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Printableernestsewell said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I have no idea
 Point is, they were out of the scene at least for a little bit.Since when does that exclude their contributions or them ever coming back to contribute again? Why does everything have to be so black and white in stone? And? Rhonda & Sheila E, reaching back to the past as far and even farther.
See above. Since when do people in Prince's band NOT have a right to leave and do their own thing, whether an album or a tour w/ someone else, and come back? Sheila was playing for and with Prince as early as 2001 or 2000 in the Celebration at Paisley Park. Probably 2001, because the NPGMC was in its first year. Was he reaching in the past then? Why can't people just be friends who play music together? It's not like being discharged from the military, and they've all been issued their separation papers. Talk about wanting dramz. Anything past yesterday is the past. I am not slamming his choice to reach back to the past. It makes total sense and I love all these band members. I just think it's ironic that the fans aren't allowed to look back ever without getting bitchslapped by some fam but Prince is reaching way the fuck back to 88 for his band support and nobody blinks an eye
And is the disbanding of his bands a matter of them moving on or Prince getting bored? . [Edited 4/24/09 9:47am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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maybe Cora and Josh had to be somewhere. | |
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TRON said: Supa, ya know I love you, but I really don't follow.
My ill made point: Any talk about the past is met with frenzied flipouts that I "can't move on", which obviously aint true because I love TRC & 3121 and even a little bit of LF. But Prince works with old bandmembers that made the music I reflect back on and yet I'm the one living in the past but Prince is not. Prince moves through bands like he moves through women. I have seen Cora play and she is a good drummer but I find absolute zero personality in her playing and presence and I don't even know who this Josh person is. Keyboards? I just find it fascinating that Prince relies on people from the era's I loved and reflect on and yet Prince is some visionary and I'm a relic!
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purplecam said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
NOT ONE CURRENT BAND MEMBER in otherwords, Prince is living in the past!  In the 80s even! Can anyone say "Lovsexy"
Great performance though  Dude you are really reaching with this one. Good grief. The threads on fire. With help from you!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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TwiliteKid said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Keeping a band long enough to build a professional relationship around is a good idea. He's always starting new bands just when the old band is finding it's footing and voice. Why not keep great band members to begin with intstead of constantly having to train a new one? I love that he's working with these people but find it hilarious that Prince needs to reach back in time to have a decent sounding band I disagree with you on that one. I don't think Josh & Cora are the best rhythm section he's ever had, but it's not like they're amateurs or anything. I feel like a lot of the hate for them is merely because of the band they followed. josh and cora r 
prince rarely called 4 josh 2 solo or anything so it's like he's phoning it home whenever he's on stage. cora doesn't have the POWER that his past drummers have had..yes she's better than kirky j and bobby but still man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: TwiliteKid said: I disagree with you on that one. I don't think Josh & Cora are the best rhythm section he's ever had, but it's not like they're amateurs or anything. I feel like a lot of the hate for them is merely because of the band they followed. josh and cora r
prince rarely called 4 josh 2 solo or anything so it's like he's phoning it home whenever he's on stage. cora doesn't have the POWER that his past drummers have had..yes she's better than kirky j and bobby but still What does Josh do? I don't think I've seen him play with the band. I have no idea who he even is 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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realm said: Good!! bring in Wendy and Lisa to this mix and you got something special.
H E L L N O ! man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: Graycap23 said: One listen 2 the 3 concert performances Prince gave a couple of weeks ago says it all. i heard the conga room show which imo was a bit of a trainwreck at times..josh & cora nowhere in sight... orgasmic setlist but prince didn't seem on usual form.. go back & listen 2 the trio aftershow in london which is one of the most memorable EVER . those guys stamped their personality all over that show  and then go compare that show 2 the undertaker music ... undertaker wins!! man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: L4OATheOriginal said: josh and cora r
prince rarely called 4 josh 2 solo or anything so it's like he's phoning it home whenever he's on stage. cora doesn't have the POWER that his past drummers have had..yes she's better than kirky j and bobby but still What does Josh do? I don't think I've seen him play with the band. I have no idea who he even is bass man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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loved it anyways!  | |
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rbrpm said: loved it anyways!
Never said I didn't. Loved it too. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: realm said: Good!! bring in Wendy and Lisa to this mix and you got something special.
H E L L N O !  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: NONSENSE said: rhonda and shelia look & play great with Prince. For a minute, I thought he was rolling with an all female band ????? Good look P! I still love sony and michael but the females are a nice touch.
the females from the past? Yeah, I agree, nice touch  I love seeing Sheila perform with Prince, there is something about seeing people with history perform together. Rhonda is just beautiful on bass It would have been hot to have Wendy on backing guitar Lisa on Keyboards and Rosie on Keyboards Now that would have been an all girl (GIRL POWER) band | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ernestsewell said: See above. Since when do people in Prince's band NOT have a right to leave and do their own thing, whether an album or a tour w/ someone else, and come back? Sheila was playing for and with Prince as early as 2001 or 2000 in the Celebration at Paisley Park. Probably 2001, because the NPGMC was in its first year. Was he reaching in the past then? Why can't people just be friends who play music together? It's not like being discharged from the military, and they've all been issued their separation papers. Talk about wanting dramz. Anything past yesterday is the past. I am not slamming his choice to reach back to the past. It makes total sense and I love all these band members. I just think it's ironic that the fans aren't allowed to look back ever without getting bitchslapped by some fam but Prince is reaching way the fuck back to 88 for his band support and nobody blinks an eye
And is the disbanding of his bands a matter of them moving on or Prince getting bored? . [Edited 4/24/09 9:47am] I agree, I think it's really impersonal and cold when people don't or can't see that relationships are formed with band members. I've been working (and in different departments and companies) for the last 15 years, And I have relationships with people from way back then. Why would Prince. These are living people not instruments and equipment. I think a touch of it is Prince's 'need' to remain known as an individual act | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: TwiliteKid said: I disagree with you on that one. I don't think Josh & Cora are the best rhythm section he's ever had, but it's not like they're amateurs or anything. I feel like a lot of the hate for them is merely because of the band they followed. josh and cora r
prince rarely called 4 josh 2 solo or anything so it's like he's phoning it home whenever he's on stage. cora doesn't have the POWER that his past drummers have had..yes she's better than kirky j and bobby but still I was thinking about something along the lines of how I look at a person and from the time they stopped working with Prince, I think in a way that they stopped growing themselves. How do we know Cora is better than Bobby, he most likely has gotten better since 1986 and I know he is still drumming and doing studio technician work | |
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From all accounts, Bobby is a great drum player - Prince was just madly in love with the Linn at the time.
And lest someone think i'm an "'ol schooler" blindly defending (as is the case with so many here), I always crack that Bobby rocks the cymbals like NO OTHER on the Prince & the Revolution: Live concert. • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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OldFriends4Sale said: I agree, I think it's really impersonal and cold when people don't or can't see that relationships are formed with band members. I've been working (and in different departments and companies) for the last 15 years, And I have relationships with people from way back then. Why would Prince. These are living people not instruments and equipment. I think a touch of it is Prince's 'need' to remain known as an individual act He'll always be known as just Prince to the general public. They don't know "The Revolution", "New Power Generation" or what "the Lovesexy band" means. They know Prince. If people were raving and hoping for old school Prince when he promoted MPLSound as a reach back to his old days, then why does it become a crime to play with old band mates ? It's a bit of hypocrisy there. | |
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Rogue588 said: From all accounts, Bobby is a great drum player - Prince was just madly in love with the Linn at the time.
And lest someone think i'm an "'ol schooler" blindly defending (as is the case with so many here), I always crack that Bobby rocks the cymbals like NO OTHER on the Prince & the Revolution: Live concert. And the great thing is that Bobby was never dismissed as a drummer, despite the Linn. They BOTH played on the PR tour, and there was a lot less of it on the Hit N Run tour in 1986. | |
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ernestsewell said: OldFriends4Sale said: I agree, I think it's really impersonal and cold when people don't or can't see that relationships are formed with band members. I've been working (and in different departments and companies) for the last 15 years, And I have relationships with people from way back then. Why would Prince. These are living people not instruments and equipment. I think a touch of it is Prince's 'need' to remain known as an individual act He'll always be known as just Prince to the general public. They don't know "The Revolution", "New Power Generation" or what "the Lovesexy band" means. They know Prince. If people were raving and hoping for old school Prince when he promoted MPLSound as a reach back to his old days, then why does it become a crime to play with old band mates ? It's a bit of hypocrisy there. That is my POINT. It ISN'T a damn crime and the fact that he is reaching back instead of moving forward puts ME in the same camp as Prince! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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ernestsewell said: (How you been? I ran across me on your show the other day. Funny stuff.)
I been good. Been better. But been good. Being pushed out by NPR didn't help either... • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: That is my POINT. It ISN'T a damn crime and the fact that he is reaching back instead of moving forward puts ME in the same camp as Prince!
Why you screamin'? You know I'm not a man o' war... | |
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ernestsewell said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: That is my POINT. It ISN'T a damn crime and the fact that he is reaching back instead of moving forward puts ME in the same camp as Prince!
Why you screamin'? You know I'm not a man o' war... It makes the makeup sex better 
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: It makes the makeup sex better
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[b]Fuck Renato bring back Dr. Fink. I wanted what was yours, now I just want u 2 care | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: ernestsewell said: See above. Since when do people in Prince's band NOT have a right to leave and do their own thing, whether an album or a tour w/ someone else, and come back? Sheila was playing for and with Prince as early as 2001 or 2000 in the Celebration at Paisley Park. Probably 2001, because the NPGMC was in its first year. Was he reaching in the past then? Why can't people just be friends who play music together? It's not like being discharged from the military, and they've all been issued their separation papers. Talk about wanting dramz. Anything past yesterday is the past. I am not slamming his choice to reach back to the past. It makes total sense and I love all these band members. I just think it's ironic that the fans aren't allowed to look back ever without getting bitchslapped by some fam but Prince is reaching way the fuck back to 88 for his band support and nobody blinks an eye
And is the disbanding of his bands a matter of them moving on or Prince getting bored? . [Edited 4/24/09 9:47am] he's been using Sheila off and on at stuff for years though Supa You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ernestsewell said: OldFriends4Sale said: I agree, I think it's really impersonal and cold when people don't or can't see that relationships are formed with band members. I've been working (and in different departments and companies) for the last 15 years, And I have relationships with people from way back then. Why would Prince. These are living people not instruments and equipment. I think a touch of it is Prince's 'need' to remain known as an individual act He'll always be known as just Prince to the general public. They don't know "The Revolution", "New Power Generation" or what "the Lovesexy band" means. They know Prince. If people were raving and hoping for old school Prince when he promoted MPLSound as a reach back to his old days, then why does it become a crime to play with old band mates ? It's a bit of hypocrisy there. That last part was my answer to 'why do U think he changes bands so much' or something like that. Yes they do know the Revolution. Fans know these bands. Prince started out as a 1 man band kind of idea, because he could play all these instruments. I can't say what happened or why during 1986/87 when it came to the bandmates. Who actually were bandmates since the beginning mostly: the noituloveR members for the most part were the same from For U - Parade/DreamFactory Gale, Dez, Andre,Wendy being the changed members, I don't know why people consider it a bad thing, I don't get the 'reaching back' thing. the Minneapolis Sound is Prince music, not gansta rap with some hendrix guitar riffs lol I don't know why it should be a problem for any, especially like I said, these people aren't outdated machines or equipment but people who he has created relationships with. It's not surprise for me to see Wendy Lisa Sheila or Rhonda on stage with him in 2009. These people are friends as well as musical collaborators with prince... | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: realm said: Good!! bring in Wendy and Lisa to this mix and you got something special.
H E L L N O ! He's going to have them do shows with him, but they are his friends, it really has nothing to do with them 'joining the band' but just like Sheila they'll perform with him time to time | |
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ehuffnsd said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I am not slamming his choice to reach back to the past. It makes total sense and I love all these band members. I just think it's ironic that the fans aren't allowed to look back ever without getting bitchslapped by some fam but Prince is reaching way the fuck back to 88 for his band support and nobody blinks an eye
And is the disbanding of his bands a matter of them moving on or Prince getting bored? . [Edited 4/24/09 9:47am] he's been using Sheila off and on at stuff for years though Supa Supa isn't contesting that. Supa is having a problem with other fans who get on fans who say they would like for Prince to perform with Sheila or Lisa, Yet Prince does perform or work with them | |
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the 80's? Lovesexy? Only Sheila fits that bill.
But if I understand your point, I agree, and I think he's never really ignored his past. I've never seen him NOT play Purple Rain, and there's only one post '84 tour I know that he didn't play it. I think he does try to move forward, but he's pretty in love with his past, too. He can't stop singing DMSR even though he doesn't cuss and tries to deny that he has ever had sex or even a lustful thought He brings back Wendy & Lisa. He did a sequel to PR. Gold is nothing if not a wannabe PR II, as is Last December. The Rainbow Children revives the 1999 intro voice, much to people's inexplicable horror.
if anything, he can't leave his past alone [Edited 4/24/09 14:56pm] My Legacy
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garywobby said: [b]Fuck Renato bring back Dr. Fink.
That would be crazy! I saw Dr. Fink playing in Minneapolis last summer and it confirmed what I always thought. Fink was Prince's weakest keyboardist. He just is not on the skill level of Renato, Tommy or the others. I cannot see him adding anything to Prince's music now. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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