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Why Lotusflow3r going No1 IS important (to me anyway) Is it important or does it matter even if the new 3 cd set hits number one?
The answer to me is yes why i will tell you Back in the day when i was a little teenager during the 80's i used to love listening to the chart coming out and seeing how Prince did I can still remember all his chart postitions for singles in the US and i live in god damn England i remember being mad raspberry beret only hit no2 annoyed as hell at Mountains poor chart position and annoyed as hell that SOTT stalled at No3 Cream hit number 1 hell i smiled all day even as a god damn symbol TMBGITW hit number 3 and wow number ONE (his only one ) in the UK Then the chart postitions started to flounder young fans started to not even know who the hell Prince was at first i didnt care so what i could still buy the albums Then i forget the year 2001 I think he came and did some dates in the UK a small venue cant remember where it was now either Brixton Academy or the like and basically no one cared!!!!! The press and public were forgetting he existed I am not talking about the quality of his releases just how it was perception wise Now from my point of view i consider Prince to be a genius and without being a total fam an important part of my past and present so for him to be forgotten irrelevant UNNOTICED was a major bummer Then something happened Musicology and the fanatastic tour (and giveaway obviously) sent the album up the charts to No3 people noticed him again Then damn, 3121 hits number 1, charts equal publicity recognition and party time again. I want this to continue i want Prince to be relevant i want prince to be respected and rememebered chart success unfortunately or fortunately helps that i want everyone to recognise the genius that is Prince and the best way for that to happen is Number 1 success and all the hoopla that goes along with that I could have been more eloquent but hell all i know is the last 5 years as a Prince fan have been far more fun than the 8 years that preceded it Does it matter to you? [Edited 4/6/09 11:06am] What you don't remember never happened | |
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I really don't think 3121 debuting at #1 mattered in the grand scheme of things. Sure, Prince got some extra attention for a week, but it's not like radio rediscovered him or anything.
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LiveToTell86 said: I really don't think 3121 debuting at #1 mattered in the grand scheme of things. Sure, Prince got some extra attention for a week, but it's not like radio rediscovered him or anything.
It really won't make much difference if LF is #1 or #2 this week. If Prince keeps having number 1 albums maybe even the money men running radio may think hold on people are buying Prince records maybe we should play the occasional one which may give us more listeners and then more add revenue etc. you never know What you don't remember never happened | |
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It'll be nice if he has a number one but it certainly won't help him get noticed over here. I can't believe he hasn't sorted something out for this set in the uK, to build on what he started with the O2 and Planet Earth. There weren't many who didn't know Prince was doing soimething big here in the summer of '07 but how many of those know that he has some new stuff out? RIP | |
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Prince's legacy has already been cemented. Everything now is just icing on the cake. If he gets radio hits, chart topping albums, sell out tours...it's all gravy, but doesn't really add to what he is/how he is perceived by the mass public and history.
Prince has always been more about artistry, than numbers. Unless he starts molesting kids, he is in a spot where his legend will only grow with time regardless of charts, radio, and hits. [Edited 4/6/09 12:42pm] "New Power slide...." | |
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currently at # 1 with 54% reporting
LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 PRINCE NPG 149,533 LOTUS FLOW3R -- 2 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 116,829 DEFYING GRAVITY 1 3 NOW 30 UME 70,046 VARIOUS ARTISTS 2 4 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY RECORDS 59,605 SOUNDTRACK -- 5 UGK JIVE/JLG 46,733 UGK 4 LIFE -- 6 DIANA KRALL VERVE 40,451 QUIET NIGHTS 3 7 TWILIGHT ATLANTIC 34,318 SOUNDTRACK 8 8 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 33,128 FAME -- 9 FLO RIDA ATLANTIC 30,468 R.O.O.T.S. 11 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 30,224 FEARLESS -- 11 RODNEY ATKINS CURB 25,077 IT'S AMERICA 4 12 KERI HILSON INTERSCOPE 21,806 IN A PERFECT WORLD 17 13 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 21,275 DARK HORSE 7 14 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 19,883 ALL I EVER WANTED -- 15 BOW WOW COLUMBIA 16,779 NEW JACK CITY II 13 16 THE-DREAM DEF JAM/IDJMG 16,553 LOVE VS. MONEY -- 17 DAVID COOK 19/RCA/RMG 15,794 DAVID COOK 24 18 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 14,633 INTUITION -- 19 DONNIE MCCLURKIN VERITY/JLG 13,875 WE ARE ALL ONE (LIVE IN DETROIT) 6 20 U2 INTERSCOPE 13,726 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 26 21 T.I. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 12,968 PAPER TRAIL 32 22 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA NASHVILLE 12,645 CARNIVAL RIDE 33 23 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 12,605 FOUNDATION 16 24 JOHN RICH WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 12,165 SON OF A PREACHER MAN 23 25 BEYONCE COLUMBIA 11,508 I AM... SASHA FIERCE 35 26 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 11,223 LEARN TO LIVE 39 27 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 10,831 TAYLOR SWIFT -- 28 CHRIS BOTTI COLUMBIA 10,311 CHRIS BOTTI IN BOSTON 10 29 MARTINA MCBRIDE RCA NASHVILLE 10,056 SHINE 28 30 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 9,188 WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS 22 31 ADELE COLUMBIA 8,399 19 37 32 P!NK LAFACE/JLG 8,365 FUNHOUSE 40 33 KEYSHIA COLE GEFFEN 8,348 A DIFFERENT ME -- 34 JAMEY JOHNSON MERCURY NASHVILLE 8,268 THAT LONESOME SONG 29 35 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 7,815 ONLY BY THE NIGHT 41 36 THEORY OF A DEADMAN ROADRUNNER 7,682 SCARS & SOUVENIRS 38 37 BRITNEY SPEARS JIVE/JLG 7,624 CIRCUS 18 38 SLIM THUG E1 MUSIC 7,548 BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 31 39 NOW POWER BALLADS UME 7,245 VARIOUS ARTISTS 36 40 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG 6,948 808S & HEARTBREAK 44 41 NE-YO DEF JAM/IDJMG 6,854 YEAR OF THE GENTLEMAN -- 42 QUEENSRYCHE RHINO 6,714 AMERICAN SOLDIER 47 43 AKON SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 6,251 FREEDOM 27 44 THE FRAY EPIC 6,139 THE FRAY 9 45 PAPA ROACH GEFFEN 6,106 METAMORPHOSIS 43 46 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 5,927 LOVE ON THE INSIDE -- 47 GAVIN DEGRAW J RECORDS/RMG 5,663 FREE 48 48 KATY PERRY CAPITOL 5,530 ONE OF THE BOYS 5 49 PEARL JAM LEGACY 5,454 TEN (LEGACY EDITION) -- 50 INDIA.ARIE UNIVERSAL REPU | |
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skywalker said: Prince's legacy has already been cemented. Everything now is just icing on the cake. If he gets radio hits, chart topping albums, sell out tours...it's all gravy, but doesn't really add to what he is/how he is perceived by the mass public and history.
Prince has always been more about artistry, than numbers. Unless he starts molesting kids, he is in a spot where his legend will only grow with time regardless of charts, radio, and hits. [Edited 4/6/09 12:42pm] Dispite what his personal life was like as it played out in the media; he has to be respected for remaining true to himself and the course he has set for himself musically. Prince's Sarah | |
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It's not important to me Prince forgot there are no Target stores in Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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luv4u said: It's not important to me Prince forgot there are no Target stores in
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skywalker said: Prince's legacy has already been cemented. Everything now is just icing on the cake. If he gets radio hits, chart topping albums, sell out tours...it's all gravy, but doesn't really add to what he is/how he is perceived by the mass public and history.
Prince has always been more about artistry, than numbers. Unless he starts molesting kids, he is in a spot where his legend will only grow with time regardless of charts, radio, and hits. [Edited 4/6/09 12:42pm] Personally i feel between 1995 and 2003 his legacy was pretty dented by the name change fiasco and lack of chart success. People didn't talk about what a great muscian and songwriter/performer he was during this period just what a crank he was I would like the upswing in respect to continue and a number one album would garner further respect from the wider audience What you don't remember never happened | |
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I used to do the same-used and try and get off school and listen to the charts and get really frustrated if Prince songs didn't chart high enough (UK here by the way) and used to real smile if all was going well. I know it's sad but there you go. Today I see that it is not as relevant because Prince has got that-"I can sell out an Arena with no hits coz I've been around forever" kind of thing going on.He is regarded as genius without the requirement of on going proof and to be fair very few artists go on to have chart success forever-Prince has done well in this respect.The industry is ageist. I know people are going to cite Madonna etc but these are exceptions that proove the rule and her focus is to achieve that-she's sell a child to get to number one-if she could get over the habit of adopting them that is. However I do love it when Prince does well because you do get tired of justifying him to others. Charts take away that pressure as those that hate him or defend others as great when they are clearly not usually refer to sales as proof of their tastes and on this level you can't really fight back. Prince is too famous for one to argue musicality-when someone is as well known as Prince chart failure looks to many like failure as a whole | |
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jcurley said: I used to do the same-used and try and get off school and listen to the charts and get really frustrated if Prince songs didn't chart high enough (UK here by the way) and used to real smile if all was going well. I know it's sad but there you go. Today I see that it is not as relevant because Prince has got that-"I can sell out an Arena with no hits coz I've been around forever" kind of thing going on.He is regarded as genius without the requirement of on going proof and to be fair very few artists go on to have chart success forever-Prince has done well in this respect.The industry is ageist. I know people are going to cite Madonna etc but these are exceptions that proove the rule and her focus is to achieve that-she's sell a child to get to number one-if she could get over the habit of adopting them that is. However I do love it when Prince does well because you do get tired of justifying him to others. Charts take away that pressure as those that hate him or defend others as great when they are clearly not usually refer to sales as proof of their tastes and on this level you can't really fight back. Prince is too famous for one to argue musicality-when someone is as well known as Prince chart failure looks to many like failure as a whole
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Album position doesn't mean much in the UK. Now if he had a no1 single....
That would really shake things up. Radio 1 would have to play it | |
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Personally i feel between 1995 and 2003 his legacy was pretty dented by the name change fiasco and lack of chart success. People didn't talk about what a great muscian and songwriter/performer he was during this
period just what a crank he was I understand what you are saying here. However, isn't it sad the public "perception" is bought and sold to us? I mean 1995-2003 is when Prince wasn't really "playing the game" so he got little love from the mass media. Since 2004, he has been more media friendly and so he gets more positive coverage. I would like the upswing in respect to continue and a number one album would garner further respect from the wider audience
Ultimately I ask you this: Why do you need everyone else to like Prince? I get that it's cool when everyone else respects/digs your fav musician, but why the need to defend him to others? Why not just tell everyone to fuck off and do what you are going to do? Prince will continue to make music and be genius either way... "New Power slide...." | |
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Spank86 said: Album position doesn't mean much in the UK. Now if he had a no1 single....
That would really shake things up. Radio 1 would have to play it Those basterds should play it away we pay their damn wages... I'm asking for a few tracks ...we all (UK) should ...Prince is an Indie now no reason for them not to play him... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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luv4u said: It's not important to me Prince forgot there are no Target stores in
YES, ain't that a bitch? [Edited 4/7/09 8:03am] 12/05/2011
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! | |
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LondonStyle said: Spank86 said: Album position doesn't mean much in the UK. Now if he had a no1 single....
That would really shake things up. Radio 1 would have to play it Those basterds should play it away we pay their damn wages... I'm asking for a few tracks ...we all (UK) should ...Prince is an Indie now no reason for them not to play him... sounds like we need to get organised and barrage radio one with requests for prince songs. | |
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Spank86 said: LondonStyle said: Those basterds should play it away we pay their damn wages... I'm asking for a few tracks ...we all (UK) should ...Prince is an Indie now no reason for them not to play him... sounds like we need to get organised and barrage radio one with requests for prince songs. Yep....15.4% of the org is from the UK so we should be 25 request strong anytime in the day....let's pick a date to start emails flood.. Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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I don't care. It's no.1 to me that's all that counts. | |
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The way that they add this chart up, I do not think he will get number 1. I think they add the totals by retailer. Since Prince is only at one retailer, Keith Urban has a definite possibility of overcoming Prince. | |
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skywalker said: Personally i feel between 1995 and 2003 his legacy was pretty dented by the name change fiasco and lack of chart success. People didn't talk about what a great muscian and songwriter/performer he was during this
period just what a crank he was I understand what you are saying here. However, isn't it sad the public "perception" is bought and sold to us? I mean 1995-2003 is when Prince wasn't really "playing the game" so he got little love from the mass media. Since 2004, he has been more media friendly and so he gets more positive coverage. I would like the upswing in respect to continue and a number one album would garner further respect from the wider audience
Ultimately I ask you this: Why do you need everyone else to like Prince? I get that it's cool when everyone else respects/digs your fav musician, but why the need to defend him to others? Why not just tell everyone to fuck off and do what you are going to do? Prince will continue to make music and be genius either way... You ask i reply I have been a Prince fan for 27years and never missed a tour to the UK Since and including Parade '86 I have happily bought any prince music i could get my hands on and enjoyed my personal favs on each. Hell i remember my peers giving me stick back in '85 when ATWIAD was released "hey whats all that indian music shit on Prince's new album" was a common comment so what "others" say doesn't effect my own enjoyment or influence me one iota however i would like Prince to have more universal recognition of his talent and unique genius and i feel this happens with a number 1 record and the subsquent attention that this generates here ends the sermon and i looks like another number 1 could happen What you don't remember never happened | |
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You ask i reply I have been a Prince fan for 27years and never missed a tour to the UK Since and including Parade '86 I have happily bought any prince music i could get my hands on and enjoyed my personal favs on each.
Hell i remember my peers giving me stick back in '85 when ATWIAD was released "hey whats all that indian music shit on Prince's new album" was a common comment so what "others" say doesn't effect my own enjoyment or influence me one iota however i would like Prince to have more universal recognition of his talent and unique genius and i feel this happens with a number 1 record and the subsquent attention that this generates I think you've lived the same life as me-ha ha. Always had to defend Prince-but secretly can't win because I always liked to do so in a kind of self righteous way. Anyway you must be pleased today as Prince looks like he has his number 1.I struggle like you with the need for Prince to be successful and always want him to be rich. I think it's just a sense of injustice that he may not be getting his dues (Which I think he is now) when you see the wealth some "Stars" have. However we must remember that though Prince's marketing model seems quite successful, without the old radio and singles structure albums will not have any longevitity so sales turn into the Morrissey thing-one mad rush then bang gone. At least I suppose this way we see the size of Prince's core audience. And if we are honest if it wasn't for Purple Rain his later albums in the 80's would not have sold as well-imagine Lovesexy in its uniqueness selling anyway nearly as much without the fame he had already generated Anyway I'll shut it now-Prince is number 1 | |
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