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Reply #120 posted 04/05/09 12:52pm

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udo said:

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no way dude the logic has already been laid out. the n word is not acceptable under any circumstances.

That was a very quick piece of research.
Why do you think the USA (probably white) population's ideas about acceptability are favoured elsewhere under all circumstances?
Situations can differ and the use of certain words can be less unacceptable or even more acceptable in these situations.
I did not say that these situations are very common or should be that way.


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Reply #121 posted 04/05/09 1:26pm

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Prince is a whack job!

He needs to understand that he isn't in control all the time. If Target wants the commercial taken down than so be it but shorty signed a contract and if Target wants to play a commercial on youtube there's nothing stopping them. Not even the worlds biggest ego maniac.
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Reply #122 posted 04/05/09 1:49pm

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mschirmer said:

Prince is a whack job!

He needs to understand that he isn't in control all the time. If Target wants the commercial taken down than so be it but shorty signed a contract and if Target wants to play a commercial on youtube there's nothing stopping them. Not even the worlds biggest ego maniac.


no way dude prince doesn't believe in contracts.

are you trying to say his convictions are pliable. neutral
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Reply #123 posted 04/05/09 2:07pm

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What a fucking gooddamn idiot lol THIS is how out of control Prince is. FREE ADVERTISING to sell his product is a threat to his ego. He's fucking sick in the head and I'm thrilled I haven't put one fucking penny in his pocket with this Lotus project.
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Reply #124 posted 04/05/09 2:11pm

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I don't like this but why is this surprising? I saw it coming when people here were posting clips from youtube to this site. What can you do?

You should be appalled that Prince is turning on free ways to advertise the project you're so in love with. Don't you want him to be successful? sad
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Reply #125 posted 04/05/09 2:23pm

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chillichocaholic said:


Don't forget the dirty sneakers and the hat



Naw, today i will merely be watching my neighbours naked...in my slippers

Who's going to be naked...them or u and do we get pics?
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Reply #126 posted 04/05/09 2:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:

I don't like this but why is this surprising? I saw it coming when people here were posting clips from youtube to this site. What can you do?

You should be appalled that Prince is turning on free ways to advertise the project you're so in love with. Don't you want him to be successful? sad


I dunno about anyone else but I don;t really care how successful he uis as long as he keeps making music.

I mean yeah I'd like some of my mates to enjoy prince too but other than that I'd be happy to be among a minority of prince fans as long as he keeps recording anyway.
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Reply #127 posted 04/05/09 2:31pm

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Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.

But I haven't seen a good source varifying the topic of this thread. And it doesn't always necessarily have to be Prince personally who demands these things. Couldn't it have been Target who didn't want it to be there?
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Reply #128 posted 04/05/09 2:39pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.

But I haven't seen a good source varifying the topic of this thread. And it doesn't always necessarily have to be Prince personally who demands these things. Couldn't it have been Target who didn't want it to be there?


the youtube note says it was removed by request of npg.

the better question, to me, is, does prince even have the right to demand the commercial be removed? yes, it's his likeness and image, but the commercial most likely belongs to target.
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Reply #129 posted 04/05/09 2:46pm

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chillichocaholic said:

Whitnail said:




Naw, today i will merely be watching my neighbours naked...in my slippers

Who's going to be naked...them or u and do we get pics?



we have this trampoline routine on Sundays wink
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Reply #130 posted 04/05/09 2:48pm

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Spank86 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


You should be appalled that Prince is turning on free ways to advertise the project you're so in love with. Don't you want him to be successful? sad


I dunno about anyone else but I don;t really care how successful he uis as long as he keeps making music.

I mean yeah I'd like some of my mates to enjoy prince too but other than that I'd be happy to be among a minority of prince fans as long as he keeps recording anyway.

The asskissing and the way our society has been fucking brainwashed to accept any type of behavior from thei savior just sickens me lol
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Reply #131 posted 04/05/09 2:49pm

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stanleylieber said:

VenusBlingBling said:

Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.

But I haven't seen a good source varifying the topic of this thread. And it doesn't always necessarily have to be Prince personally who demands these things. Couldn't it have been Target who didn't want it to be there?


the youtube note says it was removed by request of npg.

the better question, to me, is, does prince even have the right to demand the commercial be removed? yes, it's his likeness and image, but the commercial most likely belongs to target.


Okay. Still, the guy has people who work for and with him..
I dunno if he's got the right or not, bit imo it's very possible when he's the one the commercial is about.
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Reply #132 posted 04/05/09 2:52pm

Spank86

stanleylieber said:

VenusBlingBling said:

Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.

But I haven't seen a good source varifying the topic of this thread. And it doesn't always necessarily have to be Prince personally who demands these things. Couldn't it have been Target who didn't want it to be there?


the youtube note says it was removed by request of npg.

the better question, to me, is, does prince even have the right to demand the commercial be removed? yes, it's his likeness and image, but the commercial most likely belongs to target.


He probably does, although I would imagine they could overrule him if they were of a mind to.
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Reply #133 posted 04/05/09 3:10pm

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Spank86 said:

stanleylieber said:



the youtube note says it was removed by request of npg.

the better question, to me, is, does prince even have the right to demand the commercial be removed? yes, it's his likeness and image, but the commercial most likely belongs to target.


He probably does, although I would imagine they could overrule him if they were of a mind to.



who really cares, the commercial is crap anyway, totally out of sync, probably the reason he wanted it pulled lol
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Reply #134 posted 04/05/09 3:12pm

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Whitnail said:

Spank86 said:



He probably does, although I would imagine they could overrule him if they were of a mind to.



who really cares, the commercial is crap anyway, totally out of sync, probably the reason he wanted it pulled lol

How SAD if he wanted a commercial pulled because it sucked and that suck ass commercial is still playing on TV lol
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Reply #135 posted 04/05/09 3:14pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Whitnail said:




who really cares, the commercial is crap anyway, totally out of sync, probably the reason he wanted it pulled lol

How SAD if he wanted a commercial pulled because it sucked and that suck ass commercial is still playing on TV lol


hey those are just assumptions

oh wait.
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Reply #136 posted 04/05/09 3:17pm

CocoRock

You know, everytime Prince pulls some crazy shit, I think to myself "Oh he's REALLY lost his mind this time!" But then, of course, he pulls MORE crazy shit. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. He's a fool for this one. disbelief
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Reply #137 posted 04/05/09 3:17pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Whitnail said:




who really cares, the commercial is crap anyway, totally out of sync, probably the reason he wanted it pulled lol

How SAD if he wanted a commercial pulled because it sucked and that suck ass commercial is still playing on TV lol



Thats Prince or not? he was never one for reading the small writing but a total SLAVE (insert bitch, cunt at free will) when he didnt get his way

But we still love him...maybe that is SAD lol
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Reply #138 posted 04/05/09 3:18pm

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Whitnail said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


How SAD if he wanted a commercial pulled because it sucked and that suck ass commercial is still playing on TV lol



Thats Prince or not? he was never one for reading the small writing but a total SLAVE (insert bitch, cunt at free will) when he didnt get his way

But we still love him...maybe that is SAD lol

I can't stand his stupid ass these days so remove me from that club! wink
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Reply #139 posted 04/05/09 3:21pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Whitnail said:




Thats Prince or not? he was never one for reading the small writing but a total SLAVE (insert bitch, cunt at free will) when he didnt get his way

But we still love him...maybe that is SAD lol

I can't stand his stupid ass these days so remove me from that club! wink



Easier said than done wink
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Reply #140 posted 04/05/09 3:26pm

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The "N" word is not acceptable. If making it alright depends on location/upbringing/use/context...then it wreaks of "ignorance." Anyway, it was tasteless.


there are quite a few prince songs containing that word, used by prince, in a non-ironic way.


Well, he no longer uses it, and even if he did, still doesn't put a stamp on it.
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Reply #141 posted 04/05/09 3:30pm

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Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.


Exactly. It would be hypocritical of him if he allowed the commercial to play on youtube, while at the same time, has made it clear that he doesn't want his songs/vids on there.
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Reply #142 posted 04/05/09 3:32pm

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2elijah said:

VenusBlingBling said:

Why are people suprised? Why wouldn't he want the commercial to be removed when he doesn't want the other stuff to be there? Even music videos are advertisements. So it would only be odd if he let them have the commercial. It's obviously all about control and principles for P.


Exactly. It would be hypocritical of him if he allowed the commercial to play on youtube, while at the same time, has made it clear that he doesn't want his songs/vids on there.

No, it makes him stupid with no principles or values.
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Reply #143 posted 04/05/09 3:50pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

2elijah said:



Exactly. It would be hypocritical of him if he allowed the commercial to play on youtube, while at the same time, has made it clear that he doesn't want his songs/vids on there.

No, it makes him stupid with no principles or values.


lol It's just two different ways of thinking, yours and his. Some think Pirate Bay is fantastic, some think it's horrible. Both sides have their points.
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Reply #144 posted 04/05/09 4:03pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


No, it makes him stupid with no principles or values.


lol It's just two different ways of thinking, yours and his. Some think Pirate Bay is fantastic, some think it's horrible. Both sides have their points.


but prince doesn't make points. he says a bunch of vague stuff and lets you decide to agree or disagree with him because you think he's saying something you agree or disagree with. it's great for pop lyrics but maybe not so great for legal matters. smile
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Reply #145 posted 04/05/09 7:52pm

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Spank86 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


You should be appalled that Prince is turning on free ways to advertise the project you're so in love with. Don't you want him to be successful? sad


I dunno about anyone else but I don;t really care how successful he uis as long as he keeps making music.

I mean yeah I'd like some of my mates to enjoy prince too but other than that I'd be happy to be among a minority of prince fans as long as he keeps recording anyway.

I have to say Im with u. I don't care how well he charts or dosent chart and I wonder if people realise that some artists pay good money to gain a certain place on the charts, they dont just get there because people buy the music...food for thought I think.
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Reply #146 posted 04/05/09 10:03pm

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Wow... a five page bitch fest over a 30 second commercial clip.

Since Prince obviously has issues with You Tube... why would any one be shocked that he doesn't want hie likeness on there period... even if it indirectly benefits him. Where I come from... if you talk down on something... only to turn around and use it 'only' if its benefits you... you're called a hypocrite. I'm pretty sure that these same people bitching about him wanting the commercial removed from You Tube would do exactly that... call him a friggin' hypocrite if he did allow it to stay up and they knew about it.

But most important about copyrights and the like... you have to exercise them all of the time or run the risk of losing the power behind those rights. If he allowed you tube to play some things which were illegally uploaded (i.e. vids they didn't own the rights or have permission to upload to in the first place)... people would have a case in other instances of uploaded material.

Another factor to consider is that Target more likely than not has exclusive rights to promote and sale Lotusflow3r. Prince is likely contracted to uphold those rights. Allowing the commercial to play on You tube could very easily compromise those rights. Every organization does not view You Tube as free advertising. Many view You Tube as opportunistic as they get money from their hits. I'm pretty sure neither target nor Prince is in the market of making money for You Tube.
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Reply #147 posted 04/05/09 11:02pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

Wow... a five page bitch fest over a 30 second commercial clip.

Since Prince obviously has issues with You Tube... why would any one be shocked that he doesn't want hie likeness on there period... even if it indirectly benefits him. Where I come from... if you talk down on something... only to turn around and use it 'only' if its benefits you... you're called a hypocrite. I'm pretty sure that these same people bitching about him wanting the commercial removed from You Tube would do exactly that... call him a friggin' hypocrite if he did allow it to stay up and they knew about it.

But most important about copyrights and the like... you have to exercise them all of the time or run the risk of losing the power behind those rights. If he allowed you tube to play some things which were illegally uploaded (i.e. vids they didn't own the rights or have permission to upload to in the first place)... people would have a case in other instances of uploaded material.

Another factor to consider is that Target more likely than not has exclusive rights to promote and sale Lotusflow3r. Prince is likely contracted to uphold those rights. Allowing the commercial to play on You tube could very easily compromise those rights. Every organization does not view You Tube as free advertising. Many view You Tube as opportunistic as they get money from their hits. I'm pretty sure neither target nor Prince is in the market of making money for You Tube.




bow valid points lmao @ five page bitch fest!! I mean really though people,look who started this thread someone who is always bitching about everything Prince does. Either Prince or the author of this thread should be laughing if they read this.
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Reply #148 posted 04/05/09 11:19pm

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At this stage of his lunacy even if a radio station would play a single he'd call up and threaten to sue.
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Reply #149 posted 04/05/09 11:22pm

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lazycrockett said:

At this stage of his lunacy even if a radio station would play a single he'd call up and threaten to sue.


well it is his material after all. just because he sent out the promo cds to disc jockeys, that was NOT an invitation for them to play them on the air.

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