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Reply #30 posted 05/06/09 2:04pm

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Graycap23 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Trent has his own fans who seem to be happier with his web activity than fams are of Prince's.

.....I have all of Trent's recent material and honestly, I have only played it once. Very weak material IMHO.

I'm not hyping his stuff as I'm not a super fan lol His fans seem to be happy though. I do wish Trent would create that Prince album that he always wanted to do. Might get Prince thinking.....
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Reply #31 posted 05/06/09 2:10pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Graycap23 said:


.....I have all of Trent's recent material and honestly, I have only played it once. Very weak material IMHO.

I'm not hyping his stuff as I'm not a super fan lol His fans seem to be happy though. I do wish Trent would create that Prince album that he always wanted to do. Might get Prince thinking.....

...but why slam Prince 2 get his point across? Or any artist 4 that matter?
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Reply #32 posted 05/06/09 2:11pm

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Graycap23 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I'm not hyping his stuff as I'm not a super fan lol His fans seem to be happy though. I do wish Trent would create that Prince album that he always wanted to do. Might get Prince thinking.....

...but why slam Prince 2 get his point across? Or any artist 4 that matter?

Because he respects him. Wouldn't you tell your fried to get the hell out of the gutter if you saw them in the street? lol
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Reply #33 posted 05/06/09 2:12pm

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this comment does not make me any less desirious to lick trent's biceps. hmph!
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Reply #34 posted 05/06/09 2:18pm

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You guys do realize that Trent Reznor is probably not as obsessed with Prince as we are, right?

Why is it okay for Prince to dis on "music today" but not okay for Trent Reznor?

Because Prince is talented?

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Reply #35 posted 05/06/09 2:21pm

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I don't really have any problem with what Trent said.

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Reply #36 posted 05/06/09 2:22pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

I don't really have any problem with what Trent said.

rose

He's asking Prince to FREE THE MUSIC which is what Prince said he would do all along! lol

Trentreznipatiooooon, telling Prince how to do it

cool


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Reply #37 posted 05/06/09 2:24pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

I don't really have any problem with what Trent said.

rose

He's asking Prince to FREE THE MUSIC which is what Prince said he would do all along! lol

Trentreznipatiooooon, telling Prince how to do it

cool


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Reply #38 posted 05/06/09 2:25pm

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stanleylieber said:

You guys do realize that Trent Reznor is probably not as obsessed with Prince as we are, right?

Why is it okay for Prince to dis on "music today" but not okay for Trent Reznor?

Because Prince is talented?



Yes i have heard prince slam todays music but not once have i heard him publicly slate someone elses work.
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Reply #39 posted 05/06/09 2:30pm

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cream72 said:

stanleylieber said:

You guys do realize that Trent Reznor is probably not as obsessed with Prince as we are, right?

Why is it okay for Prince to dis on "music today" but not okay for Trent Reznor?

Because Prince is talented?



Yes i have heard prince slam todays music but not once have i heard him publicly slate someone elses work.

I think the point Trent is trying to make is that Prince is busy emulating today's music instead of dropping those incredible gems on an album and releasing that. I wish more artists challenged Prince so he'd put out another Black Album clapping
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Reply #40 posted 05/06/09 2:43pm

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Obviously, people here are going to go nuts when someone like Trent Reznor disses on Prince. I don't think what Reznor said is that controversial. Reznor is someone who drew a lot of inspiration (and in some cases, samples) from Prince's earlier work. He's as qualified as anyone else to have an opinion, even if he disagrees with us.

Reznor used to tell a story about the time he met Prince. They were both at the WB offices at the same time for some reason. Reznor found himself passing Prince in the hallway. Reznor said hi. Prince ignored him and kept walking.

There's no real moral to that story except I thought it would be appropriate to tell it here. I now return you to the regularly scheduled defending of Prince and slamming of Reznor.
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Reply #41 posted 05/06/09 2:44pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

cream72 said:



Yes i have heard prince slam todays music but not once have i heard him publicly slate someone elses work.

I think the point Trent is trying to make is that Prince is busy emulating today's music instead of dropping those incredible gems on an album and releasing that. I wish more artists challenged Prince so he'd put out another Black Album clapping
Well he could have used a better term than sucks. Trent has never made anything that brothers like myself have enjoyed so until he comes up with a 1999 album then and only then will his opinion mean anything more than the rest of us. And I think that the majority of the orgers seem to think that Prince has put out a great triple disc if we were to check the census of the views of the majority of the people that post here.
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Reply #42 posted 05/06/09 2:45pm

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jimmyrogertodd said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I think the point Trent is trying to make is that Prince is busy emulating today's music instead of dropping those incredible gems on an album and releasing that. I wish more artists challenged Prince so he'd put out another Black Album clapping
Well he could have used a better term than sucks. Trent has never made anything that brothers like have enjoyed so until he comes up with a 1999 album then and only then will his opinion mean anything more than the rest of us. And I think that the majority of the orgers seem to think that Prince has put out a great triple disc if we were to check the census of the views of the majority of the people that post here.


Since when is taste a democracy?

Unclench.

I don't think Trent Reznor is saying his opinion "means anything" more than yours. Or mine.

I will tell you a secret: Prince is not the center of the universe.
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Reply #43 posted 05/06/09 2:46pm

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You act as if joining Lotusflow3r.com was the only way to purchase the album. I was always taught that when it comes to leisure items, never pay an amount that you can't afford to give away. I purchased the album at Target, and I have been jammin' Lotus and MPLS since I got them. I didn't join Lotusflow3r.com because I didn't and don't have $77.00 of disposable income. Prince has had a couple of cites before. You should have known what to expect. That being said, when I do get $77.00 of disposable income I will join. But, you can't purchase a pet rock and then get upset if it doesn't play fetch, roll over, or guard the house. It is a pet rock, ya know.

As for Trent Reznor slammin' Prince, "Plaaaeeese!!!" That no talent hack of b.s. sensationalism wouldn't know a good song if it kicked him in his pie hole. I'm so tired of all of these lame ass wanna be rockers who ain't even qualified to perm Jimi's hair and put on Little Richard's make-up and Pro Tool rappers who can't find middle C tryin' to cook in the kitchen and ain't got no grease. I say that constructively, ya know???

Lol. That is the absolute truth.
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Reply #44 posted 05/06/09 2:48pm

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Damn.. Trent Reznor has gotten very arrogant. Check out this quote from here: http://www.twentyfourbit....vers-cuomo

"I’m not Prince or Rivers Cuomo who brags about having hundreds of great songs,” Reznor said. “And to that I would say, Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you’ve put out because your last several have sucked. Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know.”



awww Trent is envious because Prince doesnt have to consistently giveaway free music , be active on Twitter or conduct corny April fools joke for his fans to like him. The last albums havent sucked, no matter what quality of music is in anyones opinion, it will always sell point blank.

let the games begin
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Reply #45 posted 05/06/09 2:49pm

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i get why he's razzing on prince, but rivers cuomo? i never really thought of him as prolific. he's released a couple of odds'n'sods solo albums, but those were just demos and scraps of songs...i didn't think they were supposed to be considered masterpieces. shrug
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Reply #46 posted 05/06/09 2:51pm

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crushingquiet said:

Damn.. Trent Reznor has gotten very arrogant. Check out this quote from here: http://www.twentyfourbit....vers-cuomo

"I’m not Prince or Rivers Cuomo who brags about having hundreds of great songs,” Reznor said. “And to that I would say, Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you’ve put out because your last several have sucked. Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know.”


When did Prince ever "brag" about having hundreds of "great" songs? I've heard more talk about the vault from the media and insiders than I ever have from Prince. As far as Trent saying that Prince's last several records have sucked, That's all relative and his opinion. NIN ain't all that. I only liked one song of his and that was years ago. That's my opinion.


Exactly! I can only recall Prince talking about the NUMBER of songs he has recorded in the vault, only as a statement of the fact that he's recording all the time... that he lives, eats, breathes, sleeps music, etc.

The QUALITY of those songs... that has been fueled by fan-buzz, bootlegs, etc.

I bet you if Prince did go dig out really old "classic" vault material that's been bootlegged, people here would STILL complain about getting a bunch of old shit.
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Reply #47 posted 05/06/09 2:52pm

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I think Princes bragging about the vault was just a way of building up his mystic, no less no more. Sure he has some unreleased music, most artists do. But I think the majority of quality trax have already surfaced. The bulk of what's in there probably doesn't amount to more than jam sessions.
Don't go just believing that cause I have seen a number of interviews where Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis have stated that Prince has hits on top of hits in his vault and some that they would attest to. So who would you believe??? I think that I'm going to go with the dudes who have quite a number of hits under their belts who seem to believe that this man is as good as some of us know that he is.
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Reply #48 posted 05/06/09 2:52pm

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This is one of those threads that I figured bart would be on like a bum on a ham sandwich.
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Reply #49 posted 05/06/09 2:59pm

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Detroit said:



When did Prince ever "brag" about having hundreds of "great" songs? I've heard more talk about the vault from the media and insiders than I ever have from Prince. As far as Trent saying that Prince's last several records have sucked, That's all relative and his opinion. NIN ain't all that. I only liked one song of his and that was years ago. That's my opinion.


Exactly! I can only recall Prince talking about the NUMBER of songs he has recorded in the vault, only as a statement of the fact that he's recording all the time... that he lives, eats, breathes, sleeps music, etc.

The QUALITY of those songs... that has been fueled by fan-buzz, bootlegs, etc.

I bet you if Prince did go dig out really old "classic" vault material that's been bootlegged, people here would STILL complain about getting a bunch of old shit.


Hmmmm.
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Reply #50 posted 05/06/09 3:04pm

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BeyondSpace said:

"I say that constructively, you know.”

By just saying that something sucks doesn't sound very constructive to me.


Also when Prince said he liked constructive critism, he also said he liked it from smart people


lol

And, yes, him saying Prince's last few albums have sucked is his opinion. His last few albums are probably not Trent's type of music, anyway. I love his last albums. To each his own, but dang...hater. lol
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Reply #51 posted 05/06/09 3:06pm

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You guys do realize that Trent Reznor is probably not as obsessed with Prince as we are, right?

Why is it okay for Prince to dis on "music today" but not okay for Trent Reznor?

Because Prince is talented?



Because most of the music today is CLEARLY God awful terrible. And, that's not my opinion. That's a fact. wink LOL

And, I don't think Prince ever said stuff in such a fashion as Trent did. Just sayin'.
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Reply #52 posted 05/06/09 3:07pm

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PEJ said:

This is one of those threads that I figured bart would be on like a bum on a ham sandwich.


I wondered how long it would take for someone to complain that he wasn't here... so they could complain about him. biggrin
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Reply #53 posted 05/06/09 3:08pm

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sexyeyeliner said:

stanleylieber said:

You guys do realize that Trent Reznor is probably not as obsessed with Prince as we are, right?

Why is it okay for Prince to dis on "music today" but not okay for Trent Reznor?

Because Prince is talented?



Because most of the music today is CLEARLY God awful terrible. And, that's not my opinion. That's a fact. wink LOL

And, I don't think Prince ever said stuff in such a fashion as Trent did. Just sayin'.


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Reply #54 posted 05/06/09 3:08pm

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stanleylieber said:

PEJ said:

This is one of those threads that I figured bart would be on like a bum on a ham sandwich.


I wondered how long it would take for someone to complain that he wasn't here... so they could complain about him. biggrin


look, i know the rule: say the name three times and he appears, then you have to trick him into saying his name backwards to get rid of him. disbelief
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Reply #55 posted 05/06/09 3:09pm

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stanleylieber said:

Obviously, people here are going to go nuts when someone like Trent Reznor disses on Prince. I don't think what Reznor said is that controversial. Reznor is someone who drew a lot of inspiration (and in some cases, samples) from Prince's earlier work. He's as qualified as anyone else to have an opinion, even if he disagrees with us.

Reznor used to tell a story about the time he met Prince. They were both at the WB offices at the same time for some reason. Reznor found himself passing Prince in the hallway. Reznor said hi. Prince ignored him and kept walking.

There's no real moral to that story except I thought it would be appropriate to tell it here. I now return you to the regularly scheduled defending of Prince and slamming of Reznor.


So, this is just like Eminem and Everlast? I'm gonna diss you because you didn't say hi to me!
Funny
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Reply #56 posted 05/06/09 3:09pm

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lol trent surely does some things right, but I have never heard anything from him that can touch Prince's best work
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Reply #57 posted 05/06/09 3:11pm

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jimmyrogertodd said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I think the point Trent is trying to make is that Prince is busy emulating today's music instead of dropping those incredible gems on an album and releasing that. I wish more artists challenged Prince so he'd put out another Black Album clapping
Well he could have used a better term than sucks. Trent has never made anything that brothers like myself have enjoyed so until he comes up with a 1999 album then and only then will his opinion mean anything more than the rest of us. And I think that the majority of the orgers seem to think that Prince has put out a great triple disc if we were to check the census of the views of the majority of the people that post here.
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Reply #58 posted 05/06/09 3:11pm

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Anxiety said:

i get why he's razzing on prince, but rivers cuomo? i never really thought of him as prolific. he's released a couple of odds'n'sods solo albums, but those were just demos and scraps of songs...i didn't think they were supposed to be considered masterpieces. shrug

I have never heard of him before now lol
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Reply #59 posted 05/06/09 3:12pm

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PEJ said:

This is one of those threads that I figured bart would be on like a bum on a ham sandwich.

Instead, you are! biggrin
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