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Reply #60 posted 04/04/09 5:41pm

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mzkqueen03 said:

..well it came in the mail yesterday!!!..man it is such a good collection..but now that i have both crystal ball AND dream factory..i can honestly say dream factory kicks crystal ball up and down the street..dream factory is more concentrated and the quality of prince's music is in his voice...so talented..
..mzsexybaby sexy


sigh... This CB isn't an album, it's a rip-off engineered by Prince. For which he shouldn't have used the name "Crystal Ball". The real CB is a completely different beast.
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Reply #61 posted 04/04/09 7:15pm

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I got a credit card for the first time because of CB. I remember thinking it shouldn't be so difficult to get a hold of someones music. It took about 6 months for it to arrive and I'd moved house by the time it arrived but once I got a hold of it, I was happy with the free t-shirt. I didn't fall in love with it and I didn't hate it but I think there are some nice songs on there. I'm glad I have it. I bought 3 copies from Amazon when they were clearing them out for $8.99 each.

Good for you! I only bought one copy, because I wanted to have the clamshell case, but I should have bought more.
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Reply #62 posted 04/06/09 2:06pm

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BanishedBrian said:Funny coincidence I guess that songs like Strays of the World and Goodbye, that were originally written as album closers, closed their respective discs, or that album 2 started with Interactive (originally written as an album opener after the Poem intro), then going into three hard rockers before Crucial (a song that transitions at the beginning from rock to R&B, allowing the disc to do the same)?

One of the biggest problems of CB is that instead of being a random or chronological anthology, Prince instead tried to make 3 cohesive albums from his back catolog. That's partly why the song selection sucked, and why songs like Crucial and Movie Star are ruined because he felt the need to edit them to make them seque into what followed. Prince admitted to much of this in interviews (or in statements at concerts) at the time (not to the songs selection sucking, but to the discs being "thematic" (disc 2 - rock; disc 3 - party), just like Emancipation was with disc 2 being the "Mayte" disc).
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I def. agree with you. But even with two disks, "Goodbye" and "Angles" could have closed either one. Let's remove the remixes, "Good Love" (it's already out), "An Honest Man" (boring), "Tell me How...", and "The Ride" (too overdubbed), and with all the extra space left because the disks were short anyway, it would be have been a great two disk set. I don't mind "So Dark" though. It's a good remaking. "Cloreen" went on just a bit too long, fun or not. But I feel ya on the "making them into coherent albums" opinion.
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Reply #63 posted 04/06/09 2:13pm

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has the 1990 (?) version of 'she gave her angels' ever surfaced anywhere? prince made a big deal in an interview about how wb didn't want the song on 'graffiti bridge' because of its overt religious content.

this reminds me of something tangentially related. i was listening to 'heaven is keeping score,' and it sounds to me like the little whisps of melody in that piece are very similar to some of the horn lines in the album version of the song 'come.'
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Reply #64 posted 04/06/09 4:44pm

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stanleylieber said:

has the 1990 (?) version of 'she gave her angels' ever surfaced anywhere? prince made a big deal in an interview about how wb didn't want the song on 'graffiti bridge' because of its overt religious content.
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I never heard of the song dating back 2 1990 neither did i ever hear of such a statement by Prince about WB (i mean, he DID release so much religious material on his WB albums). Can u xtrapolate please?
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Reply #65 posted 04/06/09 4:48pm

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madcapxtc said:

stanleylieber said:

has the 1990 (?) version of 'she gave her angels' ever surfaced anywhere? prince made a big deal in an interview about how wb didn't want the song on 'graffiti bridge' because of its overt religious content.
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I never heard of the song dating back 2 1990 neither did i ever hear of such a statement by Prince about WB (i mean, he DID release so much religious material on his WB albums). Can u xtrapolate please?


i wish i could dig up the text. it was one of the many interviews he gave during that period. he explained that the original version of the song was meant for inclusion on 'graffiti bridge,' but that wb objected and talked him out of it. he's always had final say about what appears on his albums, and he did agree to remove the song, but he felt like he was always being pressured to tone down the overt religious content. i believe in that same interview he also talked about how wb had been a little uncomfortable with 'let's go crazy' because it was about god and the devil.

i think there was a lot of bad blood in general over the 'gb' album and film. wb made him alter his script and recut the movie numerous times. it ended up being very different than what he had originally intended. the message in his script drafts is much more pointed.
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Reply #66 posted 04/06/09 8:53pm

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Somewhere stored I have the audio of the Muppets Tonight performance of She Gave Her Angels- it's awesome. Does anyone know if the show is available on DVD? That was a good show in general, I'd like to own a couple of episodes (including the Prince one).
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Reply #67 posted 04/07/09 7:11pm

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madcapxtc said:

stanleylieber said:

has the 1990 (?) version of 'she gave her angels' ever surfaced anywhere? prince made a big deal in an interview about how wb didn't want the song on 'graffiti bridge' because of its overt religious content.
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I never heard of the song dating back 2 1990 neither did i ever hear of such a statement by Prince about WB (i mean, he DID release so much religious material on his WB albums). Can u xtrapolate please?

I believe the statements are from the Musician magazine article, 1997. I remember it too.
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Reply #68 posted 04/07/09 7:17pm

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fms said:

madcapxtc said:



I never heard of the song dating back 2 1990 neither did i ever hear of such a statement by Prince about WB (i mean, he DID release so much religious material on his WB albums). Can u xtrapolate please?

I believe the statements are from the Musician magazine article, 1997. I remember it too.


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Reply #69 posted 04/13/09 11:13pm

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....EVERY1 PUT UP THE L-O-V-E SIGN YA'LL..
..mzsexybaby<---sick of evil knocking at my door exclaim
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #70 posted 04/14/09 2:43am

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stanleylieber said:

has the 1990 (?) version of 'she gave her angels' ever surfaced anywhere? prince made a big deal in an interview about how wb didn't want the song on 'graffiti bridge' because of its overt religious content.

this reminds me of something tangentially related. i was listening to 'heaven is keeping score,' and it sounds to me like the little whisps of melody in that piece are very similar to some of the horn lines in the album version of the song 'come.'
[Edited 4/6/09 14:13pm]

lolness!!! this song is written 4 Mayte!!! bwahahahaha!! lol
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Reply #71 posted 04/14/09 3:02am

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fms said:

madcapxtc said:



I never heard of the song dating back 2 1990 neither did i ever hear of such a statement by Prince about WB (i mean, he DID release so much religious material on his WB albums). Can u xtrapolate please?

I believe the statements are from the Musician magazine article, 1997. I remember it too.


http://princetext.tripod....ian97.html

Doesn't specify which album though:

So one element of creativity missing for you in the Warner years was that freedom to say what you wanted to say in your lyrics.

Right. I had to take some other songs, like "A Thousand Hugs and Kisses" and "She Gave Her Angels," off the Warner albums because they were all about the same subject.
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