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Reply #30 posted 04/30/09 10:14pm

Huggiebear

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Also too the Camille Album with all the remixes and Ol Skool Company for good measure.

1. Good Love
2. Strange Relationship
3. If eye was your girlfriend
4. U got the Look
5. Housequake
6. Rockhard in a funky place
7. Cindy C
8. La La La Hee Hee
9. Shockadelica
10. Scarlet Pussy
11. Ol Skool Company

At least 5 more mixes and alternative versions

And anything else I have foolheartedly 4 got to mention
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Reply #31 posted 04/30/09 11:40pm

eaglebear4839

Ummm...none of them. Let the record companies do that after he's gone.
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Reply #32 posted 05/01/09 5:00am

vinx98

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how about a proper "rock" album from the annuls of history

chaos and disorder
i like it there
Dinner with Delores
Same December
Right the Wrong
Zannalee
Boom
Crimson and Clover
Colonized Mind
Dreamer
She Loves Me 4 Me
Family Name
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Reply #33 posted 05/01/09 6:06am

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I would love to see 1999 and P.R remastersted with the outtakes includes. There was so much wonderful music in these 3 years that I would love to see that stuff finally get out of the vault. The 100 songs he wrote for the movie would be cool to see come alive.
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Reply #34 posted 05/01/09 6:24am

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Riverpoet31 said:

It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.

Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument.
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Reply #35 posted 05/01/09 9:32am

optimus

udo said:

Riverpoet31 said:

It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.

Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument.


define = THEY SOUND FUCKING SHIT ON CD .....hope that helps lol only joking!...but they do sound shit you cant hardly hear what hes saying on alot of songs nod
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #36 posted 05/01/09 9:57am

udo

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optimus said:

udo said:


Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument.


define = THEY SOUND FUCKING SHIT ON CD .....hope that helps lol only joking!...but they do sound shit you cant hardly hear what hes saying on alot of songs nod

At least I want to make clear that remastering != compressing, limiting and turning up the volume way too high so it sounds like a modern record.
I mean that loudness during remastering has to be adjusted with moderation.

Also: when you can't hear the man, turn up the stereo.
Maybe it was intentional in some cases? I mean: even back then they knew how to put music on vinyl and CD's. It's just that the modus operandi has gradually changed.

Also be aware that when a remaster is done from the original multitrack tapes and stuff like you mention is 'corrected' the whole character of a song can go overboard if not handled well.
So I hope that P can find someone to do it right during his lifetime or that perhaps his estate, after his demise, can do a proper job.
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Reply #37 posted 05/01/09 6:15pm

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udo said:

Riverpoet31 said:

It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.

Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument.


It means Susan Rogers had the volume knob on low when she was recording Prince at the time. You can notice it on an ipod shuffle, the volume goes down when a SOTT track comes on, even For You sounds better.
[Edited 5/1/09 18:16pm]
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Reply #38 posted 05/01/09 10:33pm

udo

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Huggiebear said:

udo said:


Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument.


It means Susan Rogers had the volume knob on low when she was recording Prince at the time. You can notice it on an ipod shuffle, the volume goes down when a SOTT track comes on, even For You sounds better.

It depends on how the recording setup was, how experienced the engineer was and what they intended to achieve, etc. Maybe Susan recorded to slightly different tape than P did, maybe she wanted a certain effect with the analogue tape, maybe she did not compress her audio as much as P did.
But P liked it and released it.
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Reply #39 posted 05/02/09 2:36am

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It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.

SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD.
Hence it could do with a CD remastering.
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Reply #40 posted 05/02/09 3:24am

LilCub

This would have to be my last ever wish of Prince. Remaster and re release everything from 78-90. Just so we can hear them in exceptional quality and the way they were intended.

Imagine all those roylaties Prince - and we all know you love the $$$ as much as the music
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Reply #41 posted 05/02/09 3:35am

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REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....

Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there ....

A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com

Amen
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Reply #42 posted 05/02/09 6:49am

udo

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BorisFishpaw said:

It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.

SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD.
Hence it could do with a CD remastering.

The recording is the first step of the process.
As we don't have vinyl nort the player over here comparison is hard to make.
Does the CD set ever get close to 0dBFS?
I guess so. Please verify.
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Reply #43 posted 05/02/09 8:02am

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udo said:

BorisFishpaw said:

It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.

SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD.
Hence it could do with a CD remastering.

The recording is the first step of the process.
As we don't have vinyl nort the player over here comparison is hard to make.
Does the CD set ever get close to 0dBFS?
I guess so. Please verify.


CD mastering was in it's infancy in the 1980s. There have been vast improvements in technology, as well as professionals entering the scene who are at the top of their game regarding proper digital mastering. As Boris said, the vinyl sounds great, so it's not a recording issue, as the 2-track masters were used for the CDs that have been reissued with the same sad craftsmanship. I don't think anyone is saying they want the multi-tracks fucked with.

Check out the Girl 6 Soundtrack and hear the potential of these recordings.
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Reply #44 posted 05/02/09 8:04am

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Electricity3121 said:

REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....

Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there ....

A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com

Amen


Couldn't agree more. Pot laced with PCP is always the way to go.
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Reply #45 posted 05/02/09 9:27am

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While I would prefer the entire 1978-1988 catalog remastered, the essential remasters would be:

1999
Purple Rain
SOTT

Not only are these 3 of his greatest albums, but I think these remasters would appeal to new fans as well.
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Reply #46 posted 05/02/09 10:04am

NuPwrSoul

The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.

Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #47 posted 05/02/09 11:19pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.

Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions.

What is wrong with Lovesexy?
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Reply #48 posted 05/03/09 3:31am

U4Eah

Sign O the Times with a dvd of the movie / live concert. DEF SOTT...
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Reply #49 posted 05/03/09 6:34am

NuPwrSoul

udo said:

NuPwrSoul said:

The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.

Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions.

What is wrong with Lovesexy?
'

there's a lot going on on those tracks (sounds like p was trying to use all 48tracks on the mixer) that the soundmix doesn't bring to life... that and the levels are mixed so low.
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Reply #50 posted 05/03/09 10:32pm

udo

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NuPwrSoul said:

udo said:


What is wrong with Lovesexy?
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there's a lot going on on those tracks (sounds like p was trying to use all 48tracks on the mixer) that the soundmix doesn't bring to life... that and the levels are mixed so low.

So low? I do think that Lovesexy does use all 16 bits.
If you think that by `turning up` (i.e.: compressing and limiting the sh*t out of the music) the audio will get better, that you will hear the details any better I do think that is not completely true.
If you want to change the mix to bring out the details you are making a different record.
Just turn up that stereo, if you dare.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #51 posted 05/03/09 10:33pm

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U4Eah said:

Sign O the Times with a dvd of the movie / live concert. DEF SOTT...

The movie is already out on DVD.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #52 posted 05/03/09 10:34pm

gravity

bored
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Reply #53 posted 05/03/09 11:08pm

rudeboy4711

Dirty Mind Remastered 1st disc:
Dirty Mind
When You Were Mine
Do It All Night
Gotta Broken Heart Again
Uptown
Head
Sister
Partyup

2nd Disc (Outtakes):
American Jam
Big Brass Bed
Bulgaria
Eros
I Don't Wanna Stop
Lisa
Rough
Plastic Love Affair
When the Shit Comes Down
Gotta Stop (Messin' About)

drooling
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Reply #54 posted 05/04/09 1:03am

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rudeboy4711 said:

Dirty Mind Remastered 1st disc:
Dirty Mind
When You Were Mine
Do It All Night
Gotta Broken Heart Again
Uptown
Head
Sister
Partyup

2nd Disc (Outtakes):
American Jam
Big Brass Bed
Bulgaria
Eros
I Don't Wanna Stop
Lisa
Rough
Plastic Love Affair
When the Shit Comes Down
Gotta Stop (Messin' About)

drooling


dirty mind remastered? now that's something I would buy!
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Reply #55 posted 05/04/09 6:27am

udo

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gravity said:

bored

If you can't post some facts...
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Reply #56 posted 05/04/09 7:32am

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Hey, Prince! I'm so glad you've read this far into the thread! Now please go back to the beginning, and read it all again. There is wisdom here!

I know 'your only competition is yourself in the past', but it's time to start thinking about your legacy, man. And now that all eyes are on you, it's time to start reminding everyone why they fell in love with you in the first place.

Because the sad fact is, these albums sound like a fart in a jar.

So please swallow your pride, and get ready to make piles and piles of money...
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PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #57 posted 05/06/09 3:52am

MartyMcFly

squirrelgrease said:

Electricity3121 said:

REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....

Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there ....

A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com

Amen


Couldn't agree more. Pot laced with PCP is always the way to go.


lol
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