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Reply #90 posted 04/24/09 3:49pm

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NDRU said:

the 80's? Lovesexy? Only Sheila fits that bill.

But if I understand your point, I agree, and I think he's never really ignored his past. I've never seen him NOT play Purple Rain, and there's only one post '84 tour I know that he didn't play it.

I think he does try to move forward, but he's pretty in love with his past, too. He can't stop singing DMSR even though he doesn't cuss and tries to deny that he has ever had sex or even a lustful thought lol He brings back Wendy & Lisa. He did a sequel to PR. Gold is nothing if not a wannabe PR II, as is Last December. The Rainbow Children revives the 1999 intro voice, much to people's inexplicable horror.

if anything, he can't leave his past alone
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This thread is ZERO to do with Prince and 1 billion percent towards the next stupid ass fan that tells me I'm stuck in the past. If it's good enough for Prince then shut the phuk up.
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Reply #91 posted 04/24/09 3:53pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:

the 80's? Lovesexy? Only Sheila fits that bill.

But if I understand your point, I agree, and I think he's never really ignored his past. I've never seen him NOT play Purple Rain, and there's only one post '84 tour I know that he didn't play it.

I think he does try to move forward, but he's pretty in love with his past, too. He can't stop singing DMSR even though he doesn't cuss and tries to deny that he has ever had sex or even a lustful thought lol He brings back Wendy & Lisa. He did a sequel to PR. Gold is nothing if not a wannabe PR II, as is Last December. The Rainbow Children revives the 1999 intro voice, much to people's inexplicable horror.

if anything, he can't leave his past alone
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This thread is ZERO to do with Prince and 1 billion percent towards the next stupid ass fan that tells me I'm stuck in the past. If it's good enough for Prince then shut the phuk up.


so it's really all about you!
lol
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Reply #92 posted 04/24/09 3:54pm

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



This thread is ZERO to do with Prince and 1 billion percent towards the next stupid ass fan that tells me I'm stuck in the past. If it's good enough for Prince then shut the phuk up.


so it's really all about you!
lol

and the bitchfaced fams who have the nerve to tell me to move from the 80s lol
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Reply #93 posted 04/24/09 3:57pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



so it's really all about you!
lol

and the bitchfaced fams who have the nerve to tell me to move from the 80s lol


maybe it's more about calling them bitchfaced than your views on Prince! smile
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Reply #94 posted 04/24/09 4:00pm

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


and the bitchfaced fams who have the nerve to tell me to move from the 80s lol


maybe it's more about calling them bitchfaced than your views on Prince! smile

I want to commit fammicide exclaim lol
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Reply #95 posted 04/24/09 4:55pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

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josh and cora r yawn

prince rarely called 4 josh 2 solo or anything so it's like he's phoning it home whenever he's on stage. cora doesn't have the POWER that his past drummers have had..yes she's better than kirky j and bobby but still yawn


I was thinking about something along the lines of how I look at a person and from the time they stopped working with Prince, I think in a way that they stopped growing themselves.

How do we know Cora is better than Bobby, he most likely has gotten better since 1986 and I know he is still drumming and doing studio technician work


alright whenever ur hear about prince's x band memebers around the mpls scene, in the bars/clubs what have u, have u ever heard bobby's name mentioned sitting in with some one? naw ur hearing about michael b, sometimes kirk still gigging, and u know u hear about john blackwell. how come no bobby?

tell ya why not..at the very 1st celebration when 3 members of the revolution came up on stage with prince, bobby was behind the drums and was TIRED after drumming 2 mins..prince gave bobby a solo and bobby couldn't hang with it so kirky j went back in on drums.

cora however not that great imo can do something behind the drums..now if bobby was still keeping his chops up..then who knows what could come of it.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #96 posted 04/24/09 5:01pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



H

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He's going to have them do shows with him, but they are his friends, it really has nothing to do with them 'joining the band' but just like Sheila they'll perform with him time to time



like darth vader in return of the sith ...NOOOOO!!!!!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #97 posted 04/24/09 5:04pm

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NDRU said:

the 80's? Lovesexy? Only Sheila fits that bill.

But if I understand your point, I agree, and I think he's never really ignored his past. I've never seen him NOT play Purple Rain, and there's only one post '84 tour I know that he didn't play it.




and there should have been more without it nod
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #98 posted 04/24/09 5:06pm

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garywobby said:

[b]Fuck Renato bring back Dr. Fink.


That would be crazy! I saw Dr. Fink playing in Minneapolis last summer and it confirmed what I always thought. Fink was Prince's weakest keyboardist. He just is not on the skill level of Renato, Tommy or the others. I cannot see him adding anything to Prince's music now.


as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #99 posted 04/24/09 5:08pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Are they current? I have no idea lol Point is, they were out of the scene at least for a little bit. I've seen Prince without Mr hayes for sure and without Renato as well. One is NPS, the other Rainbow Children. Rhonda & Sheila E, reaching back to the past as far and even farther. Please lol


Well, actually:

Morris joined the NPG in 92
Rhonda in 96
Renato in 02

They may not have been with him consistently since then, but I don't think Prince bringing them back is a nostaligia trip. Pulling the best players he's worked with together is a good idea, no?



Common sense^^^^^
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Reply #100 posted 04/24/09 5:10pm

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bellanoche said:



That would be crazy! I saw Dr. Fink playing in Minneapolis last summer and it confirmed what I always thought. Fink was Prince's weakest keyboardist. He just is not on the skill level of Renato, Tommy or the others. I cannot see him adding anything to Prince's music now.


as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool


Fink had style that blended well with Prince's 80's style. Renato fits Prince's '00s jazzier style.

I think the key to the criticism of newer Prince bands vs the Revolution is that the Revolution had style to make up for where they lacked the technical proficiency of his NPG lineups. Diamonds & Pearls sounded like a bunch of generic studio musicians when I first heard it. There's something to be said for that, too, but I didn't like it at first.
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Reply #101 posted 04/24/09 5:19pm

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NDRU said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool


Fink had style that blended well with Prince's 80's style. Renato fits Prince's '00s jazzier style.

I think the key to the criticism of newer Prince bands vs the Revolution is that the Revolution had style to make up for where they lacked the technical proficiency of his NPG lineups. Diamonds & Pearls sounded like a bunch of generic studio musicians when I first heard it. There's something to be said for that, too, but I didn't like it at first.
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Compare the D&P band to the Band that did Gold, Exodus and Chaos & Disorder. Once the band tightened the hell up, Prince went to training a new band. Think of what NewPowerSoul would have been with tommy, sonny & Michael B instead of a new lineup.
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Reply #102 posted 04/24/09 5:22pm

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oh god, just shut up already. you lost.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #103 posted 04/24/09 5:23pm

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errant said:

oh god, just shut up already. you lost.

get the fuck off if you don't like hearing it! biggrin
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Reply #104 posted 04/24/09 5:25pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

errant said:

oh god, just shut up already. you lost.

get the fuck off if you don't like hearing it! biggrin


i'm TRYING to get the fuck off, but your endless prattle is distracting me jerkoff

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Reply #105 posted 04/24/09 5:28pm

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errant said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


get the fuck off if you don't like hearing it! biggrin


i'm TRYING to get the fuck off, but your endless prattle is distracting me jerkoff

biggrin

Well you're never gonna dump that load because I won't ever shut up lol
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Reply #106 posted 04/24/09 7:45pm

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NDRU said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool


Fink had style that blended well with Prince's 80's style. Renato fits Prince's '00s jazzier style.

I think the key to the criticism of newer Prince bands vs the Revolution is that the Revolution had style to make up for where they lacked the technical proficiency of his NPG lineups. Diamonds & Pearls sounded like a bunch of generic studio musicians when I first heard it. There's something to be said for that, too, but I didn't like it at first.
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I agree,

One thing that I do appreciate about Dr Fink, is if you hear the music he produces and makes he would be right there with Prince, Dr Fink was very diverse in his musical styles. He has a website and Myspace, he has some seriously tight stuff
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Reply #107 posted 04/24/09 7:57pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

One thing that I do appreciate about Dr Fink, is if you hear the music he produces and makes he would be right there with Prince, Dr Fink was very diverse in his musical styles. He has a website and Myspace, he has some seriously tight stuff


Most of his Ultrasound album is pretty good. He told me Prince really liked "Nebulosity" from the album. It didn't surprise me because it's very trippy, and seems like something Prince would enjoy.

It was a decent first solo album, although he did a lot of music for K-Tel in the 90's. During the boom of the angels and vampries era of the 90's (post Lestat), he put together two compilations for K-Tel called Music Of The Angels, and another one about vampires. He wrote and produced it all. Wasn't bad stuff really.
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Reply #108 posted 04/24/09 9:08pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



I was thinking about something along the lines of how I look at a person and from the time they stopped working with Prince, I think in a way that they stopped growing themselves.

How do we know Cora is better than Bobby, he most likely has gotten better since 1986 and I know he is still drumming and doing studio technician work


alright whenever ur hear about prince's x band memebers around the mpls scene, in the bars/clubs what have u, have u ever heard bobby's name mentioned sitting in with some one? naw ur hearing about michael b, sometimes kirk still gigging, and u know u hear about john blackwell. how come no bobby?

tell ya why not..at the very 1st celebration when 3 members of the revolution came up on stage with prince, bobby was behind the drums and was TIRED after drumming 2 mins..prince gave bobby a solo and bobby couldn't hang with it so kirky j went back in on drums.

cora however not that great imo can do something behind the drums..now if bobby was still keeping his chops up..then who knows what could come of it.



I'm not talking about what Prince has to say about it

I'm talking in a general way. When most people around here(And I'm included and had to rethink that) talk about Bobby as a drum that deal with it in a way that says in 1986/87 Bobby stopped playing drums, But Bobby continued and no doubt has increased or matured his craft. Unless he stopped all together.
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Reply #109 posted 04/24/09 9:09pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

One thing that I do appreciate about Dr Fink, is if you hear the music he produces and makes he would be right there with Prince, Dr Fink was very diverse in his musical styles. He has a website and Myspace, he has some seriously tight stuff


Most of his Ultrasound album is pretty good. He told me Prince really liked "Nebulosity" from the album. It didn't surprise me because it's very trippy, and seems like something Prince would enjoy.

It was a decent first solo album, although he did a lot of music for K-Tel in the 90's. During the boom of the angels and vampries era of the 90's (post Lestat), he put together two compilations for K-Tel called Music Of The Angels, and another one about vampires. He wrote and produced it all. Wasn't bad stuff really.



Didn't he do some work with the Neptunes(Pharrell)?
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Reply #110 posted 04/24/09 9:12pm

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bellanoche said:



That would be crazy! I saw Dr. Fink playing in Minneapolis last summer and it confirmed what I always thought. Fink was Prince's weakest keyboardist. He just is not on the skill level of Renato, Tommy or the others. I cannot see him adding anything to Prince's music now.


as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool


Really? As a musician, I was completely unimpressed watching Fink play live last year. There was another, regular gigging keyboardist playing with the band, and he was better than Fink to me. He actually carried a lot of the weight.
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Reply #111 posted 04/24/09 9:22pm

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bellanoche said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



as much i like tommy, i've felt that fink runs circles around tommy..now having renato and fink on keys at the same time drool


Really? As a musician, I was completely unimpressed watching Fink play live last year. There was another, regular gigging keyboardist playing with the band, and he was better than Fink to me. He actually carried a lot of the weight.



I seriously doubt Fink would be considered Prince's weakest keyboardist

Anyone can have an off night, but Fink is very spectacular on the keys
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Reply #112 posted 04/24/09 9:23pm

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Didn't he do some work with the Neptunes(Pharrell)?


That sort of sounds familiar, but I am not sure. He wasn't doing anything with them when I last talked to him, which was the week after the Family Jamm.
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Reply #113 posted 04/24/09 10:56pm

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Not living in the past. Using the BEST STUDIO MUSICIANS he knows. Also the fans have asked him to bring Sonny, and Michael and Rhonda back.
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Reply #114 posted 04/27/09 10:20am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Didn't he do some work with the Neptunes(Pharrell)?


That sort of sounds familiar, but I am not sure. He wasn't doing anything with them when I last talked to him, which was the week after the Family Jamm.



Worked with/for:
Lexington Bridge feat. Snoop Dogg, Jimi Blue, Popstars On Stage Allstars
Prince, The Revolution, NPG, Lipps Inc., The Time, Vanity 6 and many more

Only recently his focus turned back to Pop Music, as current biggest pop-albums by Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado are picking up a long lost reference to the sounds that he once helped defining.

http://www.doctorfink.com/

From Berlin dance floors to British airwaves to Grammy Award winning stages in the States, Matt “Dr.” Fink’s signature sound occupies an irresistible place in music history. Cunningly clad in surgical scrubs as Prince’s award-winning keyboardist in The Revolution, this player-turned-producer modestly shrugs when asked if aware of the impact his music has had on the artists and producers of today.

With over thirty R.I.A.A. Diamond, Platinum and Gold Awards, MTV, Grammy and American Music Awards for the albums Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day, Parade and Sign O’ The Times- not to mention appearances on releases by The Time, The Jets, Ashanti, Vanity 6, Mavis Staples, Lipps Inc. and more- it’s no wonder the “Dr.” is in on speed dial with the likes of Timbaland, Timberlake, The Neptunes as well as Diddy.

In 2009, as evidenced by his appearance on Diddy’s Making The Band series, the good “Dr.” continues to make house calls. He travels the globe working with artists such as Danity Kane (Bad Boy Records), Making The Band’s Seven Auralius as well as Ken Lewis protégés Man On Earth. Back home in Minneapolis, he owns and operates StarVu Studios- a playground for all things unique and the birthplace of cutting-edge pop songs by hit-making artists from all over the world.
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Reply #115 posted 04/27/09 10:26am

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amorbella said:



YUP!!!
Hi Supa, love ya honey


I'm going to burn that lineup into the next person's eyeballs that tries to give me grief for enjoying Prince's glory days lol


You mean you are living in Prince's past! lol
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Reply #116 posted 04/27/09 12:39pm

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errant said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


get the fuck off if you don't like hearing it! biggrin


i'm TRYING to get the fuck off, but your endless prattle is distracting me jerkoff

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did you get off yet? lol
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