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mdiver said: Yeah, fucker, thanks for being pissed people stole from you.  | |
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JerseyKRS said: If I mention the pope in a thread, it's moved to P&R.
WTF. WTF indeed. Jesus christ! I have a bootleg of an old Wendy and Lisa CD, wanna meet up and chat about the next prince concert. Wromg FORUM! Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: If I had any bootlegs of Prince I would still buy the official release, IF HE WOULD BLOODY RELEASE THE DAMN THINGS!!!!!
Not that I have any bootlegs.....oh no...not me.....  I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F.  | |
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What's a bootleg?  | |
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The thing is I have noticed that The Traders Den is down, but Dime is still up and running!!!!! I wonder if this is in connection with the news about Pirate bay!!!!  | |
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Desire2006 said: Well, Prince should have his own bootleg tracker site, like other artists do, like Coldplay, Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks, Genesis/Peter Gabriel, David Bowie, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, REM, INXS, U2, etc., etc., etc.!!!!
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I'd think the chances of this outcome would have been far more likely with the owners of sites that actually hosted copyrighted material. But I honestly think part of what did these guys in is the fact they have been such jerks through all of their legal dramas.
I recall occasional notices by them on the site (not that I file share  ) effectively thumbing their nose at artists and record companies who unsuccessfully went after them. That sort of thing is childish and ultimately did nothing but invigorate subsequent legal efforts, when any number of other sites would have been more obvious "examples" of which to be made... at least outside of Sweden.[Edited 4/17/09 15:08pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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You should never mention his name over here.  | |
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Lammastide said: I'd think the chances of this outcome would have been far more likely with the owners of sites that actually hosted copyrighted material. But I honestly think part of what did these guys in is the fact they have been such jerks through all of their legal dramas.
I recall occasional notices by them on the site (not that I file share :lurking:) effectively thumbing their nose at artists and record companies who unsuccessfully went after them. That sort of thing is childish and ultimately did nothing but invigorate subsequent legal efforts, when any number of other sites would have been more obvious "examples" of which to be made... at least outside of Sweden. Technically, while it's true that they had not hosted any illegal files themselves, they did provide links to torrents to such files, at which point someone with a BitTorrent client could download that material. While I agree with them in principle about being allowed to post links to files which people want to download, and that the movie studios and record companies need to go after actual pirates in their own studios or in post-production facilities who leak copyrighted material, they did act like punks during the whole ordeal. (Not surprising since they are mostly college-age students.) I think that the conviction had as much to do with their attitude as their alleged actions. But now what happens? Are they going to go after Google for providing links to Rapidshare,.Imagevenue, and Megaupload which have the same types of files which were being shared on Pirate Bay and the other torrent tracker sites? From what I've heard about Rapidshare, they do take down illegal copyrighted material once they know about it, but it's very easy to disguise such material and split it into pieces without the copyright owners even knowing about it.  | |
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coolcat said: Tremolina said: Because Pirate bay uses file sharing technology. but they host no materials, so none of the files being shared is actually stored on their servers... they're only provide technology that allows users to share files... at least how I understand it... seems like youtube would be a more legitimate target since people actually store copyrighted materials on the site... [Edited 4/17/09 7:56am] I can't believe youtube hasn't been shut down! My Legacy
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728huey said: Lammastide said:
I'd think the chances of this outcome would have been far more likely with the owners of sites that actually hosted copyrighted material. But I honestly think part of what did these guys in is the fact they have been such jerks through all of their legal dramas.
I recall occasional notices by them on the site (not that I file share :lurking:) effectively thumbing their nose at artists and record companies who unsuccessfully went after them. That sort of thing is childish and ultimately did nothing but invigorate subsequent legal efforts, when any number of other sites would have been more obvious "examples" of which to be made... at least outside of Sweden. Technically, while it's true that they had not hosted any illegal files themselves, they did provide links to torrents to such files, at which point someone with a BitTorrent client could download that material. While I agree with them in principle about being allowed to post links to files which people want to download, and that the movie studios and record companies need to go after actual pirates in their own studios or in post-production facilities who leak copyrighted material, they did act like punks during the whole ordeal. (Not surprising since they are mostly college-age students.) I think that the conviction had as much to do with their attitude as their alleged actions. But now what happens? Are they going to go after Google for providing links to Rapidshare,.Imagevenue, and Megaupload which have the same types of files which were being shared on Pirate Bay and the other torrent tracker sites? From what I've heard about Rapidshare, they do take down illegal copyrighted material once they know about it, but it's very easy to disguise such material and split it into pieces without the copyright owners even knowing about it. It'll be darned interesting to watch. This is certainly a landmark precedent, though I think Tremolina is correct in saying Google and Youtube, for example, are somewhat insulated from such actions. They present a very lucrative marketing function for entertainment media as much as a siphon from their profits. Meanwhile, Pirate Bay is still up and running, and they've turned even this latest development into a joke. Check out their "Press Conference" link. [Edited 4/17/09 20:07pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Google has been a very good boy and has respected artists and labels wishes as best as it can. (dancing baby)
The Pirate Bay assholes on the other hand are going to jail and will be up to their eyeballs in legal fees for the rest of their lives.  [Edited 4/17/09 20:54pm] | |
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NDRU said: coolcat said: but they host no materials, so none of the files being shared is actually stored on their servers... they're only provide technology that allows users to share files... at least how I understand it... seems like youtube would be a more legitimate target since people actually store copyrighted materials on the site... [Edited 4/17/09 7:56am] I can't believe youtube hasn't been shut down! their time is coming..... Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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Just remember, when one is brought down, another rises up. They thought nipping Napster would end most of it. HA! | |
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Didn't other artists complain too?? 
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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moderatorDesire2006 said: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_en_mo/eu_sweden_pirate_bay
Just think all this started when Prince attacked Pirate Bay for putting up his copyrighted stuff!!!! 
I guess our days of downloading bootlegs are becoming very numbered now!!!!!  Prince isn't responsible for their fate. He ain't that powerful. Nice try though... Change it one more time.. | |
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metallicjigolo said: NDRU said: I can't believe youtube hasn't been shut down! their time is coming..... Really? You think so, eh? What's that old saying? If you can't beat them...join them. 
http://www.pcworld.com/ar...ulu.html YouTube Adds Movies and Shows, Goes After Hulu Daniel Ionescu Apr 17, 2009 7:51 am Google took the wraps off a partnership with Hollywood studios bringing movies and TV shows to U.S. consumers via its YouTube video network. Some of the big-named partners inking a deal with YouTube are Sony, CBS, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, BBC, and independent film studio Lions Gate Entertainment. Each agreed to showcase some of its catalog content on the Google-owned video site. Separated from the plethora of user-generated videos, the shows and movies are situated in a dedicated Shows section on YouTube, available from the main page. The content offered will be free to view but it is supported by ads -- the revenue being shared with content owners. YouTube's move to premium content comes to counter the ever-growing popularity of sites like Hulu, which freely offer movies and TV shows for viewing. However, most of the studio movies and shows added on YouTube are more than a decade old (Fantasy Island, Alf, Party of Five), while NBC-owned Hulu offers most of the new shows just a few days after they air on TV. Google is hoping that these full-length movies and video will help YouTube salvage through advertising revenue some of the over $500 million some predict it loses yearly on bandwidth costs. Google TV Ads, also introduced yesterday, will place commercials into the ad breaks of TV programs watched online (the ads cannot be skipped). According to measurement firm Nielsen, YouTube accounts for two-thirds of all video views in the U.S., and last month the site had over 90 million visitors according to comScore. I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Oh and here's the links to the Youtube's new fully authorized offerings:
http://www.youtube.com/movies http://www.youtube.com/shows I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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I get everything I want via madhouse. I have a concert from the musicology tour on dvd and 4 of his concerts from london on dvd and much much more (like a 20cd set with only unreleased material). If prince doesn't release it, we'll get it from somewhere else. [Edited 4/18/09 6:11am] |
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Lammastide said: 728huey said: Lammastide said:
Technically, while it's true that they had not hosted any illegal files themselves, they did provide links to torrents to such files, at which point someone with a BitTorrent client could download that material. While I agree with them in principle about being allowed to post links to files which people want to download, and that the movie studios and record companies need to go after actual pirates in their own studios or in post-production facilities who leak copyrighted material, they did act like punks during the whole ordeal. (Not surprising since they are mostly college-age students.) I think that the conviction had as much to do with their attitude as their alleged actions. But now what happens? Are they going to go after Google for providing links to Rapidshare,.Imagevenue, and Megaupload which have the same types of files which were being shared on Pirate Bay and the other torrent tracker sites? From what I've heard about Rapidshare, they do take down illegal copyrighted material once they know about it, but it's very easy to disguise such material and split it into pieces without the copyright owners even knowing about it. It'll be darned interesting to watch. This is certainly a landmark precedent, though I think Tremolina is correct in saying Google and Youtube, for example, are somewhat insulated from such actions. They present a very lucrative marketing function for entertainment media as much as a siphon from their profits. Meanwhile, Pirate Bay is still up and running, and they've turned even this latest development into a joke. Check out their "Press Conference" link. [Edited 4/17/09 20:07pm] "Don't worry-we're from the internets." I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Vendetta1 said: What's a bootleg?
You are complaining about Pirate Bay when you are a pirate yourself? Bootlegs are the ultimate piracy. | |
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Tremolina said: Vendetta1 said: What's a bootleg?
You are complaining about Pirate Bay when you are a pirate yourself? Bootlegs are the ultimate piracy.  | |
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Vendetta1 said: What's a bootleg?
It's the leg of a boot |
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Desire2006 said: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_en_mo/eu_sweden_pirate_bay
Just think all this started when Prince attacked Pirate Bay for putting up his copyrighted stuff!!!!
I guess our days of downloading bootlegs are becoming very numbered now!!!!! No more candy 4 u I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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NDRU said: coolcat said: but they host no materials, so none of the files being shared is actually stored on their servers... they're only provide technology that allows users to share files... at least how I understand it... seems like youtube would be a more legitimate target since people actually store copyrighted materials on the site... [Edited 4/17/09 7:56am] I can't believe youtube hasn't been shut down! Maybe because they remove copyright material when it comes to their attention. If they stuck two fingers up when someone made a remove request, they wouldn't last long. RIP  | |
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