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Reply #60 posted 04/11/09 11:20pm

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chocolatehandles said:

Has Prince released the most music?

Yes.nutty







Sorry, I just want to make Prince fans happy.
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Reply #61 posted 04/12/09 3:24am

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TwiliteKid said:

Se7en said:




They are counted as "albums" because Prince compiled them that way and sold them that way through his official website at the time (NPGMusicClub/Musicology Store).

Your point that they're of previously-released material . . . they were, but not in album form. To your point, any NPGMC songs that did NOT appear on either album are just random catalog songs - like SST, Song Of The Heart, and F.U.N.K.

TCI and Slaughterhouse would appear on a Prince discography, for sure.

As for ONA:Live . . . it would appear in his discography, but I would not classify it as an album.



Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but I still disagree with you. They should appear on his discography, but not under albums. They should be grouped with The Hits/The B-Sides, The Very Best of Prince, Ultimate Prince, and, now that I think of it, Crystal Ball and The Vault. None of these can truly be called albums because they weren't conceived as coherent pieces of work the same way that the other's on this list were. For example: Purple Rain is collection representing artistic intent, and specific moment in time. I don't think you can that of the discs I've mentioned above.

In the specific case of The Chocolate Invasion, and Slaughterhouse, the fact that some of the tracks were previously credited to the NPG, not Prince, is evidence of the slapdash nature of these collections. Furthermore, "2045: Radical Man" had been out for [em]four[/em] years prior to its placement on The Slaughtehouse. If that doesn't speak to these albums purpose of compiling the otherwise homelss material of the late 90s/early 2000s, I don't know what does. I know they weren't explictly described this way, but they're a compiliation of singles, nothing more.

Look at it this way: If Prince were to suddenly start offering a collection called F.U.N.K and consisting of the tracks you mentioned above, as well as some of the other similarly homeless material from the NPGMC like "Glass Cutter", "Silver Tongue", etc, would you call it an album, 5 years later?

I think that Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse should count because they consist of material that never appeared on an album before. It doesn't matter how old the music is. The question is "Has Prince released the most music?" not "Has Prince released the most albums?" I would also say that if Neil Young ever releases his Archives collection that should count as new material (depending on the contents). Crystal Ball should count while something like the Very Best of Prince should not.
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Reply #62 posted 04/12/09 3:39am

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Reply #63 posted 04/12/09 7:11am

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The answer is no, Zappa has 50 plus official releases, and many others have more.

The shame is in reading this thread, we go from a mathmatical definitive answer which can be qualified by not including greatest hits, live, or comps to a "well they suck and their music is boring" so it doesn't count.
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Reply #64 posted 04/12/09 7:15am

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Buckethead will be another artist who is also extremely prolific..

Since 92 about 30 releases..

From wikipedia.....

Studio albums
Year Album details
1992 Bucketheadland
Released: 1992 (1992)
Label: Avant (Avan 007)
Format: 2CD

1994 Giant Robot
Released: 1994 (1994)
Label: Sony Japan (SRCS 7494)
Format: CD

1996 Day of the Robot
Released: April 30, 1996
Label: Subharmonic (SM-9804-2)
Format: CD

1998 Colma
Released: March 24, 1998
Label: CyberOctave (COCD 45380)
Format: CD

1999 Monsters and Robots
Released: April 20, 1999
Label: Higher Octave (COCD 47499)
Format: CD

2001 Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse
Released: June 5, 2001
Label: Stray (SR0016)
Format: CD, 2LP

2002 Funnel Weaver
Released: February 15, 2002
Label: Ion (IN 2016-2)
Format: CD

Bermuda Triangle
Released: July 23, 2002
Label: Catalyst (CECD1000)
Format: CD

Electric Tears
Released: October 8, 2002
Label: Meta (MT-0015)
Format: CD

2003 Bucketheadland 2
Released: October 14, 2003
Label: Ion (IN 2019-2)
Format: CD

2004 Island of Lost Minds
Released: March 19, 2004
Label: Bucketheadland
Format: CD

Population Override
Released: March 30, 2004
Label: Ion (IN 2020-2)
Format: CD

The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell
Released: April 20, 2004
Label: Disembodied (BRO370)
Format: CD

2005 Enter the Chicken
Released: October 25, 2005
Label: Serjical Strike
Format: CD

Kaleidoscalp
Released: November 22, 2005
Label: Tzadik (TZ 7409)
Format: CD

Inbred Mountain
Released: December 2, 2005
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

2006 The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock
Released: February 17, 2006
Label: Bucketheadland
Format: CD

Crime Slunk Scene
Released: September 15, 2006
Label: Bucketheadland
Format: CD

2007 Pepper's Ghost
Released: March 1, 2007
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

Acoustic Shards
Released: May 31, 2007
Label: Avabella (CD-320)
Format: CD

Decoding the Tomb of Bansheebot
Released: October 30, 2007
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

Cyborg Slunks
Released: October 30, 2007
Label: TDRS
Format: CD-R/CD

2008 From the Coop
Released: March 9, 2008
Label: Avabella (CD-321)
Format: CD

The Dragons of Eden
Released: September 17, 2008
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

Albino Slug
Released: September 17, 2008
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

2009 Slaughterhouse on the Prairie
Released: January 30, 2009
Label: TDRS
Format: CD

Year Album details
2007 In Search of The
Released: February 21, 2007
Label: TDRS
Format: 13CD-R
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Reply #65 posted 04/12/09 8:13am

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aalloca said:

The answer is no, Zappa has 50 plus official releases, and many others have more.

The shame is in reading this thread, we go from a mathmatical definitive answer which can be qualified by not including greatest hits, live, or comps to a "well they suck and their music is boring" so it doesn't count.


yeah, i got put in my place when i suggested the residents, and if anything, their music is hardly boring.
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Reply #66 posted 04/12/09 8:21am

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Anxiety said:

aalloca said:

The answer is no, Zappa has 50 plus official releases, and many others have more.

The shame is in reading this thread, we go from a mathmatical definitive answer which can be qualified by not including greatest hits, live, or comps to a "well they suck and their music is boring" so it doesn't count.


yeah, i got put in my place when i suggested the residents, and if anything, their music is hardly boring.


If you were introducing someone to their music, which one thing by them would u recommend? After reading about them they sound kinda interesting?
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Reply #67 posted 04/12/09 8:34am

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Anxiety said:



yeah, i got put in my place when i suggested the residents, and if anything, their music is hardly boring.


If you were introducing someone to their music, which one thing by them would u recommend? After reading about them they sound kinda interesting?


Wow, they've had so many sounds and styles over the years, so I think there's a little something that would click with anyone who has even the most cautious open mind for music.

I prefer their older stuff - anything between 1970 - 1980. It's all very whimsical and inventive, and they didn't have the technology to fall back on that they have now, so they had to use toy instruments and found objects for musical instruments a lot of the time. I'd recommend "Meet the Residents", "Fingerprince", "Not Available", "Duck Stab/Buster & Glen" (my favorite) or "The Commercial Album". They put out an album just a few years ago called "Demons Dance Alone" that sounds a lot like their old music. I like that one a lot, too.
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Reply #68 posted 04/13/09 10:14am

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Lezama if you were asking me,

I suggest Lather by Zappa, good mix of everything he does on 3 discs. For Buckethead I suggest Electric Tears for moody guitar, and population override for Funkadelic type guitar hero grooves.
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Reply #69 posted 04/13/09 10:22am

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aalloca said:

Lezama if you were asking me,

I suggest Lather by Zappa, good mix of everything he does on 3 discs. For Buckethead I suggest Electric Tears for moody guitar, and population override for Funkadelic type guitar hero grooves.

Which Buckhead is the most funky like?
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Reply #70 posted 04/13/09 1:28pm

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Frank Zappa
Neil Young
Bob Dylan

Have all released more music than Prince has.

Although Dylan and Young may have released more albums, not too sure on the numbers, there is also the aspect of the amount of songs that Prince has released on his album e.g.: Crystal Ball, Emancipation. I always think it a shame that Prince hasn't put out some stellar live recordings (IMO I think O2 was a good chance to put out a classic live album)
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Reply #71 posted 04/13/09 1:35pm

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Not sure if he's been mentioned, but Miles Davis surely has more albums than Prince.
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Reply #72 posted 04/13/09 1:40pm

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RealMusician said:



But I'm still estimating that making a record in the style of someone like Dylan or Neil Young generally would take less time than making an album in the style of Prince or Frank Zappa.

I admit, I don't know exactly how long it takes for Neil Young to write a song (my guess is it differs) - but as I said, this is not only counting the songwriting but all steps in the process.

Our singer/songwriter heroes, on the other hand, tend to have more of a "live in the studio"-approach (yes, there are exceptions, I know!) with less overdubs and such.


definitely you can't discount the songwriting process in terms of time. Also, even if a recording is simple, that doesn't mean there's not tons of refining done to the arrangement of a simple rock song that allows it to be so powerful despite its simplicity.
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Reply #73 posted 04/13/09 1:42pm

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Smillan said:

TwiliteKid said:

Frank Zappa
Neil Young
Bob Dylan

Have all released more music than Prince has.

Although Dylan and Young may have released more albums, not too sure on the numbers, there is also the aspect of the amount of songs that Prince has released on his album e.g.: Crystal Ball, Emancipation. I always think it a shame that Prince hasn't put out some stellar live recordings (IMO I think O2 was a good chance to put out a classic live album)


Prince's live catalog is shameful!
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Reply #74 posted 04/13/09 9:21pm

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Anxiety said:

lezama said:



If you were introducing someone to their music, which one thing by them would u recommend? After reading about them they sound kinda interesting?


Wow, they've had so many sounds and styles over the years, so I think there's a little something that would click with anyone who has even the most cautious open mind for music.

I prefer their older stuff - anything between 1970 - 1980. It's all very whimsical and inventive, and they didn't have the technology to fall back on that they have now, so they had to use toy instruments and found objects for musical instruments a lot of the time. I'd recommend "Meet the Residents", "Fingerprince", "Not Available", "Duck Stab/Buster & Glen" (my favorite) or "The Commercial Album". They put out an album just a few years ago called "Demons Dance Alone" that sounds a lot like their old music. I like that one a lot, too.


Cool. Thx!
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Reply #75 posted 04/13/09 10:46pm

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IanRG said:

Slim Dusty - Australian Country artist - 103 albums


cool

Slim wins!

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Reply #76 posted 04/13/09 11:57pm

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Reply #77 posted 04/14/09 3:16am

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RealMusician said:



But I'm still estimating that making a record in the style of someone like Dylan or Neil Young generally would take less time than making an album in the style of Prince or Frank Zappa.

I admit, I don't know exactly how long it takes for Neil Young to write a song (my guess is it differs) - but as I said, this is not only counting the songwriting but all steps in the process.

Our singer/songwriter heroes, on the other hand, tend to have more of a "live in the studio"-approach (yes, there are exceptions, I know!) with less overdubs and such.


definitely you can't discount the songwriting process in terms of time. Also, even if a recording is simple, that doesn't mean there's not tons of refining done to the arrangement of a simple rock song that allows it to be so powerful despite its simplicity.


Certainly, all of these things are difficult to measure.

Take jazz pianist Keith Jarrett, for instance. Since the late 60's, he's released an average of probably 2-3 albums a year. However, many of these are solo piano improvisations or trio performances of standard repertoire (and live recordings, as well) - which means that an album of 60 minutes might basically take him 60 minutes to make. No songwriting, no arranging, rehearsing, producing, etc - just playing.

Now, is this less of an artistic achievement? Of course not. Is it, by any means, an easy thing to do? I wouldn't think so. The reason Jarrett (and his bandmates) are able to do this, is of course that they've spent thousands of hours practicing and working on their craft, throughout their lives.

With such people, it's usually the strength and uniqueness of their "voice", their artistic expression, that impresses me. Not the quantity of their output. The Keith Jarrett trio could just as well have made one single album, or five hundred - the artistic statement remains the same.

For a large output to be impressive in itself, it has to contain many different ideas, different kinds of expression. Frank Zappa, I think, is a good example of that. Also John Zorn, as someone mentioned. Prince, to a somewhat lesser degree. Bob Dylan, even lesser.

I consider that a bigger effort, as far as the actual record-making goes - the time and energy they've put in specifically for the product. Not the hours they've spent perfecting their skills in general. (Although they are of course connected)

Just because someone says the same thing over and over again - and says it very well - doesn't increase its importance.
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Reply #78 posted 04/14/09 3:26am

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chocolatehandles said:

Anxiety said:

i'd say the residents have released at least twice as much music as prince has.

they've been putting out roughly an album a year since 1970, PLUS collections and live albums and whatnot.

and nobody knows who they are. lol


But that's a band + personally I don't think they're any good.


Ok, so no bands then?
we should leave out the revolution an NPG stuff when counting the Prince albums.
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Reply #79 posted 04/14/09 6:04am

Graycap23

Prince has released the most music of all of the artist that I would LISTEN 2.
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