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Reply #420 posted 05/07/09 12:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ernestsewell said:

Very true. Every fan has said basically the same thing. That whole "too good to release" nonsense is a cover for one of two things. Either Prince can't release it because he doesn't have control over it, or he's just an idiot about his past, refusing to live in the past, etc (yes his homage to himself on MPLSound seems to negate that whole mantra of the early 00's.)


OK, was it Gentlemen's Esquire that he posed for the Versace shots and gave an interview during the Battle with WB and talking about his upcoming project Emancipation?

I can't be the only one who remembers reading this but he said something to the effect that People weren't ready for the music he was creating on Emancipation.

Let's face the facts folks. Emancipation, as much as I love most of it, is nothing that anybody couldn't be ready for especially Prince fans. So his saying the same thing now totally rings hollow for me.

PUT UP

OR

SHUT UP


maybe he meant people weren't ready for such shitty prince songs
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Reply #421 posted 05/07/09 12:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OK, was it Gentlemen's Esquire that he posed for the Versace shots and gave an interview during the Battle with WB and talking about his upcoming project Emancipation?

I can't be the only one who remembers reading this but he said something to the effect that People weren't ready for the music he was creating on Emancipation.

Let's face the facts folks. Emancipation, as much as I love most of it, is nothing that anybody couldn't be ready for especially Prince fans. So his saying the same thing now totally rings hollow for me.

PUT UP

OR

SHUT UP


BINGO. Ali talked a big game, but he'd actually go in the ring and knock someone the phuck out. Prince has yet to even get his hands taped.
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Reply #422 posted 05/07/09 12:22pm

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NDRU said:

ernestsewell said:



He's talking about putting out good songs, and people bragging they have songs that remain unreleased. He's not writing a critique column for Rolling Stone. His insight was "If you have all these great songs, put some on a CD and release them!" If Prince really likes critique from fans, CONSTRUCTIVE critique, as he stated on Tavis Smiley's show, then he'd shut up and listen to Trent.


but it's not constructive criticism. saying it sucks is just an opinion.

and suggesting that a person release an album of GOOD songs is not much of an insight


Just because Prince used the magic phrase "constructive criticism" and tried to imply that straight negativity is not constructive doesn't make it a universal rule. Trent may not even be aware of this latest proclamation from on high.
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Reply #423 posted 05/07/09 12:23pm

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ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OK, was it Gentlemen's Esquire that he posed for the Versace shots and gave an interview during the Battle with WB and talking about his upcoming project Emancipation?

I can't be the only one who remembers reading this but he said something to the effect that People weren't ready for the music he was creating on Emancipation.

Let's face the facts folks. Emancipation, as much as I love most of it, is nothing that anybody couldn't be ready for especially Prince fans. So his saying the same thing now totally rings hollow for me.

PUT UP

OR

SHUT UP


BINGO. Ali talked a big game, but he'd actually go in the ring and knock someone the phuck out. Prince has yet to even get his hands taped.


And that is Trent's unspoken point! lol
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Reply #424 posted 05/07/09 12:23pm

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Imago said:




I know everyone ignores my posts in this forum, but can somebody explain this 8 preceding presidents nonsense?


In short: The white man is a devilish trickster, etc.

Slightly longer version: The Continental Congress elected Presidents to preside over itself, prior to the establishment of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...l_congress

Prince apparently wasn't taught about this in high school. Apparently, finding out that the Continental Congress existed made him want to "slap somebody."


How embarrassing lol

Why the heck Tavis didn't followup with questions is beyond me.
I wonder if Prince every looks back on his interviews and say to himself, "Damn.. I fucked that shit up. lol"
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Reply #425 posted 05/07/09 12:27pm

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Trent dissing Prince is a big joke. lol Trent can never touch Prince, music wise.
The org never fails.
If Prince was to diss another artist like Trent did, some people here would be ready to boil him up like the rabbit in fatal attraction.
But Trent is doing the dissing, so it's ok. Why? oh, oh, he can diss people because he is so"undergound". lol
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Reply #426 posted 05/07/09 12:27pm

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Imago said:

stanleylieber said:



In short: The white man is a devilish trickster, etc.

Slightly longer version: The Continental Congress elected Presidents to preside over itself, prior to the establishment of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...l_congress

Prince apparently wasn't taught about this in high school. Apparently, finding out that the Continental Congress existed made him want to "slap somebody."


How embarrassing lol

Why the heck Tavis didn't followup with questions is beyond me.
I wonder if Prince every looks back on his interviews and say to himself, "Damn.. I fucked that shit up. lol"


Prince doesn't even question Prince so you know the answer to that question lol
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Reply #427 posted 05/07/09 12:30pm

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Purplestar88 said:

Trent dissing Prince is a big joke. lol Trent can never touch Prince, music wise.
The org never fails.
If Prince was to diss another artist like Trent did, some people here would be ready to boil him up like the rabbit in fatal attraction.
But Trent is doing the dissing, so it's ok. Why? oh, oh, he can diss people because he is so"undergound". lol


You're completely sidestepping the point, though.
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Reply #428 posted 05/07/09 12:30pm

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stanleylieber said:

NDRU said:



but it's not constructive criticism. saying it sucks is just an opinion.

and suggesting that a person release an album of GOOD songs is not much of an insight


Just because Prince used the magic phrase "constructive criticism" and tried to imply that straight negativity is not constructive doesn't make it a universal rule. Trent may not even be aware of this latest proclamation from on high.


I don't care that Prince said that, except I happen to agree with him.

It's fine to say it sucks (there are no rules to this stuff), there's just not much a musician can do with that except say "sorry you feel that way." It's unlikely to change Prince's next album
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Reply #429 posted 05/07/09 12:32pm

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Imago said:

stanleylieber said:



In short: The white man is a devilish trickster, etc.

Slightly longer version: The Continental Congress elected Presidents to preside over itself, prior to the establishment of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...l_congress

Prince apparently wasn't taught about this in high school. Apparently, finding out that the Continental Congress existed made him want to "slap somebody."


How embarrassing lol

Why the heck Tavis didn't followup with questions is beyond me.
I wonder if Prince every looks back on his interviews and say to himself, "Damn.. I fucked that shit up. lol"


I think Tavis was confused (as was I) but didn't want to just come out & say "what the hell are you referring to?" lol
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Reply #430 posted 05/07/09 12:48pm

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lol Let's compare, shall we?

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awww Trent is envious because Prince doesnt have to consistently giveaway free music ,


Didn't Prince give away Planet Earth last year, and Musicology a few years ago?

be active on Twitter


Dr. Funkenberry anyone? (Yes, I know D.F. is NOT Prince, but he posts every move Prince makes that he knows about. Similar.)

or conduct corny April fools joke for his fans to like him.


No, just a "Where's Fluffy?" game to figure out a concert venue, and a "riddle" to be able to join lotusflow3r.
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Reply #431 posted 05/07/09 12:49pm

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Purplestar88 said:

Trent dissing Prince is a big joke. lol Trent can never touch Prince, music wise.
The org never fails.
If Prince was to diss another artist like Trent did, some people here would be ready to boil him up like the rabbit in fatal attraction.
But Trent is doing the dissing, so it's ok. Why? oh, oh, he can diss people because he is so"undergound". lol


Oh please! Prince released a song dissing US and we thought it was the funkiest thing he'd done in years and said as much, so why would we be ready to boil him for dissing somebody else? rolleyes
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Reply #432 posted 05/07/09 12:54pm

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Accujack said:


Sure, Prince has made derogatory remarks about current pop music, but has he ever said "insert artist here"'s music sucks?
It's tacky and childish.


Does Prince saying "sexy never left" in response to Justin Timberlake's Sexyback count?
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Reply #433 posted 05/07/09 1:00pm

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stanleylieber said:[quote]

Purplestar88 said:

Trent dissing Prince is a big joke. lol Trent can never touch Prince, music wise.
The org never fails.
If Prince was to diss another artist like Trent did, some people here would be ready to boil him up like the rabbit in fatal attraction.
But Trent is doing the dissing, so it's ok. Why? oh, oh, he can diss people because he is so"undergound". lol


You're completely sidestepping the point, though.[/qu wink What point? Trent is not a bad artist but he is not all that to be dissing people or telling them what to put on a record. Prince is not
obligated to release any thing from his vault and I don't believe Prince has ever braged about the vault. The vault belongs to Prince not to Trent or the fans. Whatever Prince does with the vault is his decision, not Trent or the fans.
People want the vault songs but what happens if these songs don't meet some of the expections that people want to place on it. What happens then? I would to hear the some of the vault songs but I will demand Prince to do so. That is not right.
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Reply #434 posted 05/07/09 1:01pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:


Who the fuck is Trent Reznor?

If not for a couple people here holding his sack all the time... I wouldn't know who the hell he was. Nor would I care. And I still don't. I could ask the same question to every one I know... and they would give the same reply, " Trent who...???"

According to 'you guys'... he's done some very fan friendly things with marketing himself to his fans. But what does that really have to do about his music? The only people who will utter his name in the same sentence with Prince are his own fans.. while everyone else is still asking "who?".


Believe it or not, there are people who ask, "Prince who?" too. arrow
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Reply #435 posted 05/07/09 1:04pm

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ItsOnlyMountains said:

Accujack said:


Sure, Prince has made derogatory remarks about current pop music, but has he ever said "insert artist here"'s music sucks?
It's tacky and childish.


Does Prince saying "sexy never left" in response to Justin Timberlake's Sexyback count?


Or how about when he was doing his Vegas act and he called Paris Hilton up on stage and handed her a mic and said, "“Let’s see if she can really sing.”" knowing damn well she couldn't. He dissed and humiliated her, so he may as well had told her that her little song that she had out at time...sucked!
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Reply #436 posted 05/07/09 1:04pm

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Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks?

I mean, that guy has been producing the same old, self-lamenting 'industrial pap'for years and years.

Prince might not be as strong as he used to be, but Trent hasnt released anything that quality-wise and in terms of influence comes even close to the albums 1999 or Sign of the Times.
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Reply #437 posted 05/07/09 1:05pm

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Purplestar88 said:

What point? Trent is not a bad artist but he is not all that to be dissing people or telling them what to put on a record. Prince is not obligated to release any thing from his vault and I don't believe Prince has ever braged about the vault. The vault belongs to Prince not to Trent or the fans. Whatever Prince does with the vault is his decision, not Trent or the fans.

People want the vault songs but what happens if these songs don't meet some of the expections that people want to place on it. What happens then? I would to hear the some of the vault songs but I will demand Prince to do so. That is not right.


There seems to be some expectation that folks will be receiving access to vault material on lotus. Anyone know if Prince or his site or the emails from lotus set that expectation?
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Reply #438 posted 05/07/09 1:06pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks?

I mean, that guy has been producing the same old, self-lamenting 'industrial pap'for years and years.

Prince might not be as strong as he used to be, but Trent hasnt released anything that quality-wise and in terms of influence comes even close to the albums 1999 or Sign of the Times.


The answer to your question is that fifteen pages worth of Orgers care.
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Reply #439 posted 05/07/09 1:07pm

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Damn.. Trent Reznor has gotten very arrogant. Check out this quote from here: http://www.twentyfourbit....vers-cuomo

"I’m not Prince or Rivers Cuomo who brags about having hundreds of great songs,” Reznor said. “And to that I would say, Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you’ve put out because your last several have sucked. Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know.”


You know, I don't even know who this Trent Reznor is and frankly, I do not care.
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Reply #440 posted 05/07/09 1:10pm

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stanleylieber said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks?

I mean, that guy has been producing the same old, self-lamenting 'industrial pap'for years and years.

Prince might not be as strong as he used to be, but Trent hasnt released anything that quality-wise and in terms of influence comes even close to the albums 1999 or Sign of the Times.


The answer to your question is that fifteen pages worth of Orgers care.

Oh but none of us released 1999 [insert LPAB logic here....]

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Reply #441 posted 05/07/09 1:12pm

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can we get a few more declarations of not caring in this thread please
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Reply #442 posted 05/07/09 1:16pm

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stanleylieber said:

can we get a few more declarations of not caring in this thread please

*LPAB ALERT*
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Reply #443 posted 05/07/09 1:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Purplestar88 said:

What point? Trent is not a bad artist but he is not all that to be dissing people or telling them what to put on a record. Prince is not obligated to release any thing from his vault and I don't believe Prince has ever braged about the vault. The vault belongs to Prince not to Trent or the fans. Whatever Prince does with the vault is his decision, not Trent or the fans.

People want the vault songs but what happens if these songs don't meet some of the expections that people want to place on it. What happens then? I would to hear the some of the vault songs but I will demand Prince to do so. That is not right.


There seems to be some expectation that folks will be receiving access to vault material on lotus. Anyone know if Prince or his site or the emails from lotus set that expectation?


I vaguely remember reading somewhere around here, right before the official launch, an article that I think was about one of the site designers and there was a "might, maybe, don't quote me on it but do print it" kind of a hint at there "possibly" being 7 cd's of never before released material available through the site. It's never been mentioned again, so yeah...you know.
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Reply #444 posted 05/07/09 1:17pm

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Actually, since none of us are Grammy winning pop musicians, we're not really qualified to not care.
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Reply #445 posted 05/07/09 1:17pm

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stanleylieber said:

Actually, since none of us are Grammy winning pop musicians, we're not really qualified to not care.

I love Carousels cloud9

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Reply #446 posted 05/07/09 1:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


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I'm going back on the couch now. 14 pages goodness gracious! Y'all keep it up now ya hear! lol kfc pepsi couch

You guys can't resist the aroma either lol wink



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Reply #447 posted 05/07/09 1:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

stanleylieber said:

can we get a few more declarations of not caring in this thread please

*LPAB ALERT*




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Reply #448 posted 05/07/09 1:20pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Purplestar88 said:

Trent dissing Prince is a big joke. lol Trent can never touch Prince, music wise.
The org never fails.
If Prince was to diss another artist like Trent did, some people here would be ready to boil him up like the rabbit in fatal attraction.
But Trent is doing the dissing, so it's ok. Why? oh, oh, he can diss people because he is so"undergound". lol


Oh please! Prince released a song dissing US and we thought it was the funkiest thing he'd done in years and said as much, so why would we be ready to boil him for dissing somebody else? rolleyes

I am not talking about a song dissing the US. I am talking about if Prince would diss another artist. If Prince was to really let loose and diss the beloved Trent or who ever people in here think is better than Prince, some people in here, would be dissing Prince left to right. Simple as that.
When some people don't like a song in here, they act like they want to put Prince on a skillet.
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Reply #449 posted 05/07/09 1:22pm

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Purplestar88 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



Oh please! Prince released a song dissing US and we thought it was the funkiest thing he'd done in years and said as much, so why would we be ready to boil him for dissing somebody else? rolleyes

I am not talking about a song dissing the US. I am talking about if Prince would diss another artist. If Prince was to really let loose and diss the beloved Trent or who ever people in here think is better than Prince, some people in here, would be dissing Prince left to right. Simple as that.
When some people don't like a song in here, they act like they want to put Prince on a skillet.


But have you played 21 consecutive nights in London?

I didn't think so.
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