I find it funny when Prince has a new CD there's a bunch of review haters who say he sucks on either Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, LotusFlow3r, etc., yet, they keep buying his work and listening to it, CD after CD. Lol, what's that about?

to give you something to do

Just because someone is a fan doesn't mean that they are obligated to love all of an artist's output. I love Prince and have for decades, but I'll call a spade a spade and say that albums like Musicology and MPLsound are quite mediocre, in my opinion. On the flip side, I have really enjoyed recent albums such as Lotusflow3r, Planet Earth, & The Rainbow Children. Nothing wrong with stating one's opinion.

iGene said:

They are very, very

I am talking about Prince haters only, not just someone with an opinion.

It could be that they're not really haters, they just disagree

iGene said:

there is a big difference.

ChaosDisorder said:

Did you really just say you enjoyed 'Planet Earth'?

iGene said:

Define "hater"...

I'm getting real tired of that label being applied to anyone that doesn't like a Prince product.

And also the question, "well, if you don't like (insert latest Prince product) why keep coming back?"

Because we like enough of his work to say that, in general, we like Prince. Therefore, we eagerly await his next cd, video, interview, performance, etc.

I love 3121 but I didn't like Planet Earth. I like some songs on Graffiti Bridge and others I don't. I really didn't like that Stauros speech before the Essence performance but I love his version of "Motherless Child" so much that I can't sync my ipod (I lost the file when my computer crashed). Ups and downs...but overall, worth it.

Geez...don't ever get on the Bob Dylan roller coaster...

iGene said:

What's a hater to you? Someone that doesn't like very single thing Prince pisses on and sells to you? Is it just those that don't like anything past 1988? If it's someone who just doesn't care about Prince, and he isn't on their radar, and only knows "that When Doves cry song", then they're a top-40 listener at best, not a big part of his fan base.

People hate Lady Gaga or Britney Spears. They just don't care about Prince.

I hate Britney and Lady Gaga. I don't buy their stuff, or post reviews of their albums online. I couldn't care less about them. THAT is a hater. Prince has put out great, awesome, mind blowing material. He's created a high bar for himself, and when fans don't feel he's met that standard...then I guess someone will call it "hating", but what-ev.
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ChaosDisorder said:

Totally agree with the first part. Just because someone is a hardcore fan doesn't mean they automatically buy into anything and everything an artist puts out by default. I think it's the hard core fan base of any artist that keeps the artist thinking and pushing to do something different. Prince's toughest critics aren't Nelson George, or any of those guys. It's US. He knows that. It's not hating on something, it's calling a spade a spade, and if Prince wants to "keep it real" in music, then he'll have that reflected right back at him by his fans. Art reflects life, and life throws it right back.

fuck em', reviews are just other peoples opinons, and we all that opinions are like assholes, some of them stink!

ernestsewell said:

You took the words right out of my mouth. Well said.

Whats it about? Its about liking some stuff and not liking other stuff. How hard is that to understand?

Prince isnt a god, and this isnt a religion. There will always be a conflict between those who treat this as a religion and those who dont. Thats because there will always be sad people as well as normal people.

Why do i keep coming back? Because i want to, because i like most of what he does.

Why do you keep coming back? Because youve elevated Prince to the status of a god, and it shatters your weird little world whenever someone criticises him. Its unbearable to you.

iGene said:

Its funny how all the people who think u are talking about them rush onto the thread to denounce people who actually like the music lol. Its not people disliking anything in particular who are haters.

But those who haven't liked anything in ages yet come to tell u they still don't like it over and over again yes they are "haters". they certainly are not fans.

It the equivalent of returning to the same restaurant over and over and complaining about the food and service to management each time. So u liked the food 20 yrs ago. Common sense says the food has changed and u are not a "fan" of the restaurant anymore. Instead of whining about the bad food and ruining other folks dinners (who are happy with it) find some where else to eat. Its all based on common sense.

Prince haters are the ones who supposedly had enough of Prince's music years ago yet they are still buying it. If I don't like an artist, for example, Chris Brown, I don't go buying his new music and telling others negative things about it. The haters are only fueling the publicity of the project.

iGene said:

Well, it's not about being haters. It's about being discerning and holding out on faith that he'll surprise them.

I find it hilarious folks here like to hang labels but aren't aware of it. I hang labels too, but I'm damned well aware of what I'm doing when I say 'new power butt puppets'.

lotusflow3r is great, btw.

iGene said:

Who gets to make that class distinction?

I think a lot of people were disappointed with Planet Earth, and the fact that Prince isn't writing the same music he did back in the 80s. Which is crazy, because that's the reason why I'm a fan - his music is so diverse and different, he never stays in one box.

If I wanted to hear Controversy or 1999, I'd listen to Controversy or 1999. Right now, I'm just enjoying what he's giving us now.

So whats the problem? If someone says that they dont like his music, and still wants to buy it, so what. Strange? Yes. Hater? Hardly. Any of our business? No.

Those that heavily criticise his music show how good Prince is at getting a wide variety of reactions, which is one of the things that makes him interesting.

And those whose world is shattered when that happens show how easy it is to become blindly obesessed.

I could write paragraph after paragraph about what i wish Prince would do differently or what im not keen on, and if i did it would probably give the impression that i dont like him at all. But i could also write paragraphs about what i do like about his music, and then it would sound like i have nothing negative to say.

The trick is to stay sane when hearing criticism, and not get zealous. If someone criticises Prince and still buys his music, the sane thing to do is say "oh well, i guess they have mixed opinions", rather than point and say "hater".

People who call others haters should ask themselves why they have such a strong emotional response to the fact that "haters" criticise, or buy his music, or listen to it. The answer is that they are blind zealots. Let them criticise while still buying his music and coming back again and again, its none of anyone elses business, is it? Unless one chooses to make it an issue for themselves, as a result of their weird little Prince religion.

The reason why these zealots are so obsessed with wondering why people criticise and yet listen to Prince is because they find it incomprehensible that its possible to have mixed opinions. So when they ask the question, they dont really want an answer. They just want an excuse to say "hater".

Its so silly.

leafar said:

Because these folks who pin labels on others hate the read spirited opinions that differ from their own.

They're nazis

Prince's music is alive...and If the hater's wanna persist...U know what they say...
"live and let die."

Oooh, be careful when you refer to zealots as nazis. They dont like it one bit, and their response is "how can you compare...".

Well, you can compare, because there is a very real comparison to be made. Zealots cant tolerate opposing opinions, so they wish they could stamp them out. The best they can do here is say hater.

one can hope for a decent album again - right? I try to give any artist I like a shot, and Prince has many many songs I love. sO why not give him the benefit of the doubt? Doesn't mean I have to like it after the fact.

A Prince hater is one who hates the man himself, point blank.
Jus cause u don't like some songs or a couple of albums doesn't make u a Prince hater.
On the other hand...those that constantly talk Prince down because they may not like an album or some songs, yet will go buy the albums =
Wats so hard in listenin and buyin wat u like and jus leave the rest alone?
Talkin down a song u don't like won't change the song
Maybe they like the showmanship. Studio version might sound dull but live he can tear it up. So it can be that wats still keeps them clingin on --- Hope...
But they should stop though...really...it looks pathetic.

THEN...there are those that will hate a song, the way it was sung, the lyrics or the music and will try to tear u down verbally u because u love the song or lyrics or music and Prince for singin it = more I tell ya

Fans who refer to other fans as "haters" because they don't worship everything purple deserve a kick in the face. Really, I'm tired of you obsessives. Just go start a cult somewhere and leave the rest of us alone.

Dayclear said:

Truth