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Thread started 04/07/09 6:52am

blackbob

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PRINCE IS A MYSTERY TO ME ???

just dont understand him.....he does 21 sell out concerts in london and gives away 3 million copies of his planet earth album in a sunday newspaper generating mass interest in prince and his music again here in the uk after years of next to nothing then what does he do.....
.....he releases some of his best music since the mid 90s in a 3 cd package and you cant get it here ????.....unless you can get an import copy somewhere for the rip-off price of 30 pounds (about 45 dollars)..... confused i just dont get it.... confused
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/09 7:34am

stanleylieber

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obviously you hate prince














wink
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #2 posted 04/07/09 8:10am

kookooman73

stanleylieber said:

obviously you hate prince



Pathetic juvenile response!
I agree with u Blackbob.Being a Prince fan is frustrating,annoying & embarrassing at times.What with the crappy covers performed live,talentless proteges,no videos 4 singles.wrong choice of singles,name changes,cancelled gigs/tours,cancelled fanclubs etc etc.
IMO this is his best studio album in a decade & it seems as tho it`s going 2 sink without trace outside the US.2 not have a simultaneous international release beggars belief & forces loyal fans 2 pay over the odds thru ebay or 2 download illegally.This must rank as one of the biggest career mistakes he has ever made! So either fans lose money or Prince does?? In the UK Prince was riding a wave of adulation so this is a massive missed opportunity.Maybe part of the Target deal was that it will be released in a few weeks but it will be 2 late then which is a great shame as this album could have been huge & it deserves much more recognition!
Hold On 2 Ur Wigs!










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Reply #3 posted 04/07/09 8:47am

squirrelgrease

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kookooman73 said:

stanleylieber said:

obviously you hate prince



Pathetic juvenile response!
I agree with u Blackbob.Being a Prince fan is frustrating,annoying & embarrassing at times.What with the crappy covers performed live,talentless proteges,no videos 4 singles.wrong choice of singles,name changes,cancelled gigs/tours,cancelled fanclubs etc etc.
IMO this is his best studio album in a decade & it seems as tho it`s going 2 sink without trace outside the US.2 not have a simultaneous international release beggars belief & forces loyal fans 2 pay over the odds thru ebay or 2 download illegally.This must rank as one of the biggest career mistakes he has ever made! So either fans lose money or Prince does?? In the UK Prince was riding a wave of adulation so this is a massive missed opportunity.Maybe part of the Target deal was that it will be released in a few weeks but it will be 2 late then which is a great shame as this album could have been huge & it deserves much more recognition!
Hold On 2 Ur Wigs!










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Did you miss the wink emoticon?
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #4 posted 04/07/09 9:42am

JayJai

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blackbob said:

just dont understand him.....he does 21 sell out concerts in london and gives away 3 million copies of his planet earth album in a sunday newspaper generating mass interest in prince and his music again here in the uk after years of next to nothing then what does he do.....
.....he releases some of his best music since the mid 90s in a 3 cd package and you cant get it here ????.....unless you can get an import copy somewhere for the rip-off price of 30 pounds (about 45 dollars)..... confused i just dont get it.... confused


Don't try to understand him...your head will explode trying.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #5 posted 04/07/09 9:48am

Imago

kookooman73 said:

stanleylieber said:

obviously you hate prince



Pathetic juvenile response!
I agree with u Blackbob.Being a Prince fan is frustrating,annoying & embarrassing at times.What with the crappy covers performed live,talentless proteges,no videos 4 singles.wrong choice of singles,name changes,cancelled gigs/tours,cancelled fanclubs etc etc.
IMO this is his best studio album in a decade & it seems as tho it`s going 2 sink without trace outside the US.2 not have a simultaneous international release beggars belief & forces loyal fans 2 pay over the odds thru ebay or 2 download illegally.This must rank as one of the biggest career mistakes he has ever made! So either fans lose money or Prince does?? In the UK Prince was riding a wave of adulation so this is a massive missed opportunity.Maybe part of the Target deal was that it will be released in a few weeks but it will be 2 late then which is a great shame as this album could have been huge & it deserves much more recognition!
Hold On 2 Ur Wigs!










wink



...and the award for the most pointless rant response to a misinterpreted cheeky joke goes to.....
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Reply #6 posted 04/07/09 9:50am

funkyhead

it's P, what can you say!.Musicology and P.Earth were executed perfectly from a marketing point of view.
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Reply #7 posted 04/07/09 9:58am

mayrain

JayJai said:

blackbob said:

just dont understand him.....he does 21 sell out concerts in london and gives away 3 million copies of his planet earth album in a sunday newspaper generating mass interest in prince and his music again here in the uk after years of next to nothing then what does he do.....
.....he releases some of his best music since the mid 90s in a 3 cd package and you cant get it here ????.....unless you can get an import copy somewhere for the rip-off price of 30 pounds (about 45 dollars)..... confused i just dont get it.... confused


Don't try to understand him...your head will explode trying.



Ha HA HA
Proverbs 23:9
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Reply #8 posted 04/07/09 10:03am

Dayclear

Prince has always been a mystery to people, he likes it that way. biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 04/07/09 10:10am

Riverpoet31

Good point, OP,

It sometimes seems that since he left WB he is making totally irrational choices. Especially when it comes to the marketing of his material.
I mean: he did gain mainstream attention again with the Musicology album and tour, but he did throw most of that away with his bad promotion of 3121 and Planet Earth after that.
Thinkabout it... wrrong single choices (not entirely new), or not releasing official singles and video's at all. Creating a hype for 'something' like Chelsea Rodgers, for what? Bringing out his new 3 CD-set, and only selling it to one retailer in the USA (doesnt he want the money from the European or Asian fans, or something?), etc.

Also on an artistical level it is often hard to follow what he is doing. Altough that is a debatable issue of course (tastes differ, etc.).
But I mean: multi-CD sets like Emancipation, Crystal Ball and (yes, IMO also) this new one, scream for 'quality control'. He tries to do a 'Santana' with Rave and all the guest stars on the album, while you hear his heart and soul are definitely not into it. He follows it up with some of the most obscure albums in his career (The Rainbow Children, NEWS), which seem to be made for himself in the first place.

I know that Prince has always been erratic and a often a 'walking contradiction' during his career (releasing ATWIAD right after Purple Rain, for example, the contrasts between the movies Purple Rain and UTCM), but in the past I felt, those 'weird' choices were at least more 'grounded' (in common sense?), wether on an artistic level or a business level.

I was recently thinking could it INDEED be, that Prince fares better when he has not all the 'freedom' he desires.
Maybe he needs a record company like Warners or a rather down to earth manager like Alan Leeds, to guide him in some aspects of his career.
Maybe he indeed needs musicians like Wendy and Lisa, or Eric Leeds, who dare to say like things: that song is rather generic, don't put it on the album, or, hey, watchout, don't overproduce your material (at least from Leeds i know he was definitely not the kind of musician in the ilk of: yes, Prince, good Prince, youre a genious)

On the other hand: as long as he is fine with the choices he makes as a 'free' musician, and he makes a lot of money with it (he probably cashed in on the Musicology tour, the 21 nights concerts, the newspaper deal and the Target deal), well... it are his choices.

And, there are lots and lost of great musicians to listen to otherwise... wink
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Reply #10 posted 04/07/09 11:03am

Wilco321

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Art for arts sake ...creative joy

How beautiful are U ...how free ... how divine.

How reflective.

A mystery to all.
sweet for my sweet, sugar for my honey.
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Reply #11 posted 04/07/09 11:05am

Riverpoet31

crappy cryptic reactions remain crappy cryptic reactions
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Reply #12 posted 04/07/09 11:33am

Wilco321

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Riverpoet31 said:

crappy cryptic reactions remain crappy cryptic reactions


Not much of a poet - huh !
sweet for my sweet, sugar for my honey.
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Reply #13 posted 04/07/09 3:08pm

stanleylieber

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all i'm saying is, when it comes to matters of commerce i'd rather not communicate in riddles.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #14 posted 04/07/09 3:30pm

nurseV

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Prince has always been a mystery to people, he likes it that way. biggrin



True biggrin
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