SirPsycho said:

You're not the only one who doesn't like the song Dream Factory. I never liked it, and I can't imagine a whole album title based around it.

I have mixed feelings about a reunion.

datdude said:

Where are U getting these ratings from?

Visions was just a piano solo intro?

2 song out of about 19-20

Power Fantastic & In A Large Room With No Lights included

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I agree

The Dr also had influence in the musical direction, whereas W & L had musical and lyrical influence (including Susannah & Eric Leads)

SirPsycho said:

How do we know they had no input, in these albums?
From an interview with Lisa they have been adding pieces for a few years leading up to Planet Earth

The one thing I miss with buy the album, is credits:singers, musicians, engineers etc etc and Lyrics

OldFriends4Sale said:

lisa said wendy was supposed to work with him last year but didn't.

TyphoonTip said:

I don't think it's revisiting his past. These weren't clothes, these are people, people he was/is friends with. Even Sheila & Prince parted ways for a while and came back into play with each other (actually around the same time he did with Wendy & Lisa) 2004/2005

I mean if a good friend of mine or my cousin or brother parted ways for some years, I don't think it would be considered revisiting my past.

And these people were his friends. Just like Morris Day & Susan Moonsie (Matt Fink, Bobby Z, Alan Leeds)

And yeah I believe it has that minneapolis feel, the next album will have a more layed/textured feel

No. Sorry but just no. Prince went funk/rock religious and W&L went depressing pop-rock/folk angst. Mix all that up together and I hear clusterfuck.

stanleylieber said:

work with him last year on what?

OldFriends4Sale said:

dunno.

TyphoonTip said:

Same thoughts from me brother... Go The Blues

OldFriends4Sale said:

My comment was in reference to the original post, particularly: "....every complaint i have about a prince record usually equal up to the lack of something wendy and lisa brought to the table" [sic]. This seems to imply that Prince should have contact with W & L for the purpose of recapturing the sound they had, rather than catching up for beer and chips.

TyphoonTip said:

bear chips and making music lol

I think he needs to invite a few of them over to his house (In Minneapolis) and just jam in the studio

And hit some impromtu spots in the nightlife

Call up Dez Wendy Lisa Dr Fink Brown Mark Sheila Rhonda Jill pull Bria on stage
and go jam

Ifsixwuz9 said:

At least there would be life in the music!

OldFriends4Sale said:

To be honest I would just like him to stick with Michael B. If he did that, I'd be happy. But then again maybe I'm reaching for the past as well. ...Having said that, Michael B is on Lotusflow3r!

TyphoonTip said:

I'm not actually talking about being a band, I'm just talking about getting out and just jamming with friends new/old

I think it keeps it fresh, just hit the night life and I think even still in Minneapolis people have a special place for him. He could hit a spot and play music in a way I don't think he would be able 2 in LA

TyphoonTip said:

Give me an example or two of what that true MPL vibe and feel is

OldFriends4Sale said:

There are credits for the albums on LotusFlow3r.com. No mention of Wendy or Lisa. Just because they've done stuff for him doesn't mean he's used it.

TwiliteKid said:

There are credits? (in the cd case?)

Where are the credits
I'm just saying we don't know, L & W sang and played on some other songs on Planet Earth they weren't credited 4

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Kirky J & Tony were unfortunate, but he moved on. As he did w/ Larry Graham. There have been ups & downs. I don't think his current band is worse than the Revolution. But yeah maybe the creative influence is what he's missing. I do think they provided a good balance to him. I understand the argument, yes.

But even back then, When Doves Cry, Darling Nikki, Condition of the Heart, those are solo Prince creations. Raspberry Beret is a Revolution song. Slow Love. Baby I'm a Star. I like those but I wouldn't say they're that creative.

Sure, Parade is super creative, but Prince was just on a roll then. I imagine anyone who worked with him would have been along for the ride.

1999 is maybe his best album. Virtually no contribution from Wendy, and how much do you think Lisa contributed? I'm guessing it was pretty limited.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

you said it before i could. i'd prob nut off said clusterfuck



and still....did you notice what he just said?


so pretty much we'd get funky spiritual folk rock with a hint of a dark side....



now whereeee have i heard that befo...

oh, thats right...


the revolution



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TyphoonTip said:

this is gonna sound like a "smart comment" but hear me out...


prince isnt the beer and chips type..


prince is the "love and music are the only things worth fighting for" type




i think sound is all prince cares about, but his EGO gets in his way. (i'm th same way, thats why i feel so strongly about it)


my question was/is: if the "captain" put his ego aside, who here thinks the "crew" would re-enlist out of instinctual devotion to the ship?

P2daP said:

didn't I read somewhere that Prince basically emailed her the track and said "can you put guitar on this?". meaning it was probably less of a collaboration than you would think,,,

Se7en said:

you didnt like th album either? or just the song...



i mean, to each his own of course, but i love every single song i heard slated for that project...it may have not sold as much as previous albums, but i think it wouldve been his best album to date

OldFriends4Sale said:

Try reading my post. The credits are on the site, not in the CD.

What makes you thnik W&L are on tracks on Planet Earth that they aren't credited for? I've seen you make similar incorrect assertions around here without backing up your claims. Care to provide a source this time?

222 said:

isn't basically the only reason this never happened sooner is that for years prince wouldn't directly ask them to collaborate? like how he made that song on 'emancipation' but never actually, you know, called them?

at least he's asking them now.

soon, if we're lucky, maybe he'll even offer to pay them for their work.

It would be wonderful if Prince reached out to former band mates in the spirit of reconciliation. But I don't think he's ready. Listening to his music, the emotional tone in his work, I don't hear much love and understanding. I hear wishful thinking, evasion, ego. And his ego is so monstrous now I doubt a collaboration would do any good.

No, what Prince needs to do is put his ego on a diet. Stop listening to yes men, stop feeding on his own press clippings, and stop relying on celebrity for a sense of self worth. Then, he might get in touch with his humanity again, and start speaking from the heart.

Only then will Prince music come to life.

padawan said:

before everyone attacks you, i agree about what his music today reveals.

i dont feel he's completely out of touch with his humanity, but his art does hint towards an imbalance of a peace he wants and a peace he truly has

They were all in their 20s and in their prime when they collaborated as The Revolution. It was like the Perfect Storm.

I doubt you could recreate that kind of creativity and magic, but I'm sure whatever came from that union would be great.

Se7en said:

That pretty much sums up what I think. Thankyou.

Put the idea of Prince's old bands in the perspective of an old girlfriend.....
The idea of going back is always tempting but its better to move forward than to get stuck in the same pit.