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Thread started 04/12/09 11:07pm

rainbowchild

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U2 and Springteen had #1 albums this year; why can't Prince have one?

Did he blew it by releasing the album exclusively on Target or those artists just have bigger fan base? Considering all 3 acts had #1 albums in the 80s, it would have been nice if they did it again this year. Prince fell short. What could he have done? I think Prince should have made albums available on iTunes at least 2 increase first week sales.
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Reply #1 posted 04/12/09 11:11pm

ernestsewell

There's no guarantee an iTunes download would have increased sales by any significant means. It means some people might have exchanged a CD for a digital copy. It could have still been held from foreign iTunes stores, and only made available to the US users. I think Lotus will end up somewhere else in another year or two, like iTunes.

Prince at least had a #1 in this decade, but even that was fishy.
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Reply #2 posted 04/12/09 11:51pm

rainbowchild

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ernestsewell said:

There's no guarantee an iTunes download would have increased sales by any significant means. It means some people might have exchanged a CD for a digital copy. It could have still been held from foreign iTunes stores, and only made available to the US users. I think Lotus will end up somewhere else in another year or two, like iTunes.

Prince at least had a #1 in this decade, but even that was fishy.


A 3-disc album priced at $11.98 would have gotten a lot of attention at iTunes even among casual Prince fans and would have downloaded. I, for example, a casual Depeche Mode fan (I love their 80s stuff) would be inclined 2 download their new album on iTunes (which comes out btw in a couple of weeks) than actively go out to Target 2 buy it.
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Reply #3 posted 04/13/09 1:42am

BoySimon

Because he AIN'T that POPULAR.
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Reply #4 posted 04/13/09 1:55am

GMAN2000

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Because he AIN'T that POPULAR.


Once again his 'EGO' ruined another promising project.

Bottomline, he wont ever learn...he doesnt care for music executives nor
the music 'biz'...

But then 'attempts' at mimicing the same misfortunes of what he does'nt care for.

If he was smart he should have released three cds. 1-at target 1-on iTunes and another 1-at his online website. Spreading the cd's over three different locations and he probably would have had at least 1 #1 record for that week.
I would have left off the Bria CD in its entirety,...he easily could have had a triple release CD.....

Anyways...he didnt and he's #2...hope he learns next time?

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Reply #5 posted 04/13/09 3:05am

BoySimon

NO... it's because he ain't as popular as U2 or Springsteen and that's why, in a quiet week, he ain't no.1. BUT... I'm sure he'll tell you.., it ain't about the charts...

...hey, as long as people ,ike me keep shilling out our $77, he don't give a flying fuck. So long as we do that and then turn up at the concert, he'll keep putting CDs out every few years.
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Reply #6 posted 04/13/09 3:58am

dance4me

The year is not over yet...and hopefully he will tour, which would help. Let's not 4get the fact that Bruce Springteen did the superbowl half-time show right around the time his cd came out. Also, Both Bruce & U2 had Rolling Stone covers( with glowing reviews-surprise surprise.(Isn't it funny how much Rolling Stone coddles BS & U2-either of them could put out a cd singing "happy birthday" and Rolling Stone would call it a classic and drool all over themselves). I think it's quite good that P got the #2 spot without all the hoopla-and he is #1 on TWO other charts!
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Reply #7 posted 04/13/09 4:31am

BoySimon

yeah, but he still ain't as popular as U2 or Springsteen... and that's why he ain't got a No.1 this week.
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Reply #8 posted 04/13/09 5:09am

Whitnail

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Who really gives a shit, if prince was that popular, i am not sure most of us would be fans. I have seen both live, plus MJ, and believe me only U2 come near Prince live, Springsteen is boring and jackson is a...
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Reply #9 posted 04/13/09 5:19am

Dan

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Haven't people realised yet?

Prince doesn't care about the charts, he just wants to get his music out there and is exploring new ways of doing so.

He is well aware of all business opportunities and does exactly what he wants and as he pleases.

...and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Reply #10 posted 04/13/09 6:00am

jimino1

if he had maybe made it a double album (mmm...sound familiar?) instead of a triple release - and sold it through more than just target then he'd have had a better chance.....but really who cares...I'd prefer to judge he albums by their merit rather than their sales....Lovesexy bombed but its one of my favourites....The Truth album was hidden amongst Crystal Ball but it is my favourite Prince album so far...same goes for TRC, Exodus, Gold, ATWIAD....hell even 1999 didn't sell as many as the albums released after it - does that make it a weaker album?

but yeah, I think its more a wake up call - he's just not 'touching the current generation' as he did in the 80's...and really that shouldn't be a surprise...he's not 'of' this current generation of 'pop' culture.... those days are gone - and the timing of Purple Rain etc etc just can't be repeated....move on....

being No.2 ain't too bad at all when u consider that he's had no major airplay for the last 10-15 years - except for his mid 80's 'old/classic' material....
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Reply #11 posted 04/13/09 6:04am

Dayclear

rainbowchild said:

Did he blew it by releasing the album exclusively on Target or those artists just have bigger fan base? Considering all 3 acts had #1 albums in the 80s, it would have been nice if they did it again this year. Prince fell short. What could he have done? I think Prince should have made albums available on iTunes at least 2 increase first week sales.

You act like your life and happiness depend on Prince's success. It's time to get a life. confused
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Reply #12 posted 04/13/09 6:11am

garganta

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Bah, number 2 is good enough for me
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Reply #13 posted 04/13/09 6:48am

Milty

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i bet if you counted the online sales from the website and added them to the Target numbers, it would be number 1.
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Reply #14 posted 04/13/09 8:07am

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rainbowchild said:

Did he blew it by releasing the album exclusively on Target or those artists just have bigger fan base? Considering all 3 acts had #1 albums in the 80s, it would have been nice if they did it again this year. Prince fell short. What could he have done? I think Prince should have made albums available on iTunes at least 2 increase first week sales.


this gonna sound foolish.. but Bruce and U2 have more "white fans" and they are more white people in the usa?????
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Reply #15 posted 04/13/09 8:09am

Close2u

My baby is and always will be my #1 <3
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Reply #16 posted 04/13/09 9:04am

TwiliteKid

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myloveis4ever said:

rainbowchild said:

Did he blew it by releasing the album exclusively on Target or those artists just have bigger fan base? Considering all 3 acts had #1 albums in the 80s, it would have been nice if they did it again this year. Prince fell short. What could he have done? I think Prince should have made albums available on iTunes at least 2 increase first week sales.


this gonna sound foolish.. but Bruce and U2 have more "white fans" and they are more white people in the usa?????


You're right, it does sound foolish. There are way more white people than black at Prince shows.
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Reply #17 posted 04/13/09 9:22am

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Whitnail said:

Who really gives a shit,

Besides Prince and "fams" here? Nobody.
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Reply #18 posted 04/13/09 9:27am

RodeoSchro

Milty said:

i bet if you counted the online sales from the website and added them to the Target numbers, it would be number 1.


I bet you're right.
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Reply #19 posted 04/13/09 9:31am

LondonStyle

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GMAN2000 said:

BoySimon said:

Because he AIN'T that POPULAR.


Once again his 'EGO' ruined another promising project.

Bottomline, he wont ever learn...he doesnt care for music executives nor
the music 'biz'...

But then 'attempts' at mimicing the same misfortunes of what he does'nt care for.

If he was smart he should have released three cds. 1-at target 1-on iTunes and another 1-at his online website. Spreading the cd's over three different locations and he probably would have had at least 1 #1 record for that week.
I would have left off the Bria CD in its entirety,...he easily could have had a triple release CD.....

Anyways...he didnt and he's #2...hope he learns next time?

GMAN


RUBBISH he's not number 1 for one reason only from hearing this CD in full this weekend ...Radio does not play Prince...because the radio is owned by record companies...all over the world... biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 04/13/09 9:51am

WisdomNLove

rainbowchild said:

Did he blew it by releasing the album exclusively on Target or those artists just have bigger fan base? Considering all 3 acts had #1 albums in the 80s, it would have been nice if they did it again this year. Prince fell short. What could he have done? I think Prince should have made albums available on iTunes at least 2 increase first week sales.



he would have definitely without a doubt landed at #1 had the albums been available on itunes but it doesnt even matter at this point, just getting to #2 with Target alone is an amazing accomplishment

BoySimon PRINCE is THAT popular. He is THAT guy. its just that MANY Prince fans arent that obvious, I know many people who are fans who dont outright say it or display it or even come to these boards. Prince is just as popular as U2 and Springstein

also Prince has PLENTY of teenage fans, studies show teenagers prefer and buy music only on Itunes.

He probably got a better deal by dealing with Target exclusively, the albums will continue to sell and a new Prince fan will be born everyday, its time to move on....
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Reply #21 posted 04/13/09 11:05am

Dolphinking23

because hes black LOL.
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/09 11:50am

nurseV

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because hes black LOL.



This shit isn't funny confused
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/09 11:56am

NDRU

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Because they're still mainstream and pushed by record labels, while Prince is an admittedly huge star that many people still don't get.

They can't decide if he's rock, pop, soul, funk, or just plain weirdo, and it makes them uncomfortable to not be able to categorize every artist in their collection.
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Reply #24 posted 04/13/09 12:23pm

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They clearly have bigger followings and always have. Prince despite his Purple Rain hysteria, has never been a HUGE seller, hes been consistent, but not huge.He has a very loyal following, like an REM, and just like REM had their "day" with mainstream love, Prince had his.

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Reply #25 posted 04/13/09 12:52pm

Wowugotit

#2 debut is nothing to sneeze at.
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Reply #26 posted 04/13/09 1:05pm

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lastdecember said:

They clearly have bigger followings and always have. Prince despite his Purple Rain hysteria, has never been a HUGE seller, hes been consistent, but not huge.He has a very loyal following, like an REM, and just like REM had their "day" with mainstream love, Prince had his.


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Reply #27 posted 04/13/09 1:12pm

purplecam

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Wowugotit said:

#2 debut is nothing to sneeze at.

Not at all. His last #1 was 3 years ago so it's not like it's been a million years since his last #1. Prince is doing alright.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #28 posted 04/13/09 1:33pm

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Dan said:

Haven't people realised yet?

Prince doesn't care about the charts, he just wants to get his music out there and is exploring new ways of doing so.

He is well aware of all business opportunities and does exactly what he wants and as he pleases.

...and there is nothing wrong with that.


Dan: You said it better than I could have.
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Reply #29 posted 04/13/09 1:37pm

Whitnail

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Rogue588 said:

Whitnail said:

Who really gives a shit,

Besides Prince and "fams" here? Nobody.


lol so why are you here?
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