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Thread started 04/21/09 12:09pm

DreamyPopRoyal
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The Undertaker

I'm going to be listening to the tracks for the next couple of days, so I thought I'd open up a thread for discussion.
I don't know much about it myself, but I hear its highly regarded around this place.
In fact, I might have heard that a few people preferred it to Come and/or TGE but I could be wrong tease
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/09 2:37pm

3121

"Scotty, shake some". That snare will break your bones. Great recording.
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/09 2:41pm

Elixir

I love it, hit it up last week has been on repeat the whole time.
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Reply #3 posted 04/21/09 3:35pm

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it was the guitar album we'd been waiting for.
[Edited 4/21/09 15:35pm]
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #4 posted 04/21/09 3:47pm

musichead

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its pretty raw for him. just a trio playing of rock tunes with great guitar. i like it.
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Reply #5 posted 04/21/09 4:17pm

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This is how a guitar album should sound, no overdubbing, straight to master. This record had alot of the "rawness" that is really lacking on Lotus, though Lotus has its greatness, the Undertaker blows it out the pool

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #6 posted 04/21/09 4:21pm

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lastdecember said:

This is how a guitar album should sound, no overdubbing, straight to master. This record had alot of the "rawness" that is really lacking on Lotus, though Lotus has its greatness, the Undertaker blows it out the pool


the crazy thing is that to my ears the mix on 'the undertaker' still sounds better, fuller than on most of 'lotusflow3r.'
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Reply #7 posted 04/21/09 7:13pm

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I've heard all but the last two tracks now.

So far, it's been interesting to the least.
But in this case, that is a good thing wink

Haven't heard anything quite like it before. And there's something nice about it just being the three of them in the studio. And it's always fun to hear live guitar solos wink

I've never heard the original version of "Bambi" because I don't own the 2nd album, but that was probably my favorite so far. I totally dig that guitar dancing jig
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Reply #8 posted 04/21/09 8:17pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I've heard all but the last two tracks now.

So far, it's been interesting to the least.
But in this case, that is a good thing wink

Haven't heard anything quite like it before. And there's something nice about it just being the three of them in the studio. And it's always fun to hear live guitar solos wink

I've never heard the original version of "Bambi" because I don't own the 2nd album, but that was probably my favorite so far. I totally dig that guitar dancing jig


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every time he played 'bambi' in '93 was magic.
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Reply #9 posted 04/22/09 9:59am

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It's A "Classic" O+>
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/09 10:03am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I've never heard the original version of "Bambi" because I don't own the 2nd album, but that was probably my favorite so far. I totally dig that guitar dancing jig

Please get it as soon as you can, you're missing out!
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Reply #11 posted 04/22/09 10:07am

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was a big mistake that it was never released. Shows Prince guitar chops better than anything he's done besides Purple Rain to the public.
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/09 10:11am

ernestsewell

It's probably some of Prince's angriest guitar playing in his 31 professional years. I've always maintained that Prince puts out his best material when he's angry or fighting something. The mid 90's period was truly indicative of that. His playing improved greatly as well during this time. The Undertake is a uber prime example of that.
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Reply #13 posted 04/22/09 10:17am

KAB

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Fantastic album [ep]

Shame it was never released [except as VHS] - or included as a freebie with whatever guitar magazine Prince wanted at the time...
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Reply #14 posted 04/22/09 10:55am

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NouveauDance said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I've never heard the original version of "Bambi" because I don't own the 2nd album, but that was probably my favorite so far. I totally dig that guitar dancing jig

Please get it as soon as you can, you're missing out!


Do it! nod
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Reply #15 posted 04/22/09 12:15pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

NouveauDance said:


Please get it as soon as you can, you're missing out!


Do it! nod


falloff
Funny story here...
Originally, I didn't want the 70's albums because I wanted my collection to embrace Prince's uniqueness. Which started with Dirty Mind, as I'd been told (I got talked into that one too... I wanted my collection to start with 1999... long story)
Someone sent me For You after I heard the album on Emancipation radio and liked it razz

So I figured, I gotta fill in the gaps... and wouldn't you know? FYE up until that point carried the second album and it was the only other album aside from Graffiti Bridge that I didn't pick up while I was at the store lol

Its like they knew I was looking for it hmmm lol another stinkin' conspiracy falloff
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Reply #16 posted 04/22/09 1:13pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

MajesticOne89 said:



Do it! nod


falloff
Funny story here...
Originally, I didn't want the 70's albums because I wanted my collection to embrace Prince's uniqueness. Which started with Dirty Mind, as I'd been told (I got talked into that one too... I wanted my collection to start with 1999... long story)
Someone sent me For You after I heard the album on Emancipation radio and liked it razz

So I figured, I gotta fill in the gaps... and wouldn't you know? FYE up until that point carried the second album and it was the only other album aside from Graffiti Bridge that I didn't pick up while I was at the store lol

Its like they knew I was looking for it hmmm lol another stinkin' conspiracy falloff


Haha, when you listen to it, let me know what you think! Or do one of your big reviews for it and post it
lol
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #17 posted 04/22/09 1:16pm

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lastdecember said:

This is how a guitar album should sound, no overdubbing, straight to master. This record had alot of the "rawness" that is really lacking on Lotus, though Lotus has its greatness, the Undertaker blows it out the pool


I think the music would be a lot better with some overdubs, personally.
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Reply #18 posted 04/22/09 1:20pm

SPYZFAN1

The best "unreleased" P joint. Raw. Wish he would do another one.
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Reply #19 posted 04/22/09 1:34pm

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Finished it off a few hours ago.

It's very nice cool

Dolphin's one of my favorites from TGE so it was nice to hear a somewhat different version of it. The guitar was guitar wink

And when I do get the 2nd album, I'll have my review up here at some point. don't worry wink
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Reply #20 posted 04/22/09 1:39pm

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It's OK. A bit generic rock...like Chaos and disorder. There's no greatness like Colonized mind or Dreamer. Poorgoo's pretty damn cool though
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Reply #21 posted 04/22/09 3:16pm

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Is there only 6 or 7 tracks on The Undertaker?

Or is there some sort of longer version?

Any research I've done has just confused me a little further. Seems to be a studio and live version???
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #22 posted 04/22/09 3:33pm

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this is the correct tracklist:

1. The Ride (10:54)
2. Poor Goo (4:26)
3. Honky Tonk Women (3:00)
4. Bambi (4:49)
5. The Undertaker (9:50)
6. Dolphin (3:40)

the album was recorded on the paisley park sound stage, mostly in single takes. michael b said it only took them a couple of hours, start to finish.

the video was made while they were recording.

some bootleg versions actually take the audio from the laserdisc, so some sounds from the film can be heard that are not actually on the cd version.

other bootlegs are just ripped from one of the original cds.
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Reply #23 posted 04/22/09 3:41pm

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Absolutely love his version of the song The Undertaker from that. Had a chance to hear it a couple times live at Paisley Park in the mid 90s.
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Reply #24 posted 04/23/09 7:45pm

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Dazza said:

It's OK. A bit generic rock...like Chaos and disorder. There's no greatness like Colonized mind or Dreamer. Poorgoo's pretty damn cool though


Dreamer and Colonized Mind are great BUT way too polished, the undertaker shows how well Prince can be when not "produced" and "multitracked" theres tons of studio tricks on his newer stuff. So with that said, you can take tracks from undertaker and play them at shows and get an even better effect, i doubt Prince can get the same effect from the Lotus tracks live, and this is coming from someone thats seen him 75 times, the new album, though great, way too polished.

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