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Reply #30 posted 04/23/09 9:14pm

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I almost died seeing Rhonda Smith sitting on the couch cool as a cucumber...I kept rewinding the DVR...big grin
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Reply #31 posted 04/23/09 9:27pm

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tat2s said:

what did he perform?

Crimson and Clover - very nice live version. He owns this song now.
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Reply #32 posted 04/23/09 9:43pm

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Reply #33 posted 04/23/09 9:52pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

TwiliteKid said:



Well, actually:

Morris joined the NPG in 92
Rhonda in 96
Renato in 02

They may not have been with him consistently since then, but I don't think Prince bringing them back is a nostaligia trip. Pulling the best players he's worked with together is a good idea, no?


Keeping a band long enough to build a professional relationship around is a good idea. He's always starting new bands just when the old band is finding it's footing and voice. Why not keep great band members to begin with intstead of constantly having to train a new one?

I love that he's working with these people but find it hilarious that Prince needs to reach back in time to have a decent sounding band lol

I'm confused. Sheila is the only one from the past and Renato and Morris have been in the most recent incarnation of his band. So, whatchu talkin' 'bout Supa???? confuse
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Reply #34 posted 04/23/09 10:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have no idea lol Point is, they were out of the scene at least for a little bit.

Since when does that exclude their contributions or them ever coming back to contribute again? Why does everything have to be so black and white in stone?

I've seen Prince without Mr hayes for sure and without Renato as well.

Hayes was gone just a few years, but he's now the longest surviving Prince band member. He has the most years. Fink was one to hold that until recent years. Hayes has been back since 3121.

One is NPS, the other Rainbow Children.

And?

Rhonda & Sheila E, reaching back to the past as far and even farther.


See above. Since when do people in Prince's band NOT have a right to leave and do their own thing, whether an album or a tour w/ someone else, and come back? Sheila was playing for and with Prince as early as 2001 or 2000 in the Celebration at Paisley Park. Probably 2001, because the NPGMC was in its first year. Was he reaching in the past then? Why can't people just be friends who play music together? It's not like being discharged from the military, and they've all been issued their separation papers.

Talk about wanting dramz.

Anything past yesterday is the past.
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Reply #35 posted 04/23/09 10:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

  • Sheila E
  • Rhonda
  • Renato
  • Mr Hayes


NOT

ONE

CURRENT

BAND

MEMBER


in otherwords, Prince is living in the past!

Not sure I understand this point either...however, I didn't think it was a secret that Prince likes the past (contrary to what he and his enablers might think/say). Heck, what did his recent performance of "'Ol Skool Company" on Leno begin with?
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Reply #36 posted 04/23/09 10:31pm

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lottielooloo1968 said:

but i wanna know what was wrong with rhonda cuz she spent quite a lot of time sat down.

Rhonda sat cuz she too fine to stand.
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Reply #37 posted 04/23/09 10:42pm

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Prince has been teasing me with bit's and pieces of Michael B.

Bring him back for good already!
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Reply #38 posted 04/23/09 10:45pm

ernestsewell

Rogue588 said:


Rhonda sat cuz she too fine to stand.


She's three fine. wink

(How you been? I ran across me on your show the other day. Funny stuff.)
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Reply #39 posted 04/24/09 12:38am

Ottensen

CherrieMoonKisses said:

I almost died seeing Rhonda Smith sitting on the couch cool as a cucumber...I kept rewinding the DVR...big grin


You shouldn't! You know, when bass players reach a certain age, they love to sit their asses down during performances. Uurybody else will be up and grooving, and they just sit there on a chair or something, just holding the bottom in their own little world, cause they don't give a f*****ck falloff....I gotta admit,her sitting on a stool is what I would normally expect, but the couch and her in those stillettoes was an extra fabuuu touch lol lol lol
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Reply #40 posted 04/24/09 12:43am

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lottielooloo1968 said:

that lineup was just a hottbed of lurve, but i wanna know what was wrong with rhonda cuz she spent quite a lot of time sat down.


It's not unusual for bass players to sit during live performances. Usually they're on some tiny little stool or seat, but the couch definitely gave a dramatic flair to it all. I liked it smile
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Reply #41 posted 04/24/09 12:49am

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ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


in otherwords, Prince is living in the past!


Morris Hayes, not a band member until the early 90's.

Renato, not a band member until 2000-ish.

Sheila E, played with Prince just years ago at the Brit Awards, the NAACP Image Awards, and was at the Celebration at Paisley Park.

Rhonda, around the same time as Renato.

So...how is this living in the past especially the 80's? Oh right....it's not.

NEXT lock

Rhonda took over Bass duties after Sonny T left in 96. way before Renato.
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Reply #42 posted 04/24/09 12:57am

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ehuffnsd said:


Rhonda took over Bass duties after Sonny T left in 96. way before Renato.


Hmm, true. Did she play bass on the Freedom Concert on VH1 in late 1996 ? I know Kat Dyson was on guitar.
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Reply #43 posted 04/24/09 1:10am

Vinniecent

just for the looks:

Cora Shmora,
Sheila love

For my ears:

Cora Shmora
Michael B love

I'm now waiting for the first person to say: "enough with al the cora hate!" or "she's not groundbreaking, but still a professional" shake
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Reply #44 posted 04/24/09 6:30am

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ernestsewell said:

ehuffnsd said:


Rhonda took over Bass duties after Sonny T left in 96. way before Renato.


Hmm, true. Did she play bass on the Freedom Concert on VH1 in late 1996 ? I know Kat Dyson was on guitar.


YES
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Reply #45 posted 04/24/09 6:32am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

  • Sheila E
  • Rhonda
  • Renato
  • Mr Hayes


NOT

ONE

CURRENT

BAND

MEMBER


in otherwords, Prince is living in the past! evillol In the 80s even! Can anyone say "Lovsexy" lol

Great performance though cool

Dude you are really reaching with this one. Good grief.
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Reply #46 posted 04/24/09 6:42am

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Josh & Cora were attending a youth music event in D.C., so couldn't be at the taping anyway.

U all know I love Sheila and Rhonda... hell, Rhonda used 2 get me on the guest list 4 several D.C. shows, back before there were member tickets.

But I'm tired of the seeing Josh & Cora being so grossly underrated here.

They SLAM in Prince's band, and don't forget their presence on the Lotusflow3r album. That's them on "Boom", "The Morning After", "4Ever", "$", and "DREAMER".
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Reply #47 posted 04/24/09 6:48am

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I loved this lineup! Ain't much sexier than Rhonda on bass!
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Reply #48 posted 04/24/09 6:49am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

  • Sheila E
  • Rhonda
  • Renato
  • Mr Hayes


NOT

ONE

CURRENT

BAND

MEMBER


in otherwords, Prince is living in the past! evillol In the 80s even! Can anyone say "Lovsexy" lol

Great performance though cool

Ol Skool Company
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Reply #49 posted 04/24/09 7:03am

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Josh & Cora were attending a youth music event in D.C., so couldn't be at the taping anyway.

U all know I love Sheila and Rhonda... hell, Rhonda used 2 get me on the guest list 4 several D.C. shows, back before there were member tickets.

But I'm tired of the seeing Josh & Cora being so grossly underrated here.

They SLAM in Prince's band, and don't forget their presence on the Lotusflow3r album. That's them on "Boom", "The Morning After", "4Ever", "$", and "DREAMER".


Seeing them live several times I agree.
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Reply #50 posted 04/24/09 7:05am

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Giovanni777 said:

Josh & Cora were attending a youth music event in D.C., so couldn't be at the taping anyway.

U all know I love Sheila and Rhonda... hell, Rhonda used 2 get me on the guest list 4 several D.C. shows, back before there were member tickets.

But I'm tired of the seeing Josh & Cora being so grossly underrated here.

They SLAM in Prince's band, and don't forget their presence on the Lotusflow3r album. That's them on "Boom", "The Morning After", "4Ever", "$", and "DREAMER".

They are boring as hell.
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Reply #51 posted 04/24/09 7:07am

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Good!! bring in Wendy and Lisa to this mix and you got something special.
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Reply #52 posted 04/24/09 7:11am

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Graycap23 said:

Giovanni777 said:

Josh & Cora were attending a youth music event in D.C., so couldn't be at the taping anyway.

U all know I love Sheila and Rhonda... hell, Rhonda used 2 get me on the guest list 4 several D.C. shows, back before there were member tickets.

But I'm tired of the seeing Josh & Cora being so grossly underrated here.

They SLAM in Prince's band, and don't forget their presence on the Lotusflow3r album. That's them on "Boom", "The Morning After", "4Ever", "$", and "DREAMER".

They are boring as hell.


eek i'd love 2 know why you'd come 2 that conclusion! OMG! i wanna get u by the shoulders & give u a jolly good shake
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Reply #53 posted 04/24/09 7:17am

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you have to realize that every performance on leno and ellen had a completely different lineup. he is creating his own team and determines the "starters" based on his performance.

and ... since they are actively playing with him ... i would say the ARE current band members.
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Reply #54 posted 04/24/09 7:29am

Graycap23

lottielooloo1968 said:

Graycap23 said:


They are boring as hell.


eek i'd love 2 know why you'd come 2 that conclusion! OMG! i wanna get u by the shoulders & give u a jolly good shake

They are what I call paint by the number musicians. Do they play the right notes? Yes. Is their timing correct? Yes.....Do they have that something EXTRA that adds 2 Prince's creativity? NO.....ur hell no.
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Reply #55 posted 04/24/09 7:36am

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Graycap23 said:

lottielooloo1968 said:



eek i'd love 2 know why you'd come 2 that conclusion! OMG! i wanna get u by the shoulders & give u a jolly good shake

They are what I call paint by the number musicians. Do they play the right notes? Yes. Is their timing correct? Yes.....Do they have that something EXTRA that adds 2 Prince's creativity? NO.....ur hell no.


Josh blends in, and doesn't stand out, but he's SOLID. He's a lot like some of the Bass players from D.C. I've worked with.

U R wrong about Cora. She does have a "voice" on drums, and she every bit as powerful as ANY drummer Prince has had. She's solid on the skins, and beats the HELL out of her hi-hat and cymbals where appropriate.

Just because they're not featured as much as previous bass and drums, and play in the background most of the time, means nothing.
[Edited 4/24/09 7:37am]
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Reply #56 posted 04/24/09 7:39am

Graycap23

Giovanni777 said:

Graycap23 said:


They are what I call paint by the number musicians. Do they play the right notes? Yes. Is their timing correct? Yes.....Do they have that something EXTRA that adds 2 Prince's creativity? NO.....ur hell no.


Josh blends in, and doesn't stand out, but he's SOLID. He's a lot like some of the Bass players from D.C. I've worked with.

U R wrong about Cora. She does have a "voice" on drums, and she every bit as powerful as ANY drummer Prince has had. She's solid on the skins, and beats the HELL out of her hi-hat and cymbals where appropriate.

Just because they're not featured as much as previous bass and drums, and play in the background most of the time, means nothing.
[Edited 4/24/09 7:37am]

One listen 2 the 3 concert performances Prince gave a couple of weeks ago says it all.
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Reply #57 posted 04/24/09 8:20am

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Graycap23 said:

Giovanni777 said:



Josh blends in, and doesn't stand out, but he's SOLID. He's a lot like some of the Bass players from D.C. I've worked with.

U R wrong about Cora. She does have a "voice" on drums, and she every bit as powerful as ANY drummer Prince has had. She's solid on the skins, and beats the HELL out of her hi-hat and cymbals where appropriate.

Just because they're not featured as much as previous bass and drums, and play in the background most of the time, means nothing.
[Edited 4/24/09 7:37am]

One listen 2 the 3 concert performances Prince gave a couple of weeks ago says it all.


i heard the conga room show which imo was a bit of a trainwreck at times..josh & cora nowhere in sight...
orgasmic setlist but prince didn't seem on usual form..
go back & listen 2 the trio aftershow in london which is one of the most memorable EVER . those guys stamped their personality all over that show razz
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Reply #58 posted 04/24/09 8:26am

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Supa, ya know I love you, but I really don't follow.
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Reply #59 posted 04/24/09 9:29am

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TRON said:

Supa, ya know I love you, but I really don't follow.


He works with some great musicians and unless they've really had a problem with him (? Mr Fink ?) why shouldn't they come back occasionally ?

Eric Leeds on the ONA DVD for instance - really added to the material, and it was totally 'his bag'

What has been really good recently is Prince selecting 'dream' lineups to interpret the particular slant of various songs.

I love the way all these different musicians add to Prince's original ideas or interpret them with their own style (as much as they are allowed!). No 80s revival - just reusing great musos !
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