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Thread started 03/30/09 7:49am

2freaky4church
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Song writing class for Preence!!

Ok, Preence--can I call you Preence?? His royal sophistry? Well, no matter. Preence, I really like your two albums, really I do. They are really peechy keen and all, but I gotta tell you--or is that U?--you do need to still work on that song writin and stuff, ok? Sure, the songs on Lotus and MPLS are really good, but I don't listen to Preence for really good, I listen to Preence for mind bending, sock shredding, cat strangling great, classic music. U know what eye,mmm sayunnn! Sure, you hit it out the park with $, but maybe that was a fluke or worse an old song reworked. So, just to let you know what I mean by classic music, I'd like to show you some examples from past greats:

Preence, love, lotusflower hottie, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...W18CzVzts4

This is how you do a dirty rock song. Make it simple, but make it original. Listen how that guitar cooks! Listen to the burn in John Fogerty's voice. Listen to the drive of the drums. That's how you put drums in the mix. Make it dirty. Your sound is too clean. Rawk dem kiddies.

For more complex rawk, look at this from Nirvana:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...L-vTYbN6AY

The haunting verse by Cobain, the way the soft turns into a driving hard guitar. Listen, Preence, listen. Lyrics that take chances: "I want to eat your cancer..." Preence, eat our cancer. Eat our pain. Listen to how loud the guitar is in the mix. The song is simple but complex. Rawk like this dammit!! Sorry 4 cursin. Freaky bad, bad freaky! no no no!

On the pop writing tip, you cannot beat the Beatles. Preence, don't go lyin, sayin that they didn't inspire ATWIAD, they did and you know it. Wendy and Lisa told us so, you gimp. Listen, this is how you write pop:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...US49XSN6Zs

Listen to that guitar intro?? Holy sheet, Prince, listen!! What a verse, what a chorus! Listen 2 how the guitars work with the vocals! Prince, this is how you write classic stuff. Here is ok, but it aint this.

We miss your weird stuff. Preence, remember how weird u would b on wreck' ard? Zappa, teach this motherflucker:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...f8TM4CIk5g

Weird, brilliant, odd, great! Preence, wack on us, wack on us. Bend rainbows, pal!

Preence, I do this out of love. Luv U long time. Really.

2 U from me. Luv u Preeeeenceee!!

kisses
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Reply #1 posted 03/30/09 7:52am

Jakeasaurus

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what
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Reply #2 posted 03/30/09 7:56am

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I'm sure Prince loves being told how to write songs. Well done. biggrin
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/09 7:58am

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The Mods won't let me write what I want to, but believe me I'm putting it out in the universe and it ain't pretty. mad
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Reply #4 posted 03/30/09 7:58am

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More hot mess on prince.org nod lol
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #5 posted 03/30/09 8:19am

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2freaky4church1 said:

jibber jabber



Okay, now run over to a Dave Grohl messageboard and proposed to him that he should replicate Here, Dance 4 Me, or Love Like Jazz.

Next, you can post to John Fogerty to consider writing a song like The Morning After, or perhaps $.

We'll see how serious their fans take your post on those boards, and how soon Grohl or Fogerty are able to duplicate Prince music.
He is exactly who we thought he was
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/09 8:38am

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what?
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/09 9:03am

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Dave GRohl didn't write Heart Shaped Box..lol

Kurt could have written Chocalate Box. John Lennon, if you remember wrote almost every brand of Music, as did Zappa.

My question, could Preence do Captain Beefheart.

Do Captain Beefheart? lol

Real luv is telling the truth. Didn't Preence teach us that...grouphug
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/09 9:06am

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Well you didn't really pose us or Prince with a question to begin with.

You were voicing your opinion on how you thought Prince should write songs. (Which you are perfectly entitled to do but do expect some to take exception with your "demand")
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/09 9:13am

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Ahhhhhahahahaha 2Freaky you brang da ruckus to da org... lol highfive

now, to the rest of you... Do you seriously believe that this is the best Prince could do as far as song writing goes? Are these lyrics on par with The Cross, IIWYGF, or anything off Lovesexy or Parade??? This felt like Prince makin' albums just for the sake of makin' albums...

Prince needs a little kick in the ass... so go'head 2freaky, go'head...
A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/09 9:18am

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As I have said, I like the albums. I also like carrots, but I don't eat them every day. I want an every day love affair. Preence, we know you have the skills. Those durned JW's done mooched the pooch. Religion poisons every little ting.
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Reply #11 posted 03/30/09 9:18am

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Doubltteamm! highfive
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On the pop writing tip, you cannot beat the Beatles. Preence, don't go lyin, sayin that they didn't inspire ATWIAD, they did and you know it. Wendy and Lisa told us so, you gimp. Listen, this is how you write pop:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...US49XSN6Zs

Listen to that guitar intro?? Holy sheet, Prince, listen!! What a verse, what a chorus! Listen 2 how the guitars work with the vocals! Prince, this is how you write classic stuff. Here is ok, but it aint this.



That fella George Harrison knew how to write a song. Paul and John need to stand aside and recognise him for what he was....the best song writer in the Beatles.
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Reply #13 posted 03/30/09 9:24am

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stu241273 said:


On the pop writing tip, you cannot beat the Beatles. Preence, don't go lyin, sayin that they didn't inspire ATWIAD, they did and you know it. Wendy and Lisa told us so, you gimp. Listen, this is how you write pop:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...US49XSN6Zs

Listen to that guitar intro?? Holy sheet, Prince, listen!! What a verse, what a chorus! Listen 2 how the guitars work with the vocals! Prince, this is how you write classic stuff. Here is ok, but it aint this.



That fella George Harrison knew how to write a song. Paul and John need to stand aside and recognise him for what he was....the best song writer in the Beatles.


What the F**K is going on .....that's a really stupid comment....you guy's need to lie down as your talking out of your ass... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #14 posted 03/30/09 9:25am

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U being sarcastic?
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Reply #15 posted 03/30/09 9:27am

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He didn't put the Divine on it because it was "too good of a song."

Prince, no no no!
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Reply #16 posted 03/30/09 9:27am

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2freaky4church1 said:

As I have said, I like the albums. I also like carrots, but I don't eat them every day. I want an every day love affair. Preence, we know you have the skills. Those durned JW's done mooched the pooch. Religion poisons every little ting.



Man you have just lost your god damn mind.....look you might like some tracks and hate others but you don't try to show Prince how to write a song....

Next you'll be teaching MJ how to dance....you need a rest....go to bed at say 9pm tonight.... lol lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #17 posted 03/30/09 9:29am

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lesson from me: Don't tell a control loving genius what to do.
This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream
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Reply #18 posted 03/30/09 9:31am

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Yeah, cuz Prince sure needs songwriting help from random message board posters

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Reply #19 posted 03/30/09 9:32am

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LondonStyle said:

stu241273 said:



That fella George Harrison knew how to write a song. Paul and John need to stand aside and recognise him for what he was....the best song writer in the Beatles.


What the F**K is going on .....that's a really stupid comment....you guy's need to lie down as your talking out of your ass... lol


What is it about my comment that you object to?
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Reply #20 posted 03/30/09 9:35am

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Stu, John Lennon was a bit better..lol

I am not judging Prince, I am showing him other artists who make great art. Great art, we need it. I am not schooling them, they are.
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Reply #21 posted 03/30/09 9:38am

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RenHoek said:

Ahhhhhahahahaha 2Freaky you brang da ruckus to da org... lol highfive

now, to the rest of you... Do you seriously believe that this is the best Prince could do as far as song writing goes? Are these lyrics on par with The Cross, IIWYGF, or anything off Lovesexy or Parade??? This felt like Prince makin' albums just for the sake of makin' albums...

Prince needs a little kick in the ass... so go'head 2freaky, go'head...



As much as I'm LOVING what I've heard so far I've got to agree with you there.

For this set of new songs, what I'm really enchanted with is the music not the lyrics.

With the exception of "Colonized Mind" and even then he had to throw in a dig at the music industry.

rose
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Reply #22 posted 03/30/09 9:45am

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What am I, burnt toast?
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Reply #23 posted 03/30/09 9:45am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Stu, John Lennon was a bit better..lol

I am not judging Prince, I am showing him other artists who make great art. Great art, we need it. I am not schooling them, they are.


That's great ..... but i think the conversations Prince had with James Brown and Miles Davis in the past may have helped him a little better..... rolleyes

Is there a 24 hour drug store near by your house .... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #24 posted 03/30/09 9:47am

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stu241273 said:

LondonStyle said:



What the F**K is going on .....that's a really stupid comment....you guy's need to lie down as your talking out of your ass... lol


What is it about my comment that you object to?



The fact you made it with out thinking how sh*t it was ..... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Nothinbutjoy said:

RenHoek said:

Ahhhhhahahahaha 2Freaky you brang da ruckus to da org... lol highfive

now, to the rest of you... Do you seriously believe that this is the best Prince could do as far as song writing goes? Are these lyrics on par with The Cross, IIWYGF, or anything off Lovesexy or Parade??? This felt like Prince makin' albums just for the sake of makin' albums...

Prince needs a little kick in the ass... so go'head 2freaky, go'head...



As much as I'm LOVING what I've heard so far I've got to agree with you there.

For this set of new songs, what I'm really enchanted with is the music not the lyrics.

With the exception of "Colonized Mind" and even then he had to throw in a dig at the music industry.

rose


Good point, the music is pretty good on most if not all the tracks. I witnessed this while I was up under the hood of my Volvo this weekend and I was rockin' out to Lotusflower... thankfully I couldn't hear most of what he was singin about and that made the album listenable... lol
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2freaky4church1 said:

What am I, burnt toast?


no... you're 2freaky4church1... I don't know and orger named burnttoast... hmmm

lol
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Reply #27 posted 03/30/09 9:52am

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Are these lyrics on par with The Cross


Black day.
Stormy night.
No love.
No hope in sight.


Not the most profound lyrics I have heard.


or anything off Lovesexy


If eye see 11,
U can say it's 7.


Deep, man, deep.

or Parade???


Act your age, not your shoe size,
maybe we could do the twirl.


Are you sure you want to argue this point?
We could go on and on.
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Reply #28 posted 03/30/09 9:59am

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RenHoek said:

Nothinbutjoy said:




As much as I'm LOVING what I've heard so far I've got to agree with you there.

For this set of new songs, what I'm really enchanted with is the music not the lyrics.

With the exception of "Colonized Mind" and even then he had to throw in a dig at the music industry.

rose


Good point, the music is pretty good on most if not all the tracks. I witnessed this while I was up under the hood of my Volvo this weekend and I was rockin' out to Lotusflower... thankfully I couldn't hear most of what he was singin about and that made the album listenable... lol


You should play all prince music when your under the hood of your volvo ...then you could judge the lyrical content better.... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #29 posted 03/30/09 10:05am

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Accujack said:

RenHoek said:

Are these lyrics on par with The Cross


Black day.
Stormy night.
No love.
No hope in sight.


Not the most profound lyrics I have heard.




If eye see 11,
U can say it's 7.


Deep, man, deep.

or Parade???


Act your age, not your shoe size,
maybe we could do the twirl.


Are you sure you want to argue this point?
We could go on and on.


When did people get the idea Prince is some sort of Bob Dylan ? When he wrote Jack U Off ? lol
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