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PrintableMrSoulpower said: Graycap23 said: Co-sign. Then show me one, just one, influential or important or at least very good Jazz album which was recorded by just one musician, playing all instruments. Just one.  Important? The ONLY thing that counts when purchasing ANY record is if the BUYER likes it. | |
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what is jazz?  | |
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dilwithers said: what is jazz?
Some people here claim that Madhouse 8 and 16 is Jazz. 
I guess that can be a matter of interpretation. If it's mean to be Jazz, it isn't a very good shot at it. According to the dictionary, Jazz is this: A. style of music, native to America, characterized by a strong but flexible rhythmic understructure with solo and ensemble improvisations on basic tunes and chord patterns and, more recently, a highly sophisticated harmonic idiom. b. Big band dance music. | |
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Graycap23 said: MrSoulpower said: Then show me one, just one, influential or important or at least very good Jazz album which was recorded by just one musician, playing all instruments. Just one. Important? The ONLY thing that counts when purchasing ANY record is if the BUYER likes it. Well yeah, but especially in the Jazz genre, it is important to the legacy of an album how other Jazz musicians and critics rate it. In the end it's up to the buyer if he/she likes it or not. But the buyer doesn't define the musical direction of the album. | |
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bboy87 said: ThreadBare said: And, I'd love for you to tell me where you think P stacks among jazz artists and producers like Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Russell Malone, Christian McBride, Joshua Redmon, Dennis Chambers, Meshell Ndegeocello, Marcus Miller, Terence Blanchard and Birelli Lagene...
pulls up a chair next to ThreadBare and waits for answer  | |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: pulls up a chair next to ThreadBare and waits for answer  | |
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Like everything else about Prince, I will only believe it when I'm actually listening to it.
I do hope it happens though. It would be brilliant. | |
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tat2s said: Why is no one excited about this?? I hope that when it comes out it creeps into the grammy's like that time that Tony Bennett won album of the year and took it from all the kiddie performers
  
Jazz is where Prince should stay from now On... the pop crap/elevator music he's doing needs to go... he should stick to funk/r&b/rock/Jazz Same goes for Mariah, but she's such a stupid air-head she has no clue (thats another subject)  Anita Baker is perfect for jazz.  But Prince?!? NAY!!!  I rather of him to play funk, rock, & electronic only.  | |
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Moving to the P: M&M forum 
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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moderatorWell, "Sweet Love", I'm "caught up in the rapture", and "I'm giving you the best that I got"... Um... let me warm up my vocals
Me ME ME ME ME...U U U U U! | |
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I would love 2 hear Prince and Anita Baker put a jazzy collection 2gether...It could only be great. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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dilwithers said: what is jazz?
The one thing U can say about Jazz, whether it be beautiful Piano, Sax, Bass,Guitar, Percussion or Vocals, is that it is Mellowing...in a peaceful way. Jazz is always pretty. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Tame said: dilwithers said: what is jazz?
The one thing U can say about Jazz, whether it be beautiful Piano, Sax, Bass,Guitar, Percussion or Vocals, is that it is Mellowing...in a peaceful way. Jazz is always pretty. Ever heard of Ornette Coleman?  | |
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ThreadBare said: Link, please, to confirm this.
And, I'm not sure this would be a good pairing. Anita's productions tend to have a warmth and sophistication to them that I don't see Prince being able to replicate in a way that'd be true to her sound. To that end, I think Prince should stay far away from jazz. He's a great musician but he's a far way from being a jazz master. [Edited 4/29/09 22:39pm] Indeed! I agree 100%. He needs to stick to what he knows-funk, rock and pop. Jazz-not so much. | |
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MrSoulpower said: dilwithers said: maybe. see how easy it is to say "maybe" or "I think"? 
I think if you can have an extremely stale "jazz" track with a group of musicians you can have a good one with just one musician and where did you come up with that definition for "jazz"?  Jazz History 101, back in College.
Yes, you can have a stale track with a group of musicians. But once again, the essence of Jazz is improvisation. And when you record a track on your own, playing all instruments, you limit down improvisation - unless you can play at least four instruments simultaneously (even then it would be boring because the song would lack the creative input of multiple personalities). For that very reason you find very, very few Jazz albums recorded by just one artist (even though many Jazz musicians are multi-instrumentalists). It takes the live out of the song. Exactly. Jazz would be useless and boring as shit without a group of other musicians. Improvisation wouldn't exist and be as powerful without those other musicians. Everybody feeds off of each other. "What you lose in the fire, you will find in the ashes." -Creole Proverb | |
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Tame said: I would love 2 hear Prince and Anita Baker put a jazzy collection 2gether...It could only be great.
me 2 its going to be marvelous | |
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Way to jump to conclusions! | |
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OMG, I can't stand people talking as if jazz was invented by Diana Krall. People, what we're told as "jazz music" today on the radio, it isn't jazz at all. I don't mean Diana Krall's music is any bad, in fact, it's nice to hear it on the background while you're drinking a sweet cocktail in a refreshment stall in Copacabana...
We all should learn more about music and music history and aesthetics before talking bullshit. It's okay to share your impressions or opinions about some music even if you don't know any technical aspect, but i just can't stand when people try to insist too much in what they think it's the definitive truth, without having researched enough. Peace and be wild! | |
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MrSoulpower said: Graycap23 said: Co-sign. Then show me one, just one, influential or important or at least very good Jazz album which was recorded by just one musician, playing all instruments. Just one. 
Go get it. It'll bless ya. | |
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tat2s said: ThreadBare said: And, I'd love for you to tell me where you think P stacks among jazz artists and producers like Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Russell Malone, Christian McBride, Joshua Redmon, Dennis Chambers, Meshell Ndegeocello, Marcus Miller, Terence Blanchard and Birelli Lagene...
boi I will bitch slap u  imma really call the admins now!!! admins!!! admins!!! admins!!!!Get a couple of licks in for me>>>>>   Prince's Sarah | |
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mzsadii said: tat2s said: boi I will bitch slap u imma really call the admins now!!! admins!!! admins!!! admins!!!!Get a couple of licks in for me>>>>> thanks for answering my question. | |
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My prediction:
There will be 2 'Jazz' albums, more than likely without Anita, and these will be passed off as the exclusive content on Lotusflow3r.com. ...Déjà vu, anyone? | |
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JazzZzZZZz ?
Oh nooooo Prince 4Ever.  | |
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This is cool, opens a whole new genre/spectrum. Geeze, let him breath a little.
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There's jazz.
Wes Montgomery the legendary jazz guitarist: Round Midnight http://www.youtube.com/wa...Om17yw__6U Miles Davis & John Coltrane A Love Supreme http://www.youtube.com/wa...5nVizoi_1Y Keith Jarrett I Loves You Porgy http://www.youtube.com/wa...3D8Ri84hmw (sooooo cute -- this video for the ladies had to include it.) Dinah Washington Is You Is or Is You Aint My Baby http://www.youtube.com/wa...DgtxUyKGOw For those that don't know jazz, just a few to get ya'll by. | |
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luv4u said: Moving to the P: M&M forum
CUE the die hards tells us that Prince IS Jazz!!!!  | |
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MrSoulpower said: The one thing U can say about Jazz, whether it be beautiful Piano, Sax, Bass,Guitar, Percussion or Vocals, is that it is Mellowing...in a peaceful way. Jazz is always pretty. 
http://www.youtube.com/wa...aK-8bcsx-I http://www.youtube.com/wa...xylGncz_DU http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related Yeah, it's sort of pretty indeed. I guess. [Edited 4/30/09 23:05pm] | |
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Anita's album will probably go as far as Chaka's did in 98. Don't get me wrong, I dug that album when it came out, but Prince has a little bit of a green thumb of sorts, when it comes to music he doesn't make.
errant said: tat2s said: Why is no one excited about this?? I hope that when it comes out it creeps into the grammy's like that time that Tony Bennett won album of the year and took it from all the kiddie performers
Jazz is where Prince should stay from now On... the pop crap/elevator music he's doing needs to go... he should stick to funk/r&b/rock/Jazz Same goes for Mariah, but she's such a stupid air-head she has no clue (thats another subject) oh yeah, because Prince's idea of jazz in 2009 is Elixer and Bria's album is setting the whole damn world on fire isn't it? 
and his jazz offerings earlier this decade (C-NOTE, Xpectation, NEWS) were the EPITOME of elevator music. pleasant, well-played elevator music, but still... | |
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tat2s said: Why is no one excited about this?? I hope that when it comes out it creeps into the grammy's like that time that Tony Bennett won album of the year and took it from all the kiddie performers
Jazz is where Prince should stay from now On... the pop crap/elevator music he's doing needs to go... he should stick to funk/r&b/rock/Jazz Same goes for Mariah, but she's such a stupid air-head she has no clue (thats another subject) Mariah???? What the F are you talking about. She ain't got no jazz chops! [Edited 5/1/09 0:43am] | |
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jill4life said: There's jazz.
Wes Montgomery the legendary jazz guitarist: Round Midnight http://www.youtube.com/wa...Om17yw__6U Miles Davis & John Coltrane A Love Supreme http://www.youtube.com/wa...5nVizoi_1Y Keith Jarrett I Loves You Porgy http://www.youtube.com/wa...3D8Ri84hmw (sooooo cute -- this video for the ladies had to include it.) Dinah Washington Is You Is or Is You Aint My Baby http://www.youtube.com/wa...DgtxUyKGOw For those that don't know jazz, just a few to get ya'll by. Yes, this is jazz!!! Instructions for viewing these clips: Forget that everything is relative to Prince. or Imagine that Prince's music does not exist (I know, this might be a stretch for some of you) Watch each video a few times. Let it sink in. Let me know how that works out for you. | |
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