Yes they would. They all played together at the Family Jamm a few years ago and expressed that they wish Prince had been there. Wendy and Lisa both have played with Prince in recent years (Brit awards, Tavis Smiley). Prince had part of the Revolution together in 2000 (Brownmark, Fink, Bobby) at one of the Celebrations. Prince also tried to get Wendy and Lisa to finish Roadhouse Garden. Prince has even apologized, in so many words, to the girls, on "In This Bed I Scream".

They'd be fools to NOT do it at some point. This year would be perfect because of the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain. Or even in two more years with the anniversary of Parade (their last album together).

ernestsewell said:

They arent fools if they have families and think of them first which they ALL do

The 80's are over let them do what they want IMHO. Is wa a fun era but let it be at peace.

toots said:

As much as a 'genius' as Prince 'was' and believes he still 'is' I think its almost cetain at some point they will all get together once again. It's pretty obvious Prince's beliefs are pretty heavy in terms of the industry and he's burnt alot of bridges over time. As much as I hate to say this, he isnt the same as he was in the 80's, ever since the departure his music, creativeness and soul havent been the same. He as in Prince needs them more then they need him at this point in his career...his dwindling fan base will always listen but one thing is for certain he isnt creating new 'fans'...plus his 'messaged music scope' is getting really BLAND!....

GMAN

GMAN2000 said:

I respect ur opinion and thoughts but I never said he wasnt the same man in the 80's. He never made a "departure" just took a break IMHO from music which any musician is allowed to do.

Dont read things into soemthing that isnt, what I stated was a OPINION only.

No harm really

for those of you who do not know me trust i am NOT a "new to prince" fan in the least. i am seriously posing this question to see what people think...



for whatever the reasons may have been (we all know a few im sure) do you think if prince made his peace and compromised with all members of the revolution, THEY would come back to working with P? knowing that the creative union would at least generate ONE if not more than 1 timeless record?





i ask this because the longer i am a fan, i realize every complaint i have about a prince record usually equal up to the lack of something wendy and lisa brought to the table. I didnt "get it" earlier in my fandom but it becomes more and more obvious every year. NOT to suggest P isnt a contender on his own, but seriously- we all know whats missing before we even ask the question...

its the same thing that was missing from the first two albums

*(dirty mind is a shooting star in the prince canon. and i say that with respect for what he achieved TRULY on his own)

i mean we all heard what a monster "Dream Factory" was gonna be...


so again i ask...

prince rings.

"hey gang. lets just do it again. i'll play nice this time ( ) "

you think they would do it?

(keep in mind even if wounds from the 80's were still fresh- a TRUE collaborative revolution album would probably be the most lucrative choice for all parties - just from a business standpoint)



ok.go

planet earth wasn't the full revolution...and im tempted to believe most recent collabs with W&L have been under Prince's iron fist and NOT a true three-way project

Seriously, I know that many things have happened between Prince & the Revolution members over the years-that is truly sad. But just once I think we all would like to see them possibly tour again. Afterall, regardless of how they may feel about it that era/PR really made them famous and yes it even catipulted(spelling) Prince into superstardom

SirPsycho said:

You're not the only one who doesn't like the song Dream Factory. I never liked it, and I can't imagine a whole album title based around it.

I have mixed feelings about a reunion.

TyphoonTip said:

this is gonna sound like a "smart comment" but hear me out...


prince isnt the beer and chips type..


prince is the "love and music are the only things worth fighting for" type




i think sound is all prince cares about, but his EGO gets in his way. (i'm th same way, thats why i feel so strongly about it)


my question was/is: if the "captain" put his ego aside, who here thinks the "crew" would re-enlist out of instinctual devotion to the ship?

It would be wonderful if Prince reached out to former band mates in the spirit of reconciliation. But I don't think he's ready. Listening to his music, the emotional tone in his work, I don't hear much love and understanding. I hear wishful thinking, evasion, ego. And his ego is so monstrous now I doubt a collaboration would do any good.

No, what Prince needs to do is put his ego on a diet. Stop listening to yes men, stop feeding on his own press clippings, and stop relying on celebrity for a sense of self worth. Then, he might get in touch with his humanity again, and start speaking from the heart.

Only then will Prince music come to life.

toots said:

actually i dont remember anyone asking this question...


what most people seem to miss is, i wasnt asking should or could it happen...

i was asking do people think the revolution members WOULD give prince a seoncd chance



(i think the mod's noticed that too)

Man, I wish these less informed fans would get over the Revolution and the nostalgia tip. IT is only because they are in the movie and that image is more lasting. If not for Purple Rain, they would have jsut been an old lineup for former Prince sidemen. Ther eis nothing special about them relative to the more recent bands Prince has used. THe Musicology NPG was one of the best - if not THE best he ever had. At any rate, they crush the post-Dez Dickerson version of the Revolution.

Wendy and Lisa are so grossly overrated that it is comical now. FOr years, people were crediting them with writing the song, Purple Rain! Ridiculous. I am so sick of it.

Okay, so I'm doing something that I hate for other people to do, not address the question of the thread. But, I don't miss W&L's contribution. I respect and love the work that they did with P, but I am one of those rare fans that love his current work as much as I love the work of the 80s when I was in high school and college. Of course the thread is would they return and not do I wish they would return, so, I'll shut up now.

july 18th 1986 configuration

1. VISIONS
2. NEVEAH NI ECALP A
3. DREAM FACTORY
4. TRAIN
5. THE BALLAD OF DOROTHY PARKER
6. IT
7. STRANGE RELATIONSHIP
8. STARFISH & COFFEE
9. INTERLUDE
10. SLOW LOVE
11. I COULD NEVER TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR MAN
12. SIGN O' THE TIMES
13. A PLACE IN HEAVEN
14. CRYSTAL BALL
15. THE CROSS
16. LAST HEART
17. WITNESS 4 THE PROSECUTION
18. MOVIE STAR
19. ALL MY DREAMS

Se7en said:

The song 'Dream Factory' grates. Arguably the second worst song on 'Crystal Ball.'

padawan said:

Spirit of reconciliation? For what? Moving on? Is Prince supposed to be chained to them or something? It's not personal, it's business. Do I have to stay in touch even when we don't work together anymore?

SUPRMAN said:

I'm not sure why we all respond to posts like this. I'm guilty of it, in fact I'm about to do it right now! Ready? Here I go:

I love Dream Factory, It's one of my favourite all time P tracks. I almost had a heart attack the first time I heard the properly mastered (albeit different) version on CB (97). To my ears, it's one of the funkiest tracks he's ever put to tape.

I'm not sure why we all get so pent up about differing opinions. It's pretty clear that you can have 2 hardcore P fans that completely despise each other's taste in both P's music and music generally.

I guess it's testament to the breadth of his catalogue. I can't think of another artist that divides fans simply via their music. Usually that's the uniting force.

This is a good thing.

Be Zen.

toots said:

When an 'artist' such as Prince has stated he 'is it', he most definetly had left the 'scene' right after the PR ERA, IMO...he changed, hasnt done the same sound, tempo, musical source or used anything 'post any albums'. Yes he is always different but really whats the point? It pretty much set in stone Prince's greatest works were and will always be Controversy-1999-Purple Rain, those two-three albums set his 'message-tone-music history', no matter what he should'nt just ignore his past, upbringing and the people who helped his cause in the business. I love ANY of his music since those three albums but ANY fan who says they love it MORE, understand it MORE, Feel it more etc...is really not a true PRINCE fan IMO. We all know he can make more of the same and we ALL want it, MPLS Sound IMO is as close as he has came to pretending to be in that ERA....its just not the same without all of his past company. They need and will eventually come back together as I stated before,....the solo Prince isnt as exciting as he once used to be.....its wearing real thin and his musical messages arent anything more then repetitive blurbs on the same subjects.

I'm all about P but he needs to join forces once again and get jamming.

GMAN
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nurseV said:

I don't. Seriously.
I don't expect Prince to do another Musicology type tour again.

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my in4mation is straight or did u cry so hard when septemer 6, 1986 hit u that it was a wrap!!

thanks Stanley for posting the track listing. it DOES help. and i DO love SOTT.
but based on what i've heard though of the unreleased trax, SOTT seems better. great books still need an editor right. i think SOTT was still quite SPRAWLING, a word used to describe it by many a reviewer. Sounds like Dream Factory may have been more conceptual and experimental but possibly NOT better than SOTT.

I don't believe that it is a case of Prince regrouping the Revolution to create great music. I agree with the original point that these were fantastic albums but it was Prince's mindset to collaborate at the time that was so different. They gave him different ears and allowed them to do so. recent work with Wendy and Lisa is the equivalent of having backing singers with added nostalgia. If the Revolution were back in the mix it would not necessarily lead to collaboration-that would be as I said prince truly saw it as a group

Yes they would. They all played together at the Family Jamm a few years ago and expressed that they wish Prince had been there. Wendy and Lisa both have played with Prince in recent years (Brit awards, Tavis Smiley). Prince had part of the Revolution together in 2000 (Brownmark, Fink, Bobby) at one of the Celebrations. Prince also tried to get Wendy and Lisa to finish Roadhouse Garden. Prince has even apologized, in so many words, to the girls, on "In This Bed I Scream".

They'd be fools to NOT do it at some point. This year would be perfect because of the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain. Or even in two more years with the anniversary of Parade (their last album together).

stanleylieber said:

I could enjoy that, a lot. Would've been my favorite Prince album.
The only song I'm missing is #2.

L4OATheOriginal said:

actually, i did cry. it was the first week of school, third grade.