sassybritches said:

Just cause u can make money from it?
I don't think of his move as a lack of intelligence, but as a lack of greed and someone that holds to their own standards.
Some ppl will dash way their standards just to make some $$$
Like I stated earlier: PRINCE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE GENERATION OF $$$ OR LACK THEREOF WHERE YOUTUBE IS CONCERNED. WHILE OTHER MAY SEE IT AS STUPID THIS AIN'T ABOUT THE $$$.
He make millions without youtube and will continue even when youtube vanishes from the internet.

realm said:

Whatever dude.
[Edited 4/4/09 16:51pm]

JayJai said:

really? ok. but when that same man talks so frequently about how much "cheddar" he can make, and when he charges people for a lifetime membership to a fan club only to close it a short while later and charge again for the new one, i think p cares a hell of a lot about money. ain't nothing wrong with that either, lol. prince doesn't put his money on itunes because he doesn't like the payoff they offer. ain't nothing wrong with that, either, since he should be able to decide how much he's paid for his work product. i just think it's odd that he wouldn't utilize youtube as a means to make more money or at least gain some free advertisements that would, in turn, make some more money.

2elijah said:

1. Not all people live in the States.

2. Internet is replacing TV for a lot of people.

BartVanHemelen said:

No kidding Bart. I was specifically stating that the commercial has in fact been aired during primetime, in the U.S. on cable and local channels, based on the post I responded to.

The real reason that Prince hates Youtube is because it's something that HE can't control.It's bigger,more popular and reaches a wider audience than anything that he could create on his own.Prince is a notorious comtrol freak and that's why he has alot of problems with sites like Youtube and the Internet in general.If he can't control it,it's "evil" in his mind.He seems to be living in another era.The world has moved on.Youtube has basically become the new MTV and it's a shame that he won't embrace the enormous possibilities,in regards to promotion and marketing.

sassybritches said:

I don't think its so much about the commercial itself, but more based on the fact that he just does not like the concept of youtube at all, and the fact that youtube allows people to put up videos/music that belongs to artists, without the artists' or record companies permission. I remember back in the mid 80s - mid 90s, a lot of artists from back in the day were angry that other artists sampled their music, and the artists that did the sampling were making money, while the original artist who the music belonged to, didn't receive a dime from it.

It reminds me of when the writers for tv shows, had issues with tv network execs, airing shows writers wrote for tv, and then later down the road, tv network execs decided to air those same shows on the internet for viewers to watch, and many writers were opposed to that because they felt, at the time, network execs were making money from sponsors/adverstisers on the internet for the shows the writers wrote for, and they weren't? Not sure if anything came out of that for the writers. I also remember that whole deal with Napster and other wesites allowing customers to download artist's music for free.

It's still hard for artists today than it was back in the day, to make decent money for their work with so many people stealing it. Youtube is a great place for artists to get exposure, unfortunately the downside is people being able to listen to your music without having to pay for it, whether it's copied to a youtube vid with a still pic or put up on a torrent or other websites, that can put up artists music for free.

Times have definitely changed for sure, artists definitely need to have a backup system in case their career don't last too long or just never takes off or know someone in the biz, like a well-known established artist, that can help jump start their career.
[Edited 4/4/09 17:57pm]

SoulAlive said:

You're right about youtube. It is the new MTV. I remember back in the day when MTV aired videos and people used to record them. Now since the internet has been born, there's a much wider audience to reach, worldwide, much quicker exposure.
[Edited 4/4/09 17:51pm]

2elijah said:

there are quite a few prince songs containing that word, used by prince, in a non-ironic way.

Oh cripes.
Who gives a shit.
His decision
His commercial.
Let him do what the hell he pleases with it.

SUPRMAN said:

Your deduction, not my intention.
You turn my words around, my dear.

2elijah said:

I did not say it was acceptable.
I wrote it depends on various things.
Generally:
(white) Americans of course have this past with that word.
(black) Americans can use the word without that 'load'.

why did prince use the n word in so many songs?

stanleylieber said:

See the lyrics?
We can discuss each instance.

udo said:

no way dude the logic has already been laid out. the n word is not acceptable under any circumstances.

article = 0
prince = 0

thread dismissed

It is the year 2009...

I actually dont want to get drawn into this subject, I got beaten up last yr by a redneck american MP over this, although his english was so bad I initially thought he was a neo nazi German, which did not go down well with the german police at the time.

...and ignorance still prevails

i have not read the article.

stanleylieber said:

It's a descriptive word like any other.

It just happens that in the mouths of a lot of people what it implies with it's description is unacceptable.

Chris Rock for instance uses it all the time.

check the article again BTW, the guy's removed the comment, lol.
[Edited 4/5/09 3:44am]

Spank86 said:

wait so you mean it's okay for some people (like prince) to use the word, but it's not okay for other people (not prince) to use the word?

i think i am starting to get it.

stanleylieber said:

Actually I hate it when prince uses it, it think it brings him down as an artist.

However there are situations where it is acceptable, just as saying words like "fuck" is acceptable in some environments but not in church.

If you take away the history of the word then it's just a contraction of a description. Unfortunately you can;t just take history away like that so in certain mouths it will always be taken the wrong way. I would never use it in an article, but I find it quite funny that that one little word's become almost the entire focus of the discussion on the article.

Spank86 said:

I would love to say "Useless Cunts" in church, not sure if it would be acceptable though

What I find really funny is that f**k is another word for sex....so in effect if u are telling someone to f**k off or calling them a f**khead u are telling them to go sex off or a sex head.....

For some reason I find that hysterical Even words like dickhead seem less insulting and kinda amusing if u change it to "penis cranium"

chillichocaholic said:

Freud was right after all

Whitnail said:

Of course

chillichocaholic said:

I know this will sound utterly perverted, but I was cycling to work today, and had to stop at this traffic light, lovely sunny day, beginning of spring sort of thing. Anyway, there were these two girls in front of me, 16 or 17, eating ice-cream cones. It was absolutely amazing...opps

Whitnail said:

way to go off on a tangent u little deviate u

chillichocaholic said:

Thank god someone has a sense of humour on a sunday, NOW, where is my trenchcoat

Whitnail said:

Don't forget the dirty sneakers and the hat

chillichocaholic said:

Naw, today i will merely be watching my neighbours naked...in my slippers

stanleylieber said:

That was a very quick piece of research.
Why do you think the USA (probably white) population's ideas about acceptability are favoured elsewhere under all circumstances?
Situations can differ and the use of certain words can be less unacceptable or even more acceptable in these situations.
I did not say that these situations are very common or should be that way.