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Reply #270 posted 04/21/09 10:43am

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laurarichardson said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

sorry but i have 2 falloff and how some r reacting 2 not seeing him on ellen when ur tv will work just as fine and with close ups ..wow ..

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I am glad you can laugh at the fact that your too poor to afford the site instead of bitch about eek



fyi i'm on the website so ur mistaken what i'm laughing about hah! now i'm laughing at u 4 ur assumption
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #271 posted 04/21/09 12:02pm

Lotus2unfld

peace
(don't take me too seriously)
[Edited 4/21/09 5:41am]
[/quote]

Holding hands is very serious thing cuz u r making connection with energy flow cool It's just better 2 get know the person verbally 1st blahblah


*deep sigh* yeah I hear ya on the energy flow. There all kinds of energy...some good...some beautiful and some to stay one's foot from and keep distance...if one can.

if one can't, if they are surrounded, then they better learn other ways to kick it off....and overcome it. There are ways.... if one's Will is strong enough...and focus clear enough. however that's getting off into the fringes of another topic entirely.


But back to the holding hands issue. *giggle* Uhm, .... what? There are many ways to connect with or project the energy flow... you don't have to touch to do it. ::smile:::

For instance, I believe there's energy flow all around us, in the wind, in the ocean, also there's energy flow that's physical attraction, and then..... there's..... shhhhh.....

TUMISET.

a sacred word. a sacred flow.


Prince throws some strong tumiset. Probably why we're all half crazy. hehehehe..... Its heady stuff, a very powerful energy.
I have never seen a Man throw tumiset, except for him. He's the only one.
I don't know why that is, It just is.

(don't get jealous guys, the ladies still love ya, if you treat them right)

But I look at him sometimes and think.... that's a king... from long ago. No doubt about it. Now I wasn't raised to believe in past lives, however, in this stage of my life.... I begin to wonder, question the accuracy of what I had always been told....for various reasons. I'm sure there has been some truth, in what I've been told,
but who knows all ? Except God in His Heaven ?

As far as holding hands go, well you gotta go with the flow. smile I was just clowning around with ya before. (in prev.posts)
but, now I speak more seriously, gently... and pray you remember...If it feels right...you'll know....don't be shy....if he takes yours then hold his hand. And if you have the guts, look him in the eye..


Feel the sacred. (not a bad title for a song, btw)

I still think its okay to hold hands... it's okay to enjoy holding hands...its not immoral or spiritually corrupting. If there's no shame in dining with the person, there's no shame in holding hands. As long as they don't have leprosy. LOLOL. Ok. ok. maybe its not that funny. struck me that way at the time I originally posted.

I was just trying to tickle your funny bone. Laughter is a good energy too, IMHO. One ...one of the best. Good for the heart, good for the soul.

I hope I'm not coming off as condescending. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. You gotta do what you feel is right for you.

Just Live...enjoy ...breathe in love, breathe in life. Dont let anyone try to beat it out of your soul. Don't let anyone's energy even try. not even yourself. be faster and smarter than me.

I'm sure you won't. It sounds like you have some nice friends around you, in your orbit that care about you. That's a beautiful thing.
A Pearl of Great Price...as it were.

I pray you peace, Love, and happiness.

I take my leave now.

Peace
[Edited 4/22/09 16:18pm]
this is the time of the first fast.
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Reply #272 posted 04/21/09 12:03pm

MRGee

Just watching Ellen and they said Wednesday Prince. So it's On. Lucky people getting to see this.
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Reply #273 posted 04/21/09 12:58pm

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falloff at this thread
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #274 posted 04/21/09 1:01pm

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psychodelicide said:

Just got this email from Lotusflow3r:

Ellen tix just released
Dear XXXXX,

We've just released a select few tix to the Ellen DeGeneres show this Wednesday in Los Angeles, CA.

Head to your account area in the galaxy to get them while they last!

Sincerely,
LotusFlow3r.com


People need to read the above statement VERY CAREFULLY!! See the BOLD print above, read over and over A SELECT FEW.... key words people.... key words nod.

wall
[Edited 4/21/09 13:02pm]
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #275 posted 04/21/09 1:40pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

laurarichardson said:


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I am glad you can laugh at the fact that your too poor to afford the site instead of bitch about eek



fyi i'm on the website so ur mistaken what i'm laughing about hah! now i'm laughing at u 4 ur assumption

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What's your point then or maybe you don't have one. wink
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Reply #276 posted 04/21/09 1:41pm

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toots said:

psychodelicide said:

Just got this email from Lotusflow3r:

Ellen tix just released
Dear XXXXX,

We've just released a select few tix to the Ellen DeGeneres show this Wednesday in Los Angeles, CA.

Head to your account area in the galaxy to get them while they last!

Sincerely,
LotusFlow3r.com


People need to read the above statement VERY CAREFULLY!! See the BOLD print above, read over and over A SELECT FEW.... key words people.... key words nod.

wall
[Edited 4/21/09 13:02pm]

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That can't read or they enjoy bitching
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Reply #277 posted 04/21/09 2:28pm

rbrpm

Let's hope the jw's don't mind or do they? biggrin
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Reply #278 posted 04/21/09 4:41pm

sexyeyeliner

toots said:

psychodelicide said:

Just got this email from Lotusflow3r:

Ellen tix just released
Dear XXXXX,

We've just released a select few tix to the Ellen DeGeneres show this Wednesday in Los Angeles, CA.

Head to your account area in the galaxy to get them while they last!

Sincerely,
LotusFlow3r.com


People need to read the above statement VERY CAREFULLY!! See the BOLD print above, read over and over A SELECT FEW.... key words people.... key words nod.

wall
[Edited 4/21/09 13:02pm]


That's what I was thinking! This is what they did for the Leno show, too. But, you're right...I got excited to see the email and rushed over to the site without reading carefully. LOL Thanks for posting this. Hopefully it will calm ppl down. But...on this board? I doubt it. confused ha
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Reply #279 posted 04/21/09 8:59pm

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laurarichardson said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




fyi i'm on the website so ur mistaken what i'm laughing about hah! now i'm laughing at u 4 ur assumption

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What's your point then or maybe you don't have one. wink


my point was that i was laughing at how people get all worked up over not being able 2 go 2 a tv taping when it will b aired the next day on tv ..rolleyes

do we need 2 get the internet 4 dummies book 4 u?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #280 posted 04/21/09 10:27pm

sexyeyeliner

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile
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Reply #281 posted 04/22/09 3:31am

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sexyeyeliner said:

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile

Here's a question for you: why are you harping on us when you know NOTHING about us?

In ur post u assume that we posters/orgers don't get out and enjoy the sunshine. What about you? Do you or do u just post all day like we "supposedly" do.

You are not my or anyones parents here. My parents already raised me ty.And the way I see it I don't need to report my every move to u since YOU do not pay my or anyones here bills.

Appearently YOU do have a problem when u took it upon urself to post ur post and scold us.

Shall we get back to the topic ty
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #282 posted 04/22/09 5:03am

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wow ppl sure get worked up over trivial things.. hah

well guess I don't have to get up early to watch it xD.. here I thought there might have been something decent to see on that blasted tube for once.. it only gets watched like twice a week for like not even an hour.. (figure I should see whats goin' on once in a while)
I AM RAVER!
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Reply #283 posted 04/22/09 5:23am

sexyeyeliner

toots said:

sexyeyeliner said:

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile

Here's a question for you: why are you harping on us when you know NOTHING about us?

In ur post u assume that we posters/orgers don't get out and enjoy the sunshine. What about you? Do you or do u just post all day like we "supposedly" do.

You are not my or anyones parents here. My parents already raised me ty.And the way I see it I don't need to report my every move to u since YOU do not pay my or anyones here bills.

Appearently YOU do have a problem when u took it upon urself to post ur post and scold us.

Shall we get back to the topic ty


I was being facetious.

No I don't sit on here all day lurking or posting. You can look at my member stats to see for yourself. wink

And, you're right. I don't know anything about you or the others. I just know you are rude. And, I'm certainly not trying to be your parent. LOL

smile

In other news, I really was hoping for another e-mail sent out. Ah, well. Can't have EVERYTHING. Have fun to those of you that got tix!!
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Reply #284 posted 04/22/09 6:47am

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toots said:

sexyeyeliner said:

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile

Here's a question for you: why are you harping on us when you know NOTHING about us?

In ur post u assume that we posters/orgers don't get out and enjoy the sunshine. What about you? Do you or do u just post all day like we "supposedly" do.

You are not my or anyones parents here. My parents already raised me ty.And the way I see it I don't need to report my every move to u since YOU do not pay my or anyones here bills.

Appearently YOU do have a problem when u took it upon urself to post ur post and scold us.

Shall we get back to the topic ty

No we shall not! mad cause I have something to say on this too lol
I have noticed this also but I've come to this conclusion:
Prince being the sensitive and deeply emotional individual he is will draw ppl of the same nature to himself through his music,
therefore,
those who are very much into his music either are or will become deeply emotional individuals,
therefore,
causin deeply passionate, emotional, heightened outbursts of anger, love, hate and stubborness,
which is why,
the org is the way it is biggrin
Prince pulls the weirdest out-of-the-box types of ppl and that's wat makes the org go round.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #285 posted 04/22/09 10:20am

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Hey Lotus website members, is it too late to qualify for the Ellen show. I just joined this morning, I think I might be too late, I don't see anything on the site about it. [img] cry
U're the reason eye took a rope and lassoed the moon 2 prove that when it comes to you there's nothing that eye won't do. Eye would stare in2 the sun if u would be mine it's not so great a leap since 2 all others I am blind.
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Reply #286 posted 04/22/09 10:39am

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sexyeyeliner said:

toots said:



People need to read the above statement VERY CAREFULLY!! See the BOLD print above, read over and over A SELECT FEW.... key words people.... key words nod.

wall
[Edited 4/21/09 13:02pm]


That's what I was thinking! This is what they did for the Leno show, too. But, you're right...I got excited to see the email and rushed over to the site without reading carefully. LOL Thanks for posting this. Hopefully it will calm ppl down. But...on this board? I doubt it. confused ha


Can you enlighten me please. What was the criteria to get tix? I just joined the Lotus web and missed the statement that was posted.
U're the reason eye took a rope and lassoed the moon 2 prove that when it comes to you there's nothing that eye won't do. Eye would stare in2 the sun if u would be mine it's not so great a leap since 2 all others I am blind.
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Reply #287 posted 04/22/09 11:18am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

laurarichardson said:


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What's your point then or maybe you don't have one. wink


my point was that i was laughing at how people get all worked up over not being able 2 go 2 a tv taping when it will b aired the next day on tv ..rolleyes

do we need 2 get the internet 4 dummies book 4 u?


I know it's too late for tix. But I'm a die hard and not ready to quite give up. I really want to know what Lotusflower said about how to get tix. I'm pretty lucky, I win things often, I just won Prince tickets last month. And I am in LA so I think I may have a [good] chance at getting to see him on Ellen. Thing is, I didn't join Lotusflower earlier ($$) But I just joined - even though I know that it is [probably] too late. My daughter turned 21 yesterday and I've been spending much cheddar to make it a happy one for her. So I didn't join yesterday when I got the email reminder about Ellen. Loooong story short, please tell me that I probably had NO chance to get the tix anyway, so get over it! wink
U're the reason eye took a rope and lassoed the moon 2 prove that when it comes to you there's nothing that eye won't do. Eye would stare in2 the sun if u would be mine it's not so great a leap since 2 all others I am blind.
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Reply #288 posted 04/22/09 11:31am

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WOW beatdeadhorse
Pray Daily!!!!! RIP AMY WINEHOUSE Keep Calm, Carry on
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Reply #289 posted 04/22/09 11:42am

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Lotus2unfld said:

peace
(don't take me too seriously)
[Edited 4/21/09 5:41am]


Holding hands is very serious thing cuz u r making connection with energy flow cool It's just better 2 get know the person verbally 1st blahblah


*deep sigh* yeah I hear ya on the energy flow. There all kinds of energy...some good...some beautiful and some to stay one's foot from and keep distance...if one can.

if one can't, if they are surrounded, then they better learn other ways to kick it off....and overcome it. There are ways.... if one's Will is strong enough...and focus clear enough. however that's getting off into the fringes of another topic entirely.


But back to the holding hands issue. *giggle* Uhm, .... what? There are many ways to connect with or project the energy flow... you don't have to touch to do it. ::smile:::

For instance, I believe there's energy flow all around us, in the wind, in the ocean, also there's energy flow that's physical attraction, and then..... there's..... shhhhh.....

TUMISET.

a sacred word. a sacred flow.


Prince throws some strong tumiset. Probably why we're all half crazy. hehehehe..... Its heady stuff, a very powerful energy.
I have never seen a Man throw tumiset, except for him. He's the only one.
I don't know why that is, It just is.

(don't get jealous guys, the ladies still love ya, if you treat them right)

But I look at him sometimes and think.... that's a king... from long ago. No doubt about it. Now I wasn't raised to believe in past lives, however, in this stage of my life.... I begin to wonder, question the accuracy of what I had always been told....for various reasons. I'm sure there has been some truth, in what I've been told,
but who knows all ? Except God in His Heaven ?

As far as holding hands go, well you gotta go with the flow. smile I was just clowning around with ya before.
but, now I speak more seriously, gently... and pray you remember...If it feels right...you'll know....don't be shy....if he takes yours then hold his hand. And if you have the guts, look him in the eye..


Feel the sacred. (not a bad title for a song, btw)

I still think its okay to hold hands... it's okay to enjoy holding hands...its not immoral or spiritually corrupting. If there's no shame in dining with the person, there's no shame in holding hands. As long as they don't have leprosy. LOLOL. Ok. ok. maybe its not that funny. struck me that way at the time I originally posted.

I was just trying to tickle your funny bone. Laughter is a good energy too, IMHO. One ...one of the best. Good for the heart, good for the soul.

I hope I'm not coming off as condescending. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. You gotta do what you feel is right for you.

Just Live...enjoy ...breathe in love, breathe in life. Dont let anyone try to beat it out of your soul. Don't let anyone's energy even try. not even yourself. be faster and smarter than me.

I'm sure you won't. It sounds like you have some nice friends around you, nin your orbit that care about you. That's a beautiful thing.
A Pearl of Great Price...as it were.

I pray you peace, Love, and happiness.

I take my leave now.

Peace








Thanx Lotus2unfld..that was beautiful and soulful worship I did catch all ur prayers..I hope U catched all the healing butterflies I sent U pray

Now back 2 holding hands..every soul is different and mine is very sensitive one and 2 me holding hands is a very harcore thing 2 do..as is kissing which equals getting engaged physically and having sex equals marriage..so 2 hold hands wíth someone too soon can just ruin the sacred flow..especially if that person is not The One.

But I'm very interested about TUMISET ..sacred word..never heard of this, can't find it with google..please my friend can U xplain?

And yes U did tickle my funny bone and maybe some other bone too lol Laughter is the best thing in life, a prank a day keeps a doctor away thumbs up!

Yep some people have very strong energy flow like our Beloved Prince..very strong aura but still he's just like any of us ordinary folks just trying 2 bcome enligted, for that is what every soul is yearning..Prince has the most extraordinary yin/yang balance I ever seen on a man bow

Peace and heart 2 all under heaven
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Reply #290 posted 04/22/09 12:59pm

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@BeautifulLvdBlssd: Lotusflow3r sent out an email at 11:11pm PST on Monday night saying tickets were NOW vailable on the site. That was pertty much it. So you had to log on and go to the account area of the site to try and get them. However they went wicked fast so most people didn't get tix or even see the screen that offered them.
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Reply #291 posted 04/22/09 1:18pm

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Where are all the Prince fans? Looking around waiting in standby line and I only see 2 other Prince fans!
U know, U know what shoes 2 wear... The 1's so high UR scared!!!
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Reply #292 posted 04/22/09 1:30pm

Orionforever

laurarichardson said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

sorry but i have 2 falloff and how some r reacting 2 not seeing him on ellen when ur tv will work just as fine and with close ups ..wow ..

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I am glad you can laugh at the fact that your too poor to afford the site instead of bitch about eek



I really don't think its a matter of being Too Poor for folks about
joining the Site.. but its just a matter of not EVERYONE has the
time.. nor the High tech computers OR the PC knowledge to fool around
trying to navagate a site...
I mean the old web site.. (the one he had for the 04 tours) was
awesome.... Decent Price... and easy to work with..
Alot of Prince fans are 35-45 and alot of us didnt grow up with
a computer up our Ass...
Alot of the more confussing things are Greek to us.....

I would just like a cool web site that an AVERAGE Joe could go on
and get tickets with out going through mazes or Puzzles.. and
he should have the option for fans to Down load his music/video's
OR he should sell them..... that way those of us with OLDER slower
PC could still see everything...

Just my Opinion .... wink
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Reply #293 posted 04/22/09 1:34pm

Orionforever

sexyeyeliner said:

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile



biggrin I feel the same way on this site..... There are SO
many haters and so many bitter angry folks.. just waiting for a
chance to make fun of some one or say mean things.. or jump all
over Princes Case..... This is suppose to be a PRINCE
FAN web site..... I dislike ALOT of singers/actors.. but I
don't go on THEIR sites and slam them and their loyal fans.. To
each his own.
No mind you.... I'm not saying we have to AGREE with everything
Mr. Nelson does.. or be HAPPY about everything he does.. but my
gosh.... some people are never happy with ANYTHING he does.. They
hate his clothes, his music, make comments about him having
surgery or looking old/thin.. etc etc.. Get over it....
Enjoy life alittle... its VERY short.....
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Reply #294 posted 04/22/09 1:41pm

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WOW! That's all I can say about this thread. WOW!
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #295 posted 04/22/09 1:55pm

IRISHFAN

Emmmmm, not sure if this is an appropriate question for this thread "Prince to perform on the Ellen show" but, did anyone see it? Wasnt it on today? I'd like to hear how that went rather than bore myself to tears reading people arguing over ..... I am not sure actually!!! lol
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Reply #296 posted 04/22/09 2:10pm

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CaptnCrunchBerry said:

Where are all the Prince fans? Looking around waiting in standby line and I only see 2 other Prince fans!

eek
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #297 posted 04/22/09 2:24pm

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Here (in essence) was what Ellen said today:

"Tomorrow is a big day 'cause we're gonna have a guest who we will never see anywhere else on Daytime TV cause he sleeps durin the day.
PRINCE is gonna be here ladies and gentlemen!" (all while pointing the chair excited)
Then she said something about being really excited that he's gonna be there cause he sleeps durin the day and starts his shows at 1am lol
and u kno just the way she said it was funny lol

Can someone quote her word for word?
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #298 posted 04/22/09 2:33pm

alfbo

IRISHFAN said:

Emmmmm, not sure if this is an appropriate question for this thread "Prince to perform on the Ellen show" but, did anyone see it? Wasnt it on today? I'd like to hear how that went rather than bore myself to tears reading people arguing over ..... I am not sure actually!!! lol


It tapes today and will air tomorrow (Thursday).
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Reply #299 posted 04/22/09 2:58pm

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toots said:

sexyeyeliner said:

I shouldn't even say anything because I certainly don't wanna open a can of worms. So, a rhetorical question: Why are some of you so mean to people on here? Is it really necessary? Are you unhappy in life? Does being unnecessarily rude and mean make you feel better about yourself? Go out and enjoy the sunshine. Do something that makes you happy, I dunno. But, dang. I have never been to a board or seen people so bitter and unhappy before as I have here. It's almost comical, but mostly sad. LOL And, don't tell me to go somewhere else if I have a problem with it. Cuz, I'm not the person with the problem. wink


biggrins all around is all you are getting from ME. smile

Here's a question for you: why are you harping on us when you know NOTHING about us?

In ur post u assume that we posters/orgers don't get out and enjoy the sunshine. What about you? Do you or do u just post all day like we "supposedly" do.

You are not my or anyones parents here. My parents already raised me ty.And the way I see it I don't need to report my every move to u since YOU do not pay my or anyones here bills.

Appearently YOU do have a problem when u took it upon urself to post ur post and scold us.

Shall we get back to the topic ty



Toots, you know I love you right! lol

I've been here long enough to have seen this type of post (sexyeyeliner's)...and this post's mama and this post's grandmama and this post's great-grandmama.

yawn

prince.org is a great place to vent, period. Venting the good, the bad, the unhappiness about the bad, the unhappiness about people perceiving that ANYTHING is bad, the unhappiness about the unhappiness and so on and so on.

VIVA la .org!!! headbang
I'm firmly planted in denial
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