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Thread started 05/03/09 11:54pm

eaglebear4839

From the Lotus Flower (Ssh...)

From the Lotus Flower seems like it may have been inspired by this song:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...lAYwYtvoX8
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Reply #1 posted 05/04/09 12:42am

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Yep.
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/09 12:55am

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Does anyone know if Prince owns or was been given any other Artist music?


inspired? its more like a faxed copy.... lol
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Reply #3 posted 05/04/09 11:47am

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INSPIRATION - it's what makes the world go round.
a "true gift" is meant to be given, how one interprets it for himself, and what flows out of him from his own gift, is a "gift" unto itself. True gifts from God keep on giving. We are not meant to be a island unto ourselfs. Prince,Miles Davis, Stevie Wonder, me and you for that matter, wouldn't be who we are without the divine gifts of others,which produce - INSPIRATION.
And thats all i have to say about that! biggrin

Peace and love always.

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Reply #4 posted 05/04/09 12:29pm

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Miles, such a beautiful person & talent.

How can 1 not b influenc3d by such a teacher?
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Reply #5 posted 05/04/09 12:48pm

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eaglebear4839 said:

From the Lotus Flower seems like it may have been inspired by this song:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...lAYwYtvoX8

Good one.....
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Reply #6 posted 05/04/09 12:51pm

2elijah

Does sound a bit like it.
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Reply #7 posted 05/04/09 12:58pm

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Graycap23 said:

eaglebear4839 said:

From the Lotus Flower seems like it may have been inspired by this song:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...lAYwYtvoX8

Good one.....

And people wonder why Prince fans have such high standards. We have good ears! lol
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Reply #8 posted 05/04/09 1:21pm

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falloff Inspired? Yeah...that's a real nice way of putting it. lol
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #9 posted 05/04/09 3:50pm

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music

What goes around sure does come around.....

nod biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 05/04/09 5:06pm

Tame

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Both are great songs... cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #11 posted 05/04/09 5:10pm

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Tame said:

Both are great songs... cool

chicken or the egg? lol
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Reply #12 posted 05/04/09 5:29pm

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'From the Lotus Flower' reminds me of the last 3 minutes of Rainbow Children and the last few moments of The Undertaker album.
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/09 1:39am

eaglebear4839

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

falloff Inspired? Yeah...that's a real nice way of putting it. lol


I actually meant that in earnest. Hearing Ssh also reminded me a bit of the final part of the title track to The Rainbow Children. The whole jazz fusion vibe by Miles - I totally get that this was where his ears were.
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Reply #14 posted 05/05/09 4:39am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

falloff Inspired? Yeah...that's a real nice way of putting it. lol


So, you're implying its a steal? A rip? How so?

The melody is not the same. The bass is not the same. The rhythm is not the same. The instrumentation is not the same.

These 2 tracks and HUNDREDS of others sound similar....but are not the same, steals or rips. It is great, soulful, jazz music and there is a lot of that about....doesn't mean all these artists are copying or stealing from each other....just exploring a similar genre of music.
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/09 10:12am

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Mindflux said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

falloff Inspired? Yeah...that's a real nice way of putting it. lol


So, you're implying its a steal? A rip? How so?

The melody is not the same. The bass is not the same. The rhythm is not the same. The instrumentation is not the same.

These 2 tracks and HUNDREDS of others sound similar....but are not the same, steals or rips. It is great, soulful, jazz music and there is a lot of that about....doesn't mean all these artists are copying or stealing from each other....just exploring a similar genre of music.


I just said that was a nice way of putting it and you rant on what I'm implying yet somebody else on this thread flat out called it a "faxed copy" and you've got nothing about that. You don't-let-mean-ol-Hatrina-pick-on-poor-lil-Prince folks are too funny! falloff
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/09 12:51pm

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TheNewWatcher2 said:

Miles, such a beautiful person & talent.

How can 1 not b influenc3d by such a teacher?





I am muse 2 the pharaoh..
I'm waiting 4 u.....prince...
I am waiting.....
lurking
Come b inspired.....
Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning
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Reply #17 posted 05/05/09 1:00pm

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it's got the same kaleidodelica jazz vivrance ..but like the lotus i could barely hack a few seconds & then decided 2 skip.
it don't mean i love p any less razz
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Reply #18 posted 05/05/09 1:06pm

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TheNewWatcher2 said:

Miles, such a beautiful person & talent.

How can 1 not b influenc3d by such a teacher?


Indeed... biggrin
One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away. rolleyes
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/09 8:17pm

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eaglebear4839 said:

From the Lotus Flower seems like it may have been inspired by this song:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...lAYwYtvoX8




it sounds kinda backwards the first have,,like its playing bacwards..but beautiful..i loove Mile Davis' music,,as well as john coltraine and Duke Ellington...there is one i love
in a sentimental mood
This piece that you mention..is vivid...technicolor...hmmmm
hmmm
Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning
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Reply #20 posted 05/05/09 9:12pm

jill4life

Nice comparison. Prince's unique interpretation of tradditional jazz rythms, instruments and tempos works nicely on From the Lotus; of course Miles will lead with trumpet while Prince, guitar. Jazz is ambiguous.
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Reply #21 posted 05/05/09 9:32pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Mindflux said:



So, you're implying its a steal? A rip? How so?

The melody is not the same. The bass is not the same. The rhythm is not the same. The instrumentation is not the same.

These 2 tracks and HUNDREDS of others sound similar....but are not the same, steals or rips. It is great, soulful, jazz music and there is a lot of that about....doesn't mean all these artists are copying or stealing from each other....just exploring a similar genre of music.


I just said that was a nice way of putting it and you rant on what I'm implying yet somebody else on this thread flat out called it a "faxed copy" and you've got nothing about that. You don't-let-mean-ol-Hatrina-pick-on-poor-lil Prince folks are too funny! falloff


takes one to know one
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Reply #22 posted 05/06/09 4:26am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Mindflux said:



So, you're implying its a steal? A rip? How so?

The melody is not the same. The bass is not the same. The rhythm is not the same. The instrumentation is not the same.

These 2 tracks and HUNDREDS of others sound similar....but are not the same, steals or rips. It is great, soulful, jazz music and there is a lot of that about....doesn't mean all these artists are copying or stealing from each other....just exploring a similar genre of music.


I just said that was a nice way of putting it and you rant on what I'm implying yet somebody else on this thread flat out called it a "faxed copy" and you've got nothing about that. You don't-let-mean-ol-Hatrina-pick-on-poor-lil-Prince folks are too funny! falloff


So, now you're backtracking, huh?

I didn't feel I needed to quote the "faxed copy" statement, which was a more ridiculous statement than yours, as my post alluded to the general points made about apparent copying.

This isn't about "picking on Prince"....its about about solid, qualitative analysis of what's before you - and those that hear "copying" in 2-pieces of music whose main similarity is simply style, either have a prejudiced agenda, no real appreciation of the finesse of music, or just need your ears cleaning (or, of course, all the above).
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...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

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