pplrain said: Imago said: Your threads are about as negative as they get. The only thing positive about you would probably be your hepatitis status. [Edited 4/27/09 1:18am] I think you should be more concerned about contracting hepatitis than me, given your lifestyle. Sad you're so retarded you can't see it. hey pplrain, can you link to some of your positive threads? it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: pplrain said: I think you should be more concerned about contracting hepatitis than me, given your lifestyle. Sad you're so retarded you can't see it. hey pplrain, can you link to some of your positive threads? Research it, I have quite a few positive threads about P's songs. | |
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yeah, but this thread is for linking to your positive stuff, so why are you here just to cause trouble? it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: yeah, but this thread is for linking to your positive stuff, so why are you here just to cause trouble?
Are you retarded as well? | |
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pplrain said: stanleylieber said: yeah, but this thread is for linking to your positive stuff, so why are you here just to cause trouble?
Are you retarded as well? real positive. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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your comments can get a party started, but i prefer comments with a blue aura. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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I call them haterz for what they are.. spewing hate all over this fansite.
Now all of a sudden they are offended by the term and want to be know as critics? Hell no, a turd is a turd. | |
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pplrain said: I call them haterz for what they are.. spewing hate all over this fansite.
Now all of a sudden they are offended by the term and want to be know as critics? Hell no, a turd is a turd. real positive. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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didn't you know? complaining only leaves you with a bitter heart. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: didn't you know? complaining only leaves you with a bitter heart.
I wasn't the one who started it.... and no I am not bitter. I am just pointing out that Prince is the one calling them out. It does not affect me one way or another. Get me now? | |
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pplrain said: stanleylieber said: didn't you know? complaining only leaves you with a bitter heart.
I wasn't the one who started it.... and no I am not bitter. I am just pointing out that Prince is the one calling them out. It does not affect me one way or another. Get me now? why don't you be the one to end it? you could try not participating in the hate. you're just spreading around the stain. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: pplrain said: I wasn't the one who started it.... and no I am not bitter. I am just pointing out that Prince is the one calling them out. It does not affect me one way or another. Get me now? why don't you be the one to end it? you could try not participating in the hate. you're just spreading around the stain. Why don't you direct your question to Imago? Ask him if he suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder. Sure looks like it. | |
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pplrain said: stanleylieber said: why don't you be the one to end it? you could try not participating in the hate. you're just spreading around the stain. Why don't you direct your question to Imago? Ask him if he suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder. Sure looks like it. because i'm trying to deal with your attempts to derail this thread. just give it a rest. you've only come here to cause trouble. there's no need for you to "prove" that someone is a hater. stop trolling. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: pplrain said: Why don't you direct your question to Imago? Ask him if he suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder. Sure looks like it. because i'm trying to deal with your attempts to derail this thread. just give it a rest. you've only come here to cause trouble. there's no need for you to "prove" that someone is a hater. stop trolling. You're the one posing the questions to me and telling me I'm trolling? Makes no sense as usual. | |
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pplrain said: stanleylieber said: because i'm trying to deal with your attempts to derail this thread. just give it a rest. you've only come here to cause trouble. there's no need for you to "prove" that someone is a hater. stop trolling. You're the one posing the questions to me and telling me I'm trolling? Makes no sense as usual. re-read the first post in this thread and ask yourself what you're contributing. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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greetings, supa. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: greetings, supa.
The weekend's over! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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PEJ said: I guess Supa takes the weekends off from the org. Or from his job where he orgs
Ladies and Gentlemen, SWEEP THE WOOL FROM YOUR EYES AND BEHOLD: http://prince.org/msg/7/292092 As recent as 5 months ago. And pertaining to Lotusflower material no less! And I quote (my responses in red): Post 222: calldapplwondery83 said: Ok, upon first listen I would say as songs they were nice, but not mindblowing. But the guitar masturbation was awesome!
Agree. This isn't the second coming but everything is solid and strong and made with total love. You can feel it Post 227 (in defense of 4Ever) CarrieLee said: Imago said: Every song was good.
It actually sounded like Prince was willing to impress people again. I haven't heard material this strong since The Gold Experience or . This everything 3121, PE, and Musicology should have been ... And that's just from the songs I just heard. I'm impressed. Except for that last song! N. O I bookmark all my threads, and sometimes I bookmark other people's threads that I really love and I didn't think I'd need to bookmark my praising the material that was unveiled on the radio for Lotusflower BUT I call to the Stand witness #1: Nothinbutjoy I can't find the exact thread right now (thought it was the one above) where I was glowing over the new material and just loving it. Nothinbutjoy said something to the effect that she loved seeing me like that, aka loving on Prince. Joy, please confirm! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Dayclear said: I'm not a hater, so I'll move on.....
Me either. Let's get some popcorn Dayclear. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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stanleylieber said: pplrain said: You're the one posing the questions to me and telling me I'm trolling? Makes no sense as usual. re-read the first post in this thread and ask yourself what you're contributing. Stanley! pplrain! Ok, carry on 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Also, I think Lotusflower is the Zenith compared to Musuckology. I DESPISE that album with the hottest of passions. Since I know fams are lazy, I won't just post the link but the POST where my head is far far up the Purple darkness:
http://prince.org/msg/12/87259 Let me start by telling you how improbable it was that I would be in the position to get my ass kicked in the first place. Because of $$$ issues, I was orignally going to go to the movie theater.....then unexpectedly my friend Krystina called with an extra ticket (Krystina I owe you big time!!! )
Unlike the other smaller venues where the first 15 rows were reserved for club members, this was more like a lotto situation. The seating was randomly selected and you really didn't know your seating until you got there. .We get to the will call area and our friends have their tickets and we ask about their seating. "Row 15"....."Row 10"....."Row 7". We thought that at least we knew we'd have pretty good seats. We get the tickets and it was like one of those scenes in a cartoon where the eyes come popping out of the head.....boiiioooiiiooooinggg! Row 2!. We hit the lotto big time!!!! Never having seen Prince in a large venue like Staples center (this is only my 4th concert: 1-Jam of The Year, 2-Hit & Run, 3-ONA, 4-Musicology). The energy was intoxicating. I Watched as the empty seats slowly but surely filled to the brim, and laughed to myself that some people couldn't believe Prince could still fill a large venue. We kinda walked around looking for friends and I did see Byron, Pej, Luv4ThePurple1, Mauve, Ursulasgirl, freaks I know from the Bumpsquad (LA fangroup) and others I've seen out at other events. It was great connecting with these people who have become like family. Then the show starts.....I won't go into reviewing each track, rather I wanted to just lay my feelings out about the experience. Thanks to Cusgibson for the tracklist The first part of the show consisted of the following: Musicology Let's Go Crazy I Would Die 4 U When Doves Cry Baby I'm A Star Shhh... DMSR A Love Bizarre / I Feel 4 U Controversy Having missed Prince in his prime and the concerts that little beast put on back in his heyday I really missed out on so many incredible moments. Let's Go Crazy ANDWhen Doves Cry! And a beautiful rendition of I Feel 4 U in the vein of the original. Never in my life did I ever think I'd get to hear DMSR and Controversy live. Never!!!! And yet there I was dancing my fuckin ass off....."Oooh. Uhhh. Alright. Dance, Music, Sex, Romance"....."People call me Rude, I wish we all were nude, I wish there were no black and white, I wish there were no rules" OK, I was practically fainting in my hysteria. Anyone who knows me personally can just picture my glee. You can picture it can't ya? There was a costume change right here: Renato medley / God (piano instrumental) Prince comes back out: The Beautiful Ones Nothing Compares 2 U Insatiable Sign 'O' The Times The Question Of U The One Let's Work U Got The Look Life 'O' The Party **NEW SONG** Soul Man (cover of classic by Sam & Dave) Kiss Take Me With U OK, now I think this is an excellent lineup of songs to satisfy the cross-section of fans from the casual fan who only know Prince from his standards "Kiss, When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette" to the fans who never left him in all the years he went through the symbol stage giving gems like Shhhh and the One. Like many fans, the ? of U holds such a special place in my heart. It was (and still is) a song that just touches way down to the core but it was spoiled for me. Actually, 3 songs were spoiled for me. Shhhh, The ? of U and Sign O' The Times. And when I say spoiled, I don't mean I didn't like them. I did. However, Prince already popped my cherry with these 3. First cherry poppin was at the LA screening of the Vegas DVD. Upon leaving the screening we were shocked to learN that Prince was playing Bebe Kings right there at Universal City Walk. It was there (in a literal shoebox) that Prince and the NPG launched into Shhhh. I flipped, because this was a song I never thought I'd hear live. As I stood there, tears welling up in my eyes i felt a hand grab mine and I look to see who grabbed it and this girl (Ursulasgirl) , who obviously saw the wild look in my eyes, simply mouthed the words "I know". She had wild eyes too It was a moment beyond compare. My 2nd cherry was popped at the recent LA press conference. He slammed me once again. He played Sign O' The Times and I was totally excited to hear it but honestly thought he was going to be played out on his old songs so I kinda didn't expect much. Then he just set out and proved that expectation to be completely wrong. He sang and played the guitar with as so much passion. Quite frankly it shocked me. Then he whips out ? of U into The One flawlessly back into the ? of U. Playing each with his whole heart. The fact that I got to hear these 3 gems in such intimate settings really were really just experiences I never thought I'd have. Several things hit me as I listened to this collection of hits. I realized how much Prince really lost touch with this music and with himself during the Symbol years and into the time period where his name was freshly reclaimed. Like I said, JOTY was my first concert and he played the hits but they were medleys. Same with the Hit & Run Tour. As I watched him play the LA show it was as if I was seeing a resurrected man. One who woke up out of a spell or one who had simply been body snatched and replaced with an imposter years ago and was now unsnatched. Comparing the way he played the "hits" during the Hit & Run tour and how he played them Monday is like comparing the weather on Mercury and Pluto. Another thing that hit me was the band. Now I haven't been blind to their ferociousness but damn!!! Each of these musicians is wicked on their instrument. This band is so tight and as much as Prince, they really helped to convey the amazingness of these songs. And the thing that hit me the hardest was seeing/listening/singing/dancing to these songs and having distant memories conjured up as fresh as if they had just happened. Thinking back to the days when I first listened to DMSR. The age of 11, where my normal day consisted of waking up in the mornings and with every fiber of my being agonizing over the fact that I had to go to school where I was bullied and tortured and called names and having to be in the world where there was no respite from the horrors that men and boys took pleasure in creating for me. And in that average day I would come from school to my aunts house and literally lock myself in my cousins closet with her portable tape player and just play the 1999 tape over and over until my mom came to pick us up to go home. No matter the horrors that I faced that day, I had that music, THAT MUSIC!!!. In the years that followed where I became a teen and a young adult it was the music of such amazing albums like Around the World In a Day, Parade, Sign & Lovesexy that always made me happy. Always. Other memories, like rediscovering the Controversy album as a young adult and connecting with the message in the title song as I set on the road to discover myself and take control of the reigns I never held before. The twin reigns of accepting myself as God created me and controlling my own destiny. I sat there with tears in my eyes watching Prince blaze the place with the glory of his gift and thinking about these memories and how his music has been the soundtrack of my life, always bringing me the best satisfaction one could have. Being fucked by a song and possessed with the power of music. Then Prince comes out and does an acoustic set. Forever In My Live Real playas (???) Nuthin' After Midnite (???) Sleep On The Couch* Little Red Corvette Sometimes It Snows In April Seven In all honesty, I have never been a fan of "7". Never...... Then Prince steps up to the stage, dons a guitar and starts his accoustic set. Hearing "7" done accoustic style just floored me. I never really connected with the message before as the music always distracted me. But last night that accoustic version was inspirational. It was flowing with such truth. And I sang the chorus and cried... I did.... Prince is in the right place in his life. It's obvious. Regardless of the issues I have with organized religion, I felt so comfortable in the way he conveyed his love for God. It was simple and starkly truthful, full of humility and grace. No preaching....he didn't have to. He was able to give God the glory without being obnoxious about it. He really seemed so comfortable and it just felt like he really is on the right path and I'm very happy to see that for him. the final song was: Purple Rain God, it just felt good to see him embracing all the music that made our life so rich. I felt so happy to see the anger of the symbol years completely gone and the passion of the man who God struck with the most amazing gift totally alive for all to experience and share. And when he began crying at the love his fans had for his gift, I just lost it. This concert was simply an amazing experience and I can't wait for everyone else to have it too. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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stanleylieber said: if you look closely in that Sacrifice of Victor appreciation thread you'll see supa talking up our hero as well.
That thread had me waxing poetic SO HARD 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Thanks but I wasn't even going to bother. Let 'em think what they like. I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Going way back but a thread I created discussing the musicianship of The Rainbow Children:
http://www.prince.org/msg/7/168790 kisscamille said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Understandably people may not like some of the lyrics on this album but I just gave it a spin and you cannot even say the musicianship on this album isn't the freakin bomb. I know there are some out there that say this is musically a piece of crap and for you..... Hope that cleared you're head a bit
I couldn't agree more Supa. I've always felt the same way about TRC. I'm an atheist, so all the religious babble never turned me on whatsoever, but the musicianship is untouchable. I like all songs and I try not to pay too much attention to the other shit. Musically, TRC is a 10!!! This was the last time I actually discussed Prince music so zealously. I just remember when TRC was released through the club and everyone was just buzzing about the music. I remember having stellar conversations with Aerogram and Byron about the musicianship. We just disected and disected and disected. We had threads worth of discussions about various aspects of the musicianship on the album. That certainly did not happen with Musicology. The reason I consider Musicology to be such a fraud is because he was hyping "real musicianship" and real musicianship is all but missing on that album. On the heels of TRC, you knew he could really showcase musicianship in an album so it was really shocking that he would produce Musicology so shabbily. I mean, he had a band to pull it off so why didn't he? Especially during the year he was inducted to the R&R Hall of Fame OK, fams. Just in case you didn't notice, I underlined and colored in red the fact that I love to discuss Prince's music. There really isn't that much music lovers (from a technical/performance angle) can discuss on Lotusflower. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Thanks but I wasn't even going to bother. Let 'em think what they like. A little fish told me you weren't coming to the party I still want your face on the hall of Fame though! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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My interpretation of Prince's lyrics in Wasted Kisses:
http://www.prince.org/msg...sg_1283965 My interpretation of the song is not about a failed relationship but about the death of his baby.
Overdue, that's how I describe the hour, the minute the moment that I first laid eyes on you... The first time Prince sees his baby. Think about how much Prince must have wanted kids and think of how agonizing it must have been for him to have to wait 9 months for this moment. Certainly "overdue" could describe the length of time for him to finally be able to lay eyes on his own child for the first time. I guess I knew, that sooner or later this power, would manifest itself into a rendezvous... The song is about kisses right? The power he is speaking of is the power of the kiss. Think of the power that a kiss holds. Enough to make two people want to be inside each other. Power enough to lead him and his wife in the DANCE ELECTRIC-sexual union. Kissing...leading to sex...leading to pregnancy...leading to the baby's birth...leading to the moment he first laid eyes on the baby. Small dark room, that's where I let you smother, in front of your gut torn (lyrics are questionable as to gut torn) mother, why should I care?... Wasn't Prince's baby on life support at some point? So say that this part of the song Prince is reminiscing of being in the hospital where he and Mayte are faced with making the final decision on whether to keep the little baby alive on machines or let him rest in peace and pull the plug. If the baby's life support system was finally shut off, most likely this would have caused the baby to smother and gasp for final breaths. Why does he say Gut torn? I think this lyric is Gut Torn and can be taken in two ways. Gut torn--Mayte's gut is torn from having to make this decision on her precious son. Have you never been gut torn over a situation? I'm sure like most of us, you have. OR Gut torn...literally. Having just given birth, her gut is torn from the experience of child birth. I think it would be both at the same time. Also, he says "Why should I care", I take this as him not wanting to care because it is just too much but you can tell by the way he sings the word "CARE" in the song that he really does care. Cheap perfume all over those burgundy stockings, the ones I tied you up with I should have just left em there... Perhaps this line is directed at Mayte. Remember how scripted Prince's marriage and the pregnancy were? They got married on Valentines day, that night conceived, 9 months later thay had a baby. What if on the night they conceived, Prince tied Mayte up with those perfumed burgundy stockings? If he had just "left em there", they may not have had the sexual union that led to the conception of their doomed child. Why did I waste my kisses on you... Sounds cold but those kisses led to death. They were wasted... This of course is a diabolically cynical take but it's a discussion of lyrics nonetheless. If there were songs that warranted lyrical praise from Lotusflower, I'd be the first to give it Nothing on that set even causes me to think past the immediate moment of hearing the words on CD..... . [Edited 4/27/09 14:30pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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On Lovesexy:
http://prince.org/msg/thr...&tid=33766 I think many of us who have been fans since the beginning tend to base our opinions on how good a Prince album is, especially one from the 80s, on how much it affected us in our lives at that time.
I was 18 when Lovesexy came out and I was just dealing with admitting I was gay. I drew on the spiritual strength of that album to help me get through the rejection I faced from family and friends. I listened to it with a searching soul and I found answers. Some of the answers lie in the album itself, but other answers I discovered within my own self as I listened over and over. Seeing Prince on the cover naked and bare gave me the strength and courage to face my own newfound “nakedness”. Having to face society’s anger and hate was a tough choice but I thought if Prince could be THAT honest and open, so could I. I always saw the cover as one of God’s creatures simply existing in a state of truth. I always knew the cover wasn’t supposed to be a nasty thing, rather Prince exposed and bare and having no shame about basking in the glorious knowledge he found in the midst of despair. For personal reasons I happen to believe that this album IS a masterpiece. But I also believe this from a musical standpoint. IMO, Lovesexy still sounds fresh. If you took that album and compared it to any and everything around it at the time it was released, it totally stands alone. The only argument about the sound being dated is the use of the Linn drum, other than that, you can’t say this has an 80s sound to it. You really can’t even compare it to the music that Prince made before and after. It is so unique. I agree that this album personified Prince the best. I love the lyrics. Even the “silly” ones. One of the things that is the most fun about Prince’s music is trying to figure out what all the metaphorical wording means. It brings out the creativity in us all when we discuss lyrics that make absolutely no sense on the surface. Usually we come to amazing conclusions and for that, the lyrics will never bother me. Besides there are many other lyrics that stand out, probably the best being “In every man’s life there will be a hang-up, a whirlwind designed to slow you down. It cuts like a knife, it tries to get in you…this spooky electric sound. Give up if you want to and all is lost, Spooky Electric will be your boss………….Don’t kiss the beast, be superior at least”. I STILL to this day rely on this album to help me achieve the right frame of mind when I think I’m down for the count. It puts me on my feet every time. I want to cry right now writing about how much this album affected my life. It truly remains my favorite and most surely always will. Love God, Love Life, Lovesexy!! Yes, it's a reflection on the past but what modern day Prince album helped a gay youth to gain the courage to come out of the closet? I'm not talking about an album that happened to be released at the time someone came out but one that gave someone the drive and the will to do it? . [Edited 4/27/09 14:34pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Thanks but I wasn't even going to bother. Let 'em think what they like. A little fish told me you weren't coming to the party I still want your face on the hall of Fame though! You know me so well! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_453181
On the song Tamborine: I can’t ever believe it when people talk shit on this song. It is so damn funky!!
"Oh my God here you are, prettiest thing in life I’ve ever seen. Close my eyes, what’s it like, what’s it like inside your Tamborine? Oh my God there I go, fallin in love with a face in a magazine (uh-oh not again), all alone by myself, me & I play my Tamborine…..Troubling Troubling Troubling Troubling Lonely Lonely nights, Troubling. Lonely lonely nights, troubling. I don’t care for one night stands with trolley cars that juggle 17 " I think the trolley car line is such a crackup!! What a great way to refer to a loose woman….a pussy that can juggle 17 men at once!!! This song straight out kicks ass!!! Listen to him flipping out at the end and tell me that Prince aint funky. And it is "Troubling" as in being troubled at having to be all alone without someone to help play his “tamborine”. I love the creative way Prince sings about masterbation!! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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