jill4life said:

Jimi, during the 60's was praised for his music. It wasn't as if people thought black people didn't or couldn't play guitar. But nobody, white or black played it like Jimi. And no one thought it was a "white" or "black" way of playing guitar.

SUPRMAN said:

i think 'trc' is easily his best work since 'tge.' i just don't care for the message or most of the lyrics. great music, though.

funny you should mention playlists above. i recently made a huge compilation of tracks for a friend and it was 22 hours long. these are basically my essential jams. i dislike shitloads of prince songs but i like many more.

NuPwrSoul said:

Well said. I listen to rock music also and Prince ain't always hitting there either. Lyrically Prince can get lazy. His tendency to whatever it takes for a rhyme sometimes results in lyrical disasters. He should collaborate with me for instance on songwriting for growth.

If Prince were aiming at those standards though, he'd have no problem hitting them. But he doesn't seem to care about that right now.

1725topp said:

LOL I could only play it when my mother wasn't home but my siblings would tell her I was playing it. I'd play it standing in the living room window so I could see my mother pull up in the driveway.

stanleylieber said:

He can be both . . . . . Which I think IS his point.

stanleylieber said:

I like so much, people assume I like ANY Prince. I can listen to just about any Prince though, it's what I default to when I want to listen to music but don't know what.

NouveauDance said:

Wrong....Nope read Tricky99's thread again .....NouveauDance ....

It's sad that you and some others on the org don't want to face you own "personal" problems dealing with this topic ....you have got to learn to move on from the 80's you can't like all of Prince's music because his musical spectrum is so wide and so great and yours is limited to what you like.....it's really simple....that's what makes him a genius...

If you don't like a track just say it ....I don't like this ....It's not a quality issue it's your ears....it how it makes you feel....it's your limitations on his (prince's) music not Prince's

That's why i've said "personal taste"....you have to face up to this...IF you don't like a Prince track it's not because the track is not good or it's lacking in quality... it's because it does not match your personal taste....I've never liked all of Prince's music or albums and I respect that his ear is far greater then mine....I can't write "Kiss" etc.. you can't ....please respect this...

On to YOUR point of "white fan" stuff get this right ....what Tricky99 is saying which is right is that Most Reviews "Newspapers" "Rolling Stones" etc..will lean towards the pop/rock "Purple Rain" side of Prince as the "high" point in his career ....very few even take note of "For You" or "SOTT" or "TRC" of "Gold" or "Emancipation"....why it's all down to "crossover" or "pop" music when an artist that is "black/non-european" makes a record that transends his/her genre into "pop" "popular" "white" and "black" culture.....Grow Up it's been happening for years...

That's Tricky99 good thread....

Whitnail said:

Hey Whitnail.....tell me you don't like any of MJ's music....please tell me, his dancing or his videos...tell me you were never into them ....show me how "cool" you are ? your in your 30's right....

Tell me you Never danced to an MJ song.....

That's the problem with light-weights like you so call "music" fans ...

Now back to your point...oh you don't have one and you agree with me and Tricky99... ....next..

Good opinion - just next time, take out the word "extraordinarily" - that's a weasel word.

Look at the typical age, race, demographics and income level of typical computer users around the world, it's NOT middle-aged, minoriy, low-income Americans like myself that came up with RnB and Prince's music before the internet, it's them and the other music is all they know. Half the orgers on here weren't even around when Prince was at his Zenith, before the PC was even invented, I don't blame them, they just don't know.
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LondonStyle said:

Thanks London. U completely get what I was trying to say. I was not naming names or accusing anyone of being a racist. People tend to like what they are raised on.

You are arguing what I have been arguing on here for years. And that is if we accept that prince is a genuis we should also assume that how he hears music is more advanced then the average music listener. Its very egotiscal to assume that the music created by this "genuis" is bad because u personally don't like it. Why not just accept that it is not your cup of tea because obviously there are other fans getting great pleasure from the very same music created by a so-called genuis.

Very well. I now understand your point completely, and it need never be expressed again because I am in complete agreement

Let it be known from here on in that Prince is a genius who's hearing is far in advance of any other mortal beings, and as decreed by tricky99, if you do not like any song by Prince, this is 100% down to your personal taste and does not reflect on any other factor at all concerning Prince's effort or intentions regarding said track. Each track is his beautiful child borne from divine inspiration from Yahweh.

Now this declaration has been voiced, it need never be done so again as everyone now knows this to be The Truth. To this end, we will never again see tricky99 typing out yet another condemning diatribe about personal taste in reply to someone who has dared make the most heinous of crimes in airing their opinion.

tricky99, you are indeed first in line to sit by the right hand of Prince in the New Kingdom, and with your permission, I make the humble request that I be allowed to be a human table upon which you may rest your tofu burger when you gazing upon our Lord Prince.

NouveauDance said:

....sorry did you just say sumthin....

In my opinion as a Prince music listenter, U either stand on the solid rock of Prince's talent and Fame or U sink into purple quick sand...It gets deeper...

My time is running out.

so the "critical thought" part of this was acting like anyone wanted to discuss this. But in reality you have two people I can se that support the latest offerings and don't want anyone talking bad about it. Why didn't you just say so ,then no one would have had to waste their breath? It is apparent that it really doesn't matter what your musical tastes, dislikes or likes are. What matters is that no one is allowed to call Princes stuff poorly done. I have no idea how long you've been listening to Prince (specifically TRicky99 and Londonstyle) but I've been doing it since I heard Soft and Wet on the radio and thought - who is that chick! great track!! But somehow your "critical thought" is that I must be one of those late to the table fans if I don't LOVE every drop from his squirting guitar (oh wait- a Purple Rain reference...my bad). As a fan of any music you have every right to love or dislike the music that the artist is putting out. you have a right to your opinion. But on the org, that right is only valid if you don't talk negatively about the golden idol. Next time title your thread appropriately - "everyone who disagrees with me has a serious problem".

Zannaloaf said:

You really should try reading the first thread and then making a comment afterwards.....just because you heard Prince in the 70/80's does not mean you should not read a thread first Tricky99 thread has some good points.....

Your comments are based on age but not wisdom ...

LondonStyle said:

stanleylieber said:

Do u think that all black guys should be able to rap?
and all white guys can't rap good enuff to rap...publicly?
or Prince shouldn't rap publicly cause, in your opinion, dude can't rap

ehuffnsd said:

more successful yes. .marketing me'shell properly ..yeah ok ...

JayJai said:

uhmmhumm i'm as well.

tangerine7 said:

i suppose i was being a little obtuse.

stanleylieber said:

A million

No More Candy for you he's mocking the youngins in today's music yet he's emulating their style (cher sound effect - every rapper is using that crap) instead of forging ahead with his own brand or creating a new one. It's ridiculous.

SUPRMAN said:

IN

THIS

THREAD



It's the crutch Tricky and London are resting on!

tricky99's explanation a page or two back can also apply in reverse:

maybe all of prince's music is crap and we are simply weighing it down with our hallucinations that it is good.

i agree that our opinions are ultimately meaningless, but if we're going to talk about prince at all then our opinions are going to come into play.

now that we know that, what do we know?

LondonStyle said:

You are so full of it My faves since the 80s:

• Grafitti Bridge
  
• 
  
• The Gold Experience
  
• Chaos & Disorder
  
• Exodus
  
• Newpowersoul (yes even New Power SOUL!)
  
• The Rainbow Children
  
• One Night Alone
  
• 3121

According to you we haven't moved on from the 80s yet I love all those post 80s albums. I'm sure some of those are on your list too but I'm the one who's stuck only loving one era and one type of Prince music.

just imagine if prince had made strictly r&b albums in the '80s. then where would this argument be.

tricky99 said:

So:

IF Prince is a genius = Prince has superior musical hearing = Prince's should not be criticized ?

There are a lot of leaps in logic & many assumptions made represented in those equation marks.

NuPwrSoul said:

I would really love to have a clear accounting of exactly who is JW in this thread. Something tells me the pliant plebes rolling over for a purple fucking have already been conditioned not to question anything in their lives already.

a person's religion is their own business but i can say it got a lot harder to participate in the fan community when prince became a jw.

remember ten years ago when you weren't a real prince fan if you ate meat?

stanleylieber said:

Own business or not if we had an honest and true accounting of who is who the air would become a lot clearer in here. When NPGMC existed we didn't have as many people round here who declared Prince the perfect goddess. Once that site closed down, that way of thinking became very common around here.