Also too the Camille Album with all the remixes and Ol Skool Company for good measure.
1. Good Love 2. Strange Relationship 3. If eye was your girlfriend 4. U got the Look 5. Housequake 6. Rockhard in a funky place 7. Cindy C 8. La La La Hee Hee 9. Shockadelica 10. Scarlet Pussy 11. Ol Skool Company At least 5 more mixes and alternative versions And anything else I have foolheartedly 4 got to mention So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Ummm...none of them. Let the record companies do that after he's gone. | |
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how about a proper "rock" album from the annuls of history
chaos and disorder i like it there Dinner with Delores Same December Right the Wrong Zannalee Boom Crimson and Clover Colonized Mind Dreamer She Loves Me 4 Me Family Name | |
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I would love to see 1999 and P.R remastersted with the outtakes includes. There was so much wonderful music in these 3 years that I would love to see that stuff finally get out of the vault. The 100 songs he wrote for the movie would be cool to see come alive. "
First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!" | |
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Riverpoet31 said: It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.
Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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udo said: Riverpoet31 said: It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.
Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument. define = THEY SOUND FUCKING SHIT ON CD .....hope that helps only joking!...but they do sound shit you cant hardly hear what hes saying on alot of songs Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul The steps U take are no easy road But the reward is great 4 those who want 2 go | |
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optimus said: udo said: Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument. define = THEY SOUND FUCKING SHIT ON CD .....hope that helps only joking!...but they do sound shit you cant hardly hear what hes saying on alot of songs At least I want to make clear that remastering != compressing, limiting and turning up the volume way too high so it sounds like a modern record. I mean that loudness during remastering has to be adjusted with moderation. Also: when you can't hear the man, turn up the stereo. Maybe it was intentional in some cases? I mean: even back then they knew how to put music on vinyl and CD's. It's just that the modus operandi has gradually changed. Also be aware that when a remaster is done from the original multitrack tapes and stuff like you mention is 'corrected' the whole character of a song can go overboard if not handled well. So I hope that P can find someone to do it right during his lifetime or that perhaps his estate, after his demise, can do a proper job. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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udo said: Riverpoet31 said: It are especially Parade and Sign of the Times that seem to be poorly mastered.
Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument. It means Susan Rogers had the volume knob on low when she was recording Prince at the time. You can notice it on an ipod shuffle, the volume goes down when a SOTT track comes on, even For You sounds better. [Edited 5/1/09 18:16pm] So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: udo said: Please define 'poorly mastered' before we get into an argument. It means Susan Rogers had the volume knob on low when she was recording Prince at the time. You can notice it on an ipod shuffle, the volume goes down when a SOTT track comes on, even For You sounds better. It depends on how the recording setup was, how experienced the engineer was and what they intended to achieve, etc. Maybe Susan recorded to slightly different tape than P did, maybe she wanted a certain effect with the analogue tape, maybe she did not compress her audio as much as P did. But P liked it and released it. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.
SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD. Hence it could do with a CD remastering. | |
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This would have to be my last ever wish of Prince. Remaster and re release everything from 78-90. Just so we can hear them in exceptional quality and the way they were intended.
Imagine all those roylaties Prince - and we all know you love the $$$ as much as the music | |
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REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....
Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there .... A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com Amen | |
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BorisFishpaw said: It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.
SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD. Hence it could do with a CD remastering. The recording is the first step of the process. As we don't have vinyl nort the player over here comparison is hard to make. Does the CD set ever get close to 0dBFS? I guess so. Please verify. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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udo said: BorisFishpaw said: It's got nothing to do with how it was recorded. It's purely a mastering issue.
SOTT sounds great on vinyl, but thin and somewhat quiet on CD. Hence it could do with a CD remastering. The recording is the first step of the process. As we don't have vinyl nort the player over here comparison is hard to make. Does the CD set ever get close to 0dBFS? I guess so. Please verify. CD mastering was in it's infancy in the 1980s. There have been vast improvements in technology, as well as professionals entering the scene who are at the top of their game regarding proper digital mastering. As Boris said, the vinyl sounds great, so it's not a recording issue, as the 2-track masters were used for the CDs that have been reissued with the same sad craftsmanship. I don't think anyone is saying they want the multi-tracks fucked with. Check out the Girl 6 Soundtrack and hear the potential of these recordings. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Electricity3121 said: REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....
Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there .... A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com Amen Couldn't agree more. Pot laced with PCP is always the way to go. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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While I would prefer the entire 1978-1988 catalog remastered, the essential remasters would be:
1999 Purple Rain SOTT Not only are these 3 of his greatest albums, but I think these remasters would appeal to new fans as well. | |
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The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.
Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said: The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.
Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions. What is wrong with Lovesexy? Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Sign O the Times with a dvd of the movie / live concert. DEF SOTT... | |
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udo said: NuPwrSoul said: The first two that immediately come to mind--not because of outtakes, etc.--are Sign o the Times and Lovesexy.
Both of those albums are in DIRE need of remastering because of the quality of the mixes on the available versions. What is wrong with Lovesexy? there's a lot going on on those tracks (sounds like p was trying to use all 48tracks on the mixer) that the soundmix doesn't bring to life... that and the levels are mixed so low. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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NuPwrSoul said: udo said: What is wrong with Lovesexy? there's a lot going on on those tracks (sounds like p was trying to use all 48tracks on the mixer) that the soundmix doesn't bring to life... that and the levels are mixed so low. So low? I do think that Lovesexy does use all 16 bits. If you think that by `turning up` (i.e.: compressing and limiting the sh*t out of the music) the audio will get better, that you will hear the details any better I do think that is not completely true. If you want to change the mix to bring out the details you are making a different record. Just turn up that stereo, if you dare. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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U4Eah said: Sign O the Times with a dvd of the movie / live concert. DEF SOTT...
The movie is already out on DVD. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Dirty Mind Remastered 1st disc:
Dirty Mind When You Were Mine Do It All Night Gotta Broken Heart Again Uptown Head Sister Partyup 2nd Disc (Outtakes): American Jam Big Brass Bed Bulgaria Eros I Don't Wanna Stop Lisa Rough Plastic Love Affair When the Shit Comes Down Gotta Stop (Messin' About) | |
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rudeboy4711 said: Dirty Mind Remastered 1st disc:
Dirty Mind When You Were Mine Do It All Night Gotta Broken Heart Again Uptown Head Sister Partyup 2nd Disc (Outtakes): American Jam Big Brass Bed Bulgaria Eros I Don't Wanna Stop Lisa Rough Plastic Love Affair When the Shit Comes Down Gotta Stop (Messin' About) dirty mind remastered? now that's something I would buy! | |
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gravity said: If you can't post some facts... Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Hey, Prince! I'm so glad you've read this far into the thread! Now please go back to the beginning, and read it all again. There is wisdom here!
I know 'your only competition is yourself in the past', but it's time to start thinking about your legacy, man. And now that all eyes are on you, it's time to start reminding everyone why they fell in love with you in the first place. Because the sad fact is, these albums sound like a fart in a jar. So please swallow your pride, and get ready to make piles and piles of money... [Edited 5/4/09 7:32am] | |
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squirrelgrease said: Electricity3121 said: REMASTERED is nothing like a gr8 ILL-usion.....
Go 2 the cinema and look the movie : THE KNOWING.....the truth is there .... A7 is coming soon on www.lotusflow3r.com Amen Couldn't agree more. Pot laced with PCP is always the way to go. | |
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