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Reply #30 posted 04/15/09 1:44pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Marrk is asking for people to explain why they think he's great now as opposed to the past. He's inviting participation and discussion. Why does that deserve a slap?

No he's not. He's coming on here sounding self-righteous talking about how he was around to see that so-called "golden period" and anyone who became a fan years after that decade known as the 80's and thinks that Dance 4 Me is the bomb and is as good or better than Controversy is nuts. If it's how they view it, so what? I was a fan in the 80's so it doesn't apply to me cause I've found something to like from all eras but it does to others and if you want respect, you show it first. Fans have the right to like whatever period of Prince they want but honestly, this makes Marrk look like a asshole, and I'm not sure if he is one or not but this is not a good look and that's why he's being called on it.


Charming.

I love Prince, i'm just concerned he can't kll it in Paisley Park or the L.A studios or wherever his head is.

Don't get me wrong he has great tracks on every album but he is horribly inconsistant, more so than ever when he puts out an album.

He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.
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Reply #31 posted 04/15/09 1:44pm

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Maybe you get respect when you show it yourself.


I did. He's the best live act in the world, i already said that, has been for years. And you highlighted that.

But that isn't the issue. His recent albums are really. JUST. NOT. AS. GOOD. AS. HE. ONCE. WAS.!


You don´t even know the meaning of the word,if you think your quote was respectful.
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Reply #32 posted 04/15/09 1:45pm

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purplecam said:


Nobody said that you wasn't there and shouldn't be able to voice what you experienced. Shit I was there too and I talk about my experiences from 20 + years ago as a kid who was a big Prince fan at that time but to come off as disregarding what others say who wasn't there when we were is wrong and that's my point.


Disregarding like telling those of us who have been on this ride from the beginning to leave the site?! lol

I see where they are coming from. They have the right to say it just like you have the right to stay here.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #33 posted 04/15/09 1:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Disregarding like telling those of us who have been on this ride from the beginning to leave the site?! lol

I see where they are coming from. They have the right to say it just like you have the right to stay here.


Yeah and watch someone get slapped to Mars when they try that crap on me.
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Reply #34 posted 04/15/09 1:46pm

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So far, no new schoolers have put up a solid argument lol
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Reply #35 posted 04/15/09 1:46pm

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Marrk said:

purplecam said:


No he's not. He's coming on here sounding self-righteous talking about how he was around to see that so-called "golden period" and anyone who became a fan years after that decade known as the 80's and thinks that Dance 4 Me is the bomb and is as good or better than Controversy is nuts. If it's how they view it, so what? I was a fan in the 80's so it doesn't apply to me cause I've found something to like from all eras but it does to others and if you want respect, you show it first. Fans have the right to like whatever period of Prince they want but honestly, this makes Marrk look like a asshole, and I'm not sure if he is one or not but this is not a good look and that's why he's being called on it.


Charming.

I love Prince, i'm just concerned he can't kll it in Paisley Park or the L.A studios or wherever his head is.

Don't get me wrong he has great tracks on every album but he is horribly inconsistant, more so than ever when he puts out an album.

He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.

How do you know all of this? Some of this stuff will never be heard live.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #36 posted 04/15/09 1:46pm

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purplecam said:


No he's not. He's coming on here sounding self-righteous talking about how he was around to see that so-called "golden period" and anyone who became a fan years after that decade known as the 80's and thinks that Dance 4 Me is the bomb and is as good or better than Controversy is nuts. If it's how they view it, so what? I was a fan in the 80's so it doesn't apply to me cause I've found something to like from all eras but it does to others and if you want respect, you show it first. Fans have the right to like whatever period of Prince they want but honestly, this makes Marrk look like a asshole, and I'm not sure if he is one or not but this is not a good look and that's why he's being called on it.


Charming.

I love Prince, i'm just concerned he can't kll it in Paisley Park or the L.A studios or wherever his head is.

Don't get me wrong he has great tracks on every album but he is horribly inconsistant, more so than ever when he puts out an album.

He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


Gosh how would you know what he's thinking. lol You're making alot assumptions. This is where Prince is at right now, 30 years later. If you find yourself consistently unsatisfied, you really need to find another artist that makes your more happy. There are plently out there.
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Reply #37 posted 04/15/09 1:47pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


I see where they are coming from. They have the right to say it just like you have the right to stay here.


Yeah and watch someone get slapped to Mars when they try that crap on me.

It'll happen at some point so get ready. nod
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Reply #38 posted 04/15/09 1:47pm

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wonder505 said:

Marrk said:



Charming.

I love Prince, i'm just concerned he can't kll it in Paisley Park or the L.A studios or wherever his head is.

Don't get me wrong he has great tracks on every album but he is horribly inconsistant, more so than ever when he puts out an album.

He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


Gosh how would you know what he's thinking. lol You're making alot assumptions. This is where Prince is at right now, 30 years later. If you find yourself consistently unsatisfied, you really need to find another artist that makes your more happy. There are plently out there.


Me'Shell N'Degeocello
PJ Harvey
Radiohead

Yup, they're out there nod
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Reply #39 posted 04/15/09 1:47pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Yeah and watch someone get slapped to Mars when they try that crap on me.

It'll happen at some point so get ready. nod

I was born ready lol
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Reply #40 posted 04/15/09 1:48pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


It'll happen at some point so get ready. nod

I was born ready lol

Whatever.
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Reply #41 posted 04/15/09 1:49pm

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Marrk said:



He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


You don't know how excited I was for Life of The Party when I heard it live. I thought it was going to be the revolution of all musical revolutions from how incredible it was live. Studio, not so much lol
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Reply #42 posted 04/15/09 1:51pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Marrk said:



He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


You don't know how excited I was for Life of The Party when I heard it live. I thought it was going to be the revolution of all musical revolutions from how incredible it was live. Studio, not so much lol


Funny, I had the same reaction. lol
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Reply #43 posted 04/15/09 1:53pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Marrk said:



He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


You don't know how excited I was for Life of The Party when I heard it live. I thought it was going to be the revolution of all musical revolutions from how incredible it was live. Studio, not so much lol

Luckily, I heard the studio version 1st before I saw it live so I appreciated the song that much more after hearing it live, even though I wish the live version was the studio version.
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Reply #44 posted 04/15/09 1:54pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



You don't know how excited I was for Life of The Party when I heard it live. I thought it was going to be the revolution of all musical revolutions from how incredible it was live. Studio, not so much lol

Luckily, I heard the studio version 1st before I saw it live so I appreciated the song that much more after hearing it live, even though I wish the live version was the studio version.

So we agree! See, that didn't hurt did it? lol

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Reply #45 posted 04/15/09 1:56pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


Luckily, I heard the studio version 1st before I saw it live so I appreciated the song that much more after hearing it live, even though I wish the live version was the studio version.

So we agree! See, that didn't hurt did it? lol

wink

Oh please, get over yourself lol That'll happen sometimes. smile
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Reply #46 posted 04/15/09 1:57pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


So we agree! See, that didn't hurt did it? lol

wink

Oh please, get over yourself lol That'll happen sometimes. smile

Me? Get over myself? Nevah! biggrin

It will happen always if you just give in to the light innocent angel
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Reply #47 posted 04/15/09 1:58pm

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wonder505 said:

Marrk said:



Charming.

I love Prince, i'm just concerned he can't kll it in Paisley Park or the L.A studios or wherever his head is.

Don't get me wrong he has great tracks on every album but he is horribly inconsistant, more so than ever when he puts out an album.

He has a problem if folks are thinking "That'll sound great live" and i almost guarantee that is happening. He's using these albums as advertisement for live shows.


Gosh how would you know what he's thinking. lol You're making alot assumptions. This is where Prince is at right now, 30 years later. If you find yourself consistently unsatisfied, you really need to find another artist that makes your more happy. There are plently out there.




I'm not saying he is thinking that. I'm saying some of his fans are. consistantly, he turns seemingly rubbish songs into golddust live in concert. And he will do forevermore.For the zillionth time, Prince makes me happy playing live, he's awesome.

But why can't they be gold in the first place?, I don't salivate to watch 1st Avenue's performance of DMSR over switching off the album version, but i'd rather watch 'Life O' The Party' over the album version any day.

Understand?
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Reply #48 posted 04/15/09 1:59pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


Oh please, get over yourself lol That'll happen sometimes. smile

Me? Get over myself? Nevah! biggrin

It will happen always if you just give in to the light innocent angel

Well that light is awfully dim. And No, I'm not going in your direction biggrin lol
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Reply #49 posted 04/15/09 2:00pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Me? Get over myself? Nevah! biggrin

It will happen always if you just give in to the light innocent angel

Well that light is awfully dim. And No, I'm not going in your direction biggrin lol

The only reason why you can't see very well is because you've been blinded by the brilliance! lol
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Reply #50 posted 04/15/09 2:01pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


Well that light is awfully dim. And No, I'm not going in your direction biggrin lol

The only reason why you can't see very well is because you've been blinded by the brilliance! lol

confuse I don't wanna know what that means. lol
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Reply #51 posted 04/15/09 2:09pm

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


The only reason why you can't see very well is because you've been blinded by the brilliance! lol

confuse I don't wanna know what that means. lol


it means me.

Brilliant, and not at all an asshole. lol
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Reply #52 posted 04/15/09 2:18pm

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purplecam said:


confuse I don't wanna know what that means. lol


it means me.

Brilliant, and not at all an asshole. lol


I'm convinced the 'old schooler's' will always know the true PRINCE.
The 'new schooler's' have seen Prince in a different light.

If anything can sum up Prince in todays market, he's gone mainstream
and has completely fallen on his face. Back in the day, he didnt care
and released some damn good stuff...risking it all. Now, we gett over-dubbed
voices and been done before voices--from Cher CD's. Prince rocks he's just
trying to hard to fit in now....and it REALLY SHOW's!

GMAN
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Reply #53 posted 04/15/09 2:48pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

3121 said:




Perhaps if you enjoyed the 'golden age' of Prince so much, you could respect and others to equally enjoy what could well be theirs?


This is possible. We can do this. People can't accept any criticism of their God. That's the problem.


That's it in a nutshell right there. And it's not just the new schoolers. There's a few old schoolers also that think Prince created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. lol
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Reply #54 posted 04/15/09 2:57pm

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That's it in a nutshell right there. And it's not just the new schoolers. There's a few old schoolers also that think Prince created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. lol

Or eighth album
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Reply #56 posted 04/15/09 4:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So far, no new schoolers have put up a solid argument lol


Maybe some might've agreed with this :

BigDaddyHQ said:

I'm old skool... but I'm not stuck there. I still enjoy much of the music he makes now... as much as I did then. I don't hold Prince to some lofty and very unrealistic expectation some do. 30+ years is a long..long time. I take every album as it comes and don't stress myself worrying about if it will be as good as Sign o' the Times or Lovesexy. Heck of the latest releases... I feel that MPLSound is one of his best albums ever. In My Opinion... it rates right behind SOTT, Lovesexy and the Gold Experience in a group of albums which include 1999, Purple Rain, the Black Album and IMO...3121. Lotusflow3r rates middle of the pack...but favorably so in the midst of The Symbol Album, Batman, Musicology and Parade. And just on GP... the albums I don't like on the whole are Graffit Bridge, Rainbow Children, NEWS and New Power Soul. Everything else falls somewhere in between.

but....hey... those are just my opinons and only matters to anyone else in the context of having some 'good' discussion about what we like and don't like about the albums.

The very content of your post answers your own question. You are not giving respect to those who like the current output.... yet you feel that they should respect your opinons. What you're doing is talking down on the current content. Most people are or are in part defined by the music they listen to. So it you insult that music... it is taken as if you insult them as well. And many people do insult people who like the current music directly in the context of stating their opinions... but claim innocence as if they are oblivious to what they are actually doing.

No one should have to explain to you or justify their opinion about their music. You have a right to your opinion as well. But the problem you state your opinion as if it was fact. People who do this seem dead set on convincing others that their 'negative' opinion is the correct one and is indeed fact... which it clearly isn't.

And your opinion...valid or not... as stated is certainly a 'negative' opinion. Negative opinions are seldom met with positive responses. Negativity begots negativity.

Some people have the ability to state their opinions..even negative ones and not be critiqued for it because they don't try to force their opinion down the throats of others as any thing more than just that... an opinion. Mutual respect is key... but when you speak negativity and you talk down on others in the content of that negativity.... you are not showing any respect for other people's opinons. So if you don't give respect... why expect respect?

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Reply #57 posted 04/15/09 4:19pm

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I feel I dropped a few IQ points by starting to read this thread. lurking
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Reply #58 posted 04/15/09 5:16pm

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I feel I dropped a few IQ points by starting to read this thread. lurking

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Reply #59 posted 04/15/09 5:24pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

Marrk said:

We lived the dream, when Prince was innovative, #1 everwhere, respected, and truly a great, interesting artist in the studio.

'Interesting' is the operative word right here. He no longer is as interesting as he was, simple as. His albums are now boring after a short time, and worst still, derivative of himself, a pale shadow of what he was. Honestly 25% of his new material is great. Is this good enough really?

The only thing he is good for right now is hitting the stage, then he is the best in the World, no doubt about that. I don't understand why, so in keeping with the thread title, 'School' me on why you consider he is great 'now' as opposed to back 'then'.



I'm old skool... but I'm not stuck there. I still enjoy much of the music he makes now... as much as I did then. I don't hold Prince to some lofty and very unrealistic expectation some do. 30+ years is a long..long time. I take every album as it comes and don't stress myself worrying about if it will be as good as Sign o' the Times or Lovesexy. Heck of the latest releases... I feel that MPLSound is one of his best albums ever. In My Opinion... it rates right behind SOTT, Lovesexy and the Gold Experience in a group of albums which include 1999, Purple Rain, the Black Album and IMO...3121. Lotusflow3r rates middle of the pack...but favorably so in the midst of The Symbol Album, Batman, Musicology and Parade. And just on GP... the albums I don't like on the whole are Graffit Bridge, Rainbow Children, NEWS and New Power Soul. Everything else falls somewhere in between.

but....hey... those are just my opinons and only matters to anyone else in the context of having some 'good' discussion about what we like and don't like about the albums.

The very content of your post answers your own question. You are not giving respect to those who like the current output.... yet you feel that they should respect your opinons. What you're doing is talking down on the current content. Most people are or are in part defined by the music they listen to. So it you insult that music... it is taken as if you insult them as well. And many people do insult people who like the current music directly in the context of stating their opinions... but claim innocence as if they are oblivious to what they are actually doing.

No one should have to explain to you or justify their opinion about their music. You have a right to your opinion as well. But the problem you state your opinion as if it was fact. People who do this seem dead set on convincing others that their 'negative' opinion is the correct one and is indeed fact... which it clearly isn't.

And your opinion...valid or not... as stated is certainly a 'negative' opinion. Negative opinions are seldom met with positive responses. Negativity begots negativity.

Some people have the ability to state their opinions..even negative ones and not be critiqued for it because they don't try to force their opinion down the throats of others as any thing more than just that... an opinion. Mutual respect is key... but when you speak negativity and you talk down on others in the content of that negativity.... you are not showing any respect for other people's opinons. So if you don't give respect... why expect respect?



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