of shit Prince sold in a paper folder pales in comparison to anything NIN has done.


I still think this is a sidetrack. NIN's quality has nothing to do with Prince's quality. It doesn't make Prince's album any better if NIN's sucks. It doesn't make Prince's album any worse if NIN's is great. It's irrelevant.


Trent could write an album in mere seconds while Prince would drive around all night with his stupid shades on, courting girls thirty years too young for him, and acting all mysterious, hiding from the shadows in his house before he would come up with just ONE song that's comparable. Trent is 100% correct in what he said, Prince's latest output stinks like shit.
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Reply #182 posted 05/06/09 5:03pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


A song has to be danceable to be genius?




Just imagine Prince doing this shit clapping
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Prince did, and called it "Let's Pretend We're Married".


Brilliant comparison!
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Reply #183 posted 05/06/09 5:05pm

lotusflower

''Trent could write''


enough said
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Reply #184 posted 05/06/09 5:07pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

WisdomNLove said:




awww Trent is envious because Prince doesnt have to consistently giveaway free music , be active on Twitter or conduct corny April fools joke for his fans to like him. The last albums havent sucked, no matter what quality of music is in anyones opinion, it will always sell point blank.

let the games begin

Holy shit! You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about. Trent is LAUGHING at how mediocre Prince is. NIN have brilliant songs on every single album, Prince just sucks ass.

My God! Are people in the world really this stupid? lol

Dude why are U even here? wacky
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Reply #185 posted 05/06/09 5:08pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

stanleylieber said:



I still think this is a sidetrack. NIN's quality has nothing to do with Prince's quality. It doesn't make Prince's album any better if NIN's sucks. It doesn't make Prince's album any worse if NIN's is great. It's irrelevant.


Trent could write an album in mere seconds while Prince would drive around all night with his stupid shades on, courting girls thirty years too young for him, and acting all mysterious, hiding from the shadows in his house before he would come up with just ONE song that's comparable. Trent is 100% correct in what he said, Prince's latest output stinks like shit.


Stop with this Trent being holier than thou while Prince is a lowlife schtick just because he releases some shit for free etc.
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Reply #186 posted 05/06/09 5:08pm

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PurpleMedley122 said:

GetAwayFromMe said:


Holy shit! You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about. Trent is LAUGHING at how mediocre Prince is. NIN have brilliant songs on every single album, Prince just sucks ass.

My God! Are people in the world really this stupid? lol

Dude why are U even here? wacky


lol yeah Trent? why are u even here?
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Reply #187 posted 05/06/09 5:11pm

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lotusflower said:

''Trent could write''


enough said



Damn, do you come out of your cave much? I think you need to do a bit more research before you post here. I'll say it again...

I've been a fan of Prince for 27 years...and this latest album is the shittiest piece of shit I've ever heard. I don't know WHAT you people are listening to, but the fact that he had to market through Target is pathetic in itself, and very telling. Maybe I got a different version of the three CD's that cost $11.98 (I suspect they cost so little because he knew the songs were shit), but I think they are terrifyingly horrible. I can't even listen to them at all.

He needs to release songs that are better, maybe he already has them. That's what Trent is saying.
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Reply #188 posted 05/06/09 5:13pm

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PurpleMedley122 said:

GetAwayFromMe said:


Holy shit! You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about. Trent is LAUGHING at how mediocre Prince is. NIN have brilliant songs on every single album, Prince just sucks ass.

My God! Are people in the world really this stupid? lol

Dude why are U even here? wacky



Because I like the other forums....and also because I've been waiting for the little man to get his head out of his ass. It seems that won't happen, and other people in the music world are starting to notice too.

Besides Prince, I am a major fan of NIN. And I'm not a dude either.
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Reply #189 posted 05/06/09 5:13pm

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NouveauDance said:

Watch your back Trent, the Paisley Kool Aid kids will be hunting you down!


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Reply #190 posted 05/06/09 5:14pm

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xlr8r said:

GetAwayFromMe said:



Trent could write an album in mere seconds while Prince would drive around all night with his stupid shades on, courting girls thirty years too young for him, and acting all mysterious, hiding from the shadows in his house before he would come up with just ONE song that's comparable. Trent is 100% correct in what he said, Prince's latest output stinks like shit.


Stop with this Trent being holier than thou while Prince is a lowlife schtick just because he releases some shit for free etc.



In hindsight, I wasted $12 on a couple CDs I can't even listen to without shaking my head. So by all rights, Prince SHOULD HAVE given it away for free and didn't. Which is worse?
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Reply #191 posted 05/06/09 5:15pm

Anxiety

GetAwayFromMe said:

Anxiety said:



LotusFlow3r is NOT better than downward spiral or pretty hate machine. lol

the rest of the NIN catalog, i don't care to argue. shrug


OR Broken, OR Fixed, OR The Fragile, OR Year Zero, OR With Teeth, OR the remix albums. lol


yeah, i like those albums, but not enough to defend them against an angry fam. boxed
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Reply #192 posted 05/06/09 5:17pm

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Anxiety said:

GetAwayFromMe said:



OR Broken, OR Fixed, OR The Fragile, OR Year Zero, OR With Teeth, OR the remix albums. lol


yeah, i like those albums, but not enough to defend them against an angry fam. boxed


Please Anx, can you please explain to these misguideds how much better Trent's work is compared to Lotusshitpile???
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Reply #193 posted 05/06/09 5:18pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

lotusflower said:

''Trent could write''


enough said



Damn, do you come out of your cave much? I think you need to do a bit more research before you post here. I'll say it again...

I've been a fan of Prince for 27 years...and this latest album is the shittiest piece of shit I've ever heard. I don't know WHAT you people are listening to, but the fact that he had to market through Target is pathetic in itself, and very telling. Maybe I got a different version of the three CD's that cost $11.98 (I suspect they cost so little because he knew the songs were shit), but I think they are terrifyingly horrible. I can't even listen to them at all.

He needs to release songs that are better, maybe he already has them. That's what Trent is saying.


^^^has purple issues and is fullofit....

Ya know how u can tell?

You make mention of Trent being some pure soul who can write an album in a day/night (as if Prince couldnt or hasn't) but Prince would spend the night driving around on a poon hunt basically.

Now...whats wrong with a dude doing his thing? And who says Prince of all people is not productive.

And...you mention Prince doing such a dubious taking in driving around as a rock star but no mention of when Trent-skillet spent a decade soused on smack(and dont anyone come up at me pseaking of how trent got over it and worked it out or that he is human and fallable. I know it an agree but some dunderheads want to always point out only Princes ao called foibles and what not but not any of their own or anybod elses).

I see you.
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Reply #194 posted 05/06/09 5:18pm

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Nikademus said:

NouveauDance said:

Watch your back Trent, the Paisley Kool Aid kids will be hunting you down!




lol

where's the purple one?
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Reply #195 posted 05/06/09 5:19pm

Paris9748430

There's no constructive criticism in saying someone's music "sucks".

I'd take him seriously if he actually gave examples instead of making blanket statements

Has he actually listened to Prince last albums, or is he just talking out of his ass?

People talk about Prince's ego and and supposed "little man complex" (how very mature)??? This guy drops a couple of songs on a torrent, puts an album on a USB, and now all of a sudden he's acting like God's gift to music on the internet.

The worst thing about this is that it gives the whole "Prince needs to follow everything Trent does" crew a reason to run their yappers even more. Those people are more annoying than the most hardcore Prince apologist.

I think it bothers Trent that he's not Prince. Everything he does seems to be an homage in one way or another. Obviously, they don't sound anything alike. But I can sense a kind of obsession in Trent.

This is what Prince was talking about on Tavis when he likes constructive criticism, but statement like he "sucks" isn't gonna make him a better musician.

If Prince ever reads this do you think he's gonna be "Oh my God, Trent you are so right, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I promise to be more like you!!!"???
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #196 posted 05/06/09 5:19pm

lotusflower

GetAwayFromMe said:

Anxiety said:



yeah, i like those albums, but not enough to defend them against an angry fam. boxed


Please Anx, can you please explain to these misguideds how much better Trent's work is compared to Lotusshitpile???


OOh come on!!! confused U should stop with being a fan after 27 years! Cuz he's never doing his Sign O' The Times Thingie anymore!!!! He has done that shit, he's moved on!!!
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Reply #197 posted 05/06/09 5:20pm

Anxiety

GetAwayFromMe said:

Anxiety said:



yeah, i like those albums, but not enough to defend them against an angry fam. boxed


Please Anx, can you please explain to these misguideds how much better Trent's work is compared to Lotusshitpile???



even though i DO stand by my opinion stated earlier, it is kind of apples and oranges if you think about it. comparing lotusflow3r to downward spiral would be kinda like comparing david bowie's reality album to talking heads' remain in light album. you're comparing an album created by an icon past their prime to an album created by another icon when they were in the middle of their almighty zeitgeist. that's no fair.

still and all, ain't no way LF is "better than" downward spiral. shake lol
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Reply #198 posted 05/06/09 5:20pm

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Paris9748430 said:

There's no constructive criticism in saying someone's music "sucks".

I'd take him seriously if he actually gave examples instead of making blanket statements

Has he actually listened to Prince last albums, or is he just talking out of his ass?

People talk about Prince's ego and and supposed "little man complex" (how very mature)??? This guy drops a couple of songs on a torrent, puts an album on a USB, and now all of a sudden he's acting like God's gift to music on the internet.

The worst thing about this is that it gives the whole "Prince needs to follow everything Trent does" crew a reason to run their yappers even more. Those people are more annoying than the most hardcore Prince apologist.

I think it bothers Trent that he's not Prince. Everything he does seems to be an homage in one way or another. Obviously, they don't sound anything alike. But I can sense a kind of obsession in Trent.

This is what Prince was talking about on Tavis when he likes constructive criticism, but statement like he "sucks" isn't gonna make him a better musician.

If Prince ever reads this do you think he's gonna be "Oh my God, Trent you are so right, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I promise to be more like you!!!"???



Trent's a fan, so most likely yeah.
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Reply #199 posted 05/06/09 5:22pm

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xlr8r said:

GetAwayFromMe said:



Trent could write an album in mere seconds while Prince would drive around all night with his stupid shades on, courting girls thirty years too young for him, and acting all mysterious, hiding from the shadows in his house before he would come up with just ONE song that's comparable. Trent is 100% correct in what he said, Prince's latest output stinks like shit.


Stop with this Trent being holier than thou while Prince is a lowlife schtick just because he releases some shit for free etc.


Uhh...Musicology and Planet Earth were sorta free and dare I say...yes mediocre! shrug
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Reply #200 posted 05/06/09 5:24pm

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lotusflower said:

GetAwayFromMe said:



Please Anx, can you please explain to these misguideds how much better Trent's work is compared to Lotusshitpile???


OOh come on!!! confused U should stop with being a fan after 27 years! Cuz he's never doing his Sign O' The Times Thingie anymore!!!! He has done that shit, he's moved on!!!


So "new" fans are the only ones who matter now?
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Reply #201 posted 05/06/09 5:25pm

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NDRU said:



he CAN be critical, obviously, but if he's going to criticize, he opens himself up to criticism of his own.

I'm not even trying to put him down, he's a very good musician (better than me to confirm your point). But my point is that the wrong things that Prince does contribute to the right things. NIN is more middle ground, and I prefer the extremes of Prince, even the lame ones.

As musician I try not to knock other musicians so much because I know how hard it is. I would expect Trent to be the same. If he listened to MPLSound closely, he'd hear the quality of the musicianship. There's no need for him to knock a talented musician (maybe to raise himself up?) for the benefit of his non-musician fans. Weezer continues to have hits. They're doing fine. Why bash them?


'Cause he wants to?

I don't know, I guess I just don't understand the extreme distaste for negative criticism amongst Prince fans. (Unless they're talking about someone other than Prince, that is.) Reznor voiced an opinion. It's no more important than that. You may not be aware, but he's somewhat famous for letting his feelings rip.

Just as Prince is somewhat famous for not acknowledging the presence of other human beings when he deigns them beneath his notice.

I don't actually buy into the notion that one has to be a musician (talented or not) in order to criticize someone else's music. I brought up the stunning hypocrisy of dismissing Reznor's opinion by saying his music sucks simiply in order to point out the stunning hypocrisy of dismissing Reznor's opinion by saying his music sucks. If you think for a second, "Prince is more talented than Reznor so Reznor should shut up" is not really a coherent position. It invalidates all positive opinions we might hold as well, rendering all of our presence on this site invalid. End thread. End site. FAIL.

I realize I'm yelling at a wall here.


I thnink, it would be like me saying the guy that came in 20th place at the Masters, sucks. Now, I can't hit a golf ball consistantly. Wouldn't it sound stupid of me to criticize after finding out that fact? Yeah, I played 3 sports in high school and 2 in college, I have a championship ring on my finger, and several students I've coached are playing college ball right now, but my golf game sucks!
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Reply #202 posted 05/06/09 5:25pm

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Paris9748430 said:

There's no constructive criticism in saying someone's music "sucks".

I'd take him seriously if he actually gave examples instead of making blanket statements

Has he actually listened to Prince last albums, or is he just talking out of his ass?

People talk about Prince's ego and and supposed "little man complex" (how very mature)??? This guy drops a couple of songs on a torrent, puts an album on a USB, and now all of a sudden he's acting like God's gift to music on the internet.

The worst thing about this is that it gives the whole "Prince needs to follow everything Trent does" crew a reason to run their yappers even more. Those people are more annoying than the most hardcore Prince apologist.

I think it bothers Trent that he's not Prince. Everything he does seems to be an homage in one way or another. Obviously, they don't sound anything alike. But I can sense a kind of obsession in Trent.

This is what Prince was talking about on Tavis when he likes constructive criticism, but statement like he "sucks" isn't gonna make him a better musician.

If Prince ever reads this do you think he's gonna be "Oh my God, Trent you are so right, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I promise to be more like you!!!"???
I see that somebody is drunk off of purple kool-aid...
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Reply #203 posted 05/06/09 5:27pm

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Nikademus said:

lotusflower said:



OOh come on!!! confused U should stop with being a fan after 27 years! Cuz he's never doing his Sign O' The Times Thingie anymore!!!! He has done that shit, he's moved on!!!


So "new" fans are the only ones who matter now?

They are the ones Prince is pandering to. He knows they will fight for him no matter how wrong he is.
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Reply #204 posted 05/06/09 5:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Nikademus said:



So "new" fans are the only ones who matter now?

They are the ones Prince is pandering to. He knows they will fight for him no matter how wrong he is.


Heh...sometimes I think Prince really DID die sigh


Seriously...I want a get a time machine so I can go back in time and get the 80's Prince so he can slap some sense into the 00's Prince disbelief
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Reply #205 posted 05/06/09 5:31pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Nikademus said:



So "new" fans are the only ones who matter now?

They are the ones Prince is pandering to. He knows they will fight for him no matter how wrong he is.


I'm not saying that!

No way I'm gonna fight for him no matter how wrong he is!!!

With the whole INTERNET website crap he's done, i was pretty mad!!!

But if your a fan for a long time, and you wanna see a Sign O The Times II, it never gonna happen... that's all... He's done all of that! He's moved on!

So maybe in that ASPECT yeah. NEW fans are the ones who matter right NOW!
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Reply #206 posted 05/06/09 5:31pm

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kenlacam said:

Paris9748430 said:

There's no constructive criticism in saying someone's music "sucks".

I'd take him seriously if he actually gave examples instead of making blanket statements

Has he actually listened to Prince last albums, or is he just talking out of his ass?

People talk about Prince's ego and and supposed "little man complex" (how very mature)??? This guy drops a couple of songs on a torrent, puts an album on a USB, and now all of a sudden he's acting like God's gift to music on the internet.

The worst thing about this is that it gives the whole "Prince needs to follow everything Trent does" crew a reason to run their yappers even more. Those people are more annoying than the most hardcore Prince apologist.

I think it bothers Trent that he's not Prince. Everything he does seems to be an homage in one way or another. Obviously, they don't sound anything alike. But I can sense a kind of obsession in Trent.

This is what Prince was talking about on Tavis when he likes constructive criticism, but statement like he "sucks" isn't gonna make him a better musician.

If Prince ever reads this do you think he's gonna be "Oh my God, Trent you are so right, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I promise to be more like you!!!"???
I see that somebody is drunk off of purple kool-aid...


Is that all you got??? I'm not kissing Trent Reznor's ass, so I'm drunk off Purple Kool-Aid?

I have the audacity to actually enjoy Prince's latest output, so I'm "drinking Kool-Aid"???

Man, sometimes I wish Prince shut this hell hole the fuck down!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #207 posted 05/06/09 5:31pm

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Paris9748430 said:

There's no constructive criticism in saying someone's music "sucks".

I'd take him seriously if he actually gave examples instead of making blanket statements

Has he actually listened to Prince last albums, or is he just talking out of his ass?

People talk about Prince's ego and and supposed "little man complex" (how very mature)??? This guy drops a couple of songs on a torrent, puts an album on a USB, and now all of a sudden he's acting like God's gift to music on the internet.

The worst thing about this is that it gives the whole "Prince needs to follow everything Trent does" crew a reason to run their yappers even more. Those people are more annoying than the most hardcore Prince apologist.

I think it bothers Trent that he's not Prince. Everything he does seems to be an homage in one way or another. Obviously, they don't sound anything alike. But I can sense a kind of obsession in Trent.

This is what Prince was talking about on Tavis when he likes constructive criticism, but statement like he "sucks" isn't gonna make him a better musician.

If Prince ever reads this do you think he's gonna be "Oh my God, Trent you are so right, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I promise to be more like you!!!"???


Nothing short of God Almighty could make Prince a better musician! Damn it, we KNOW he's a great musician, nothing and no one on this earth can take that from him but statements like his current output sucks coming from long time fans of his work should be a damn wake up call!
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Reply #208 posted 05/06/09 5:31pm

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Nikademus said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


They are the ones Prince is pandering to. He knows they will fight for him no matter how wrong he is.


Heh...sometimes I think Prince really DID die sigh


Seriously...I want a get a time machine so I can go back in time and get the 80's Prince so he can slap some sense into the 00's Prince disbelief

maybe Trent can do it in 80s Prince absence! biggrin
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Reply #209 posted 05/06/09 5:32pm

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Paris9748430 said:

kenlacam said:

I see that somebody is drunk off of purple kool-aid...


Is that all you got??? I'm not kissing Trent Reznor's ass, so I'm drunk off Purple Kool-Aid?

I have the audacity to actually enjoy Prince's latest output, so I'm "drinking Kool-Aid"???

Man, sometimes I wish Prince shut this hell hole the fuck down!!!

THIS

AINT

PRINCE'S

SITE


Like the fams keep saying, if you don't like it why do you stay?! biggrin
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