Anxiety said:

Especially since they are at a Nine Inch Nails concert!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Trent Reznor Swipes at Prince, Rivers Cuomo in Fan Interview
Rollingstone

Someone needs to give newly engaged rocker Trent Reznor his own talk show. After blasting Chris Cornell’s Timbaland-produced album Scream on Twitter in March, and even staging an elaborate April Fool’s hoax at the former Soundgarden and Audioslave frontman’s expense, the brains behind Nine Inch Nails is at it again, making more well-known frenemies through his online efforts.

In a recent Digg-related interview, Reznor answered fan questions, then he did a follow-up to respond to 10 more queries from his message board, reports TwentyFourBit. When asked whether there was a stockpile of unreleased NIN material, Reznor set his sights on Prince and Weezer’s frontman. “I’m not Prince or Rivers Cuomo, who brags about having hundreds of great songs,” Reznor replied. “And to that I would say, ‘Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you’ve put out, because your last several have sucked.’ Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know.”

Next, Reznor sort of reflected on his words and snickered, adding, “I may be happy and engaged but I can still be a prick.” This is the first time Reznor has publicly acknowledged his engagement to West Indian Girl’s Mariqueen Maandig.

Since fulfilling his contract with Interscope and becoming a free agent in October 2007, Reznor has communicated directly with fans via blog posts, Twitters and message-board chats almost exclusively. While still under contract in May 2007 Trent blogged about the record biz misunderstanding fans and overpricing albums. In March 2009, he instructed fans not to buy tickets from scalpers and criticized the secondary-ticket market. Earlier this week, Reznor angrily posted on the NIN message board when his iPhone application update was rejected by Apple: “You can buy The Downward Fucking Spiral on iTunes, but you can’t allow an iPhone app that may have a song with a bad word somewhere in it.”

In March, Reznor updated his more than 40,000 Twitter disciples with a pithy review of Cornell’s album, which sees the rocker trading in his guitar for a sampler. “You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell’s record? Jesus,” he wrote.

On April 1st, Reznor added salt to the wound, announcing on his Website that a new Tim-helmed Nails album, called Strobe Light, was on the way, and that it would include the songs “Everybody’s Doing It” (featuring Coldplay’s Chris Martin, Bono and Jay-Z), “Coffin On the Dancefloor,” “Even Closer” (featuring guest spots by Justin Timberlake and Tool’s Maynard James Keenan), “Laid, Paid and Played” (with Fergie and Ministry’s Al Jourgensen) and “Still Hurts,” which boasts a duet with Alicia Keys.

I'm fixing to pop Ghosts in my ride..



yay

Sadly, if this came down to a battle between Prince and Reznor, as to who could create the most throwdown song I'd bet on Reznor. As a 30 year fan it's horrifying to even type that but I think he'd win.

The only way to get Prince to drop a musically driven track is if he's trying to put down his own fans (PFUNK). Maybe he'd win trying to put down Trent but how sad that it has to come to that for Prince to be Prince again.

Trent is simply echoing what fans have been thinking for quite sometime. Prince's post-80s output runs the gamut from inspired to shockingly mediocre. Will he follow through and offer previously unreleased and rare songs on Lotusflow3r.com? The quick answer is no. Lotusflow3r.com is an enticing
rip- off that offers a $12 CD set and a flea market t-shirt for $77.

BartVanHemelen said:

the doo doo drew in the fly.

PEJ said:

don't think we don't notice your lack of argument

you know, the problem that I have is not that Trent criticizes prince, but that he has nothing insightful to say.

A musician of his caliber should be able to give a pretty interesting critique of Prince's music and I'd actually like to read that. But just to say it sucks serves no purpose.

If he'd explain specifically what bothers him, or what aspects of Prince's music he does like, it might be something that someone could use. As Prince says himself, anyone is qualified to criticize his music, but what is he supposed to to with "it sucks" as a suggestion?

How about saying: "the line about lassoing a rope around the moon doesn't really make sense because you're using a figurative phrase, but using it as if you literally did such a thing." That's a valid criticism. And it's more useful than if I said "Ur Gonna C me sucks."

Copycat said:

I don't see why this is so bad?


I mean, nobody complains when Prince points out the obvious. He's made snips at Britney Spears, etc. before.

Trent may use dirtier language, but damn.... he's entitled to his opinion.


I think the the lotusflow3r project was great though as far as the music is concerned. The website sucks...but it's Prince. The website always sucks, which is why we should appreciate the org.

NDRU said:

The lack of specificity about songs does not negate his point though

PEJ said:

I'm going back on the couch now. 14 pages goodness gracious! Y'all keep it up now ya hear!

purplecam said:

You guys can't resist the aroma either

Rogue588 said:

When Planet Earth came out, it debuted at #3 on Billboard 200. It sold about 96,000 copies in the first week. By October '07, it totaled roughly 298,000 copies in the US. Not so bad, considering the promotion was minimal, except for the Verizon V-Cast ad in the US.

Just sayin'.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Purplecam is munching on a chicken thigh right now. Yum Yum!

purplecam said:

Eventually that's gonna come out your backside so you share something in common with the doo doo people!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

No, and he has every right to say it of course. But when anyone says stuff like that "Planet Earth is a standing pool of dinosaur semen" it doesn't amount to much for me. They might even be right, but it doesn't interest me to read reviews like that.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So do you and the doo doo. I'm still eating my chicken thigh thank you very much.
[Edited 5/7/09 12:01pm]

BorisFishpaw said:

Very true. Every fan has said basically the same thing. That whole "too good to release" nonsense is a cover for one of two things. Either Prince can't release it because he doesn't have control over it, or he's just an idiot about his past, refusing to live in the past, etc (yes his homage to himself on MPLSound seems to negate that whole mantra of the early 00's.)



NPGMC year 1 could have been a LOT more. No one cared about the
HIGH album. Where was the OTHER Revolution stuff? "Splash" was a poor example of a Revolution era outtake. While I'm glad to have it, it's worthless compared to what's sitting back there. It was nice listening to the Parade shows, but we've heard them anyway. NPGMC year one could have been nothing short of spectacular, but alas..... we have "Sex In My Bones" and "Props and Pounds" to enjoy instead. BLECH. So much for "downloading music right to your computer" and his "Free The Music" chant of over 10 years ago.

NDRU said:

but it wasn't a review, it was an offhand comment in an interview that pertained to the larger discussion

NDRU said:

Understood. I'm all for deconstructing something on a musical basis. In a 10 minute interview I doubt he has the time to get into a musical thesis If Given the time and the chance, I have no doubt he could.

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stanleylieber said:

I know, I know

NDRU said:

He's talking about putting out good songs, and people bragging they have songs that remain unreleased. He's not writing a critique column for Rolling Stone. His insight was "If you have all these great songs, put some on a CD and release them!" If Prince really likes critique from fans, CONSTRUCTIVE critique, as he stated on Tavis Smiley's show, then he'd shut up and listen to Trent.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

yes, and we're all making too big a deal out of it. But look at prince. He says these things about 8 presidents before washington & contrails & human genomes and doesn't explain them. WTF is he talking about, and why mention them at all? Just throwing stuff out there without backing it up is like giving an F.U. for no good reason.

"but I support their right to do so..."

NDRU said:

I know everyone ignores my posts in this forum, but can somebody explain this 8 preceding presidents nonsense?

So i guess Trent picked up a copy of MNPLSOUND at Target.

Imago said:

In short: The white man is a devilish trickster, etc.

Slightly longer version: The Continental Congress elected Presidents to preside over itself, prior to the establishment of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...l_congress

Prince apparently wasn't taught about this in high school. Apparently, finding out that the Continental Congress existed made him want to "slap somebody."

ernestsewell said:

but it's not constructive criticism. saying it sucks is just an opinion.

and suggesting that a person release an album of GOOD songs is not much of an insight

ernestsewell said:

OK, was it Gentlemen's Esquire that he posed for the Versace shots and gave an interview during the Battle with WB and talking about his upcoming project Emancipation?

I can't be the only one who remembers reading this but he said something to the effect that People weren't ready for the music he was creating on Emancipation.

Let's face the facts folks. Emancipation, as much as I love most of it, is nothing that anybody couldn't be ready for especially Prince fans. So his saying the same thing now totally rings hollow for me.

PUT UP

OR

SHUT UP

NDRU said:

Chem trails?

Prince thinks he's clever. And on playing guitar, or writing a funny or deep lyric, he is clever. But his information is always half-ass (just like they accused his funk of being circa 1987). Prince wants to be some great prognosticator of knowledge. Some think he's a prophet . He's neither of those things.

He mentions these things, and it's like a moment to those in the know. Let's face it, he was ing at Larry Graham through the stauros rant, etc back then. He thinks if he drops a bit of information that his fans will go research it, find what he's found and believe him. "Ooohhh, he was right!" Of course those are the same folks who believe he's a God sent prophet for our generation.

Prince is a big conspiracy theorist, this is no recent realization on our part. But as I've said before, HE believes what he says, and to him, it's just as natural as breathing. To us, he's cah-razy!

Remember "Time is a trick. How many birthdays did you have? One! If you count, you get old. If we were never told we'd die, we'd live longer." Yeah, Prince. How's that hip, by the way? Just make the music, son!