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Thread started 03/27/09 9:43am

Riverpoet31

Why not 'keep' both Crimson AND The Morning after on the album?

As i hear it The Morning after would work rather fine after the more bluesy, guitar-soloing on Crimson and Clover.

It would light up the mood a bit, and would be a nice 'bridge' to the pop-soul of 4ever.

And hey, the album isnt THAT long itself allready. biggrin
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Reply #1 posted 03/27/09 9:43am

CrimsonLot3s

I wish he had!
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Reply #2 posted 03/27/09 9:46am

FunkyPhresh

He's trying to con people into buying the 77 dollar membership and the 12 dollar album. That's why =) lol
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Reply #3 posted 03/27/09 9:47am

CrimsonLot3s

mo money, mo sales. lol
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Reply #4 posted 03/27/09 10:01am

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The Morning After is such a cool song. It's a pop gem. With it's drum blast opening, Vanity 6 meets The Monkees keyboard foundation, pretty guitar fills and fun lyrics, it's much needed a blast from the Paisley past.

I'm sold.
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Reply #5 posted 03/27/09 10:04am

Riverpoet31

I find it a charming, but way too short pop ditty.

In that sense it reminds of All the midnights in the world.

They might be my favourite kind of songs Prince released this decade: All the midnights in the world, The Morning After and (despite its corny lyrics) Resolution.

Songs that built further on earlier examples like Manic Monday, Raspberry Beret and Starfish and Coffee, but somehow they still have a refreshing sound, breezy, kinda quirky, sounding lightweight at first, but actually well composed little pop-songs.
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Reply #6 posted 03/27/09 10:11am

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$89 is more than $77
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #7 posted 03/27/09 10:27am

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When I heard that the digital and retail configurations of LotusFlow3r would be different by one track, I figured I'd end up burning a copy with both "The Morning After" AND "Crimson & Clover" on it as my "official" version. I'm surprised, but it turns out that I like "TMA" well enough on its on merits -- but NOT on LotusFlow3r. It sounds out of place to me -- which takes some doing on an album as eclectic as this. Now, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the retail version where "C&C" is slotted into what feels like its rightful place while the other track is dropped altogether.
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Reply #8 posted 03/27/09 10:31am

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Jeez - it inst that complicated. THis is the first time Prince has ever released an album that had 2 versions in the tracklist. Other artists in various genres have been releasing import albums with bonus or unique tracks for years. If you were hardcore, you bought both to get everything. I mean each album is only costing you about $4 at Target. What other artist - legendary or not - has ever offered new material this cheap?

Besides, what major retailer is going to carry a set liek that without some exclusivity to push sales? If it was the same album on the download, Target wouldnt have the same incentive to enter a distribution deal with Prince.

For all the talk about the net replacing music stores, you cant name a major commercial success that wasnt readily available on the shelf at Best Buy or Target or Walmart or Circuit City or some combination of these stores. If the albums were just on his website there would be crying about how difficult it is to get them and burn CDs. In fact, there is already some grumbling about it being only at Target.
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Reply #9 posted 03/27/09 10:32am

BobGeorge909

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cuz the morning after BLOWS
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Reply #10 posted 03/27/09 10:32am

mushmackalenta

The song is pretty good and i think would have been a good fit on Planet Earth, Crimson works better on Lotusflow3r.

It's from 2006 so a wonder if it was considered for Planet Earth.
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Reply #11 posted 03/27/09 3:02pm

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cuz the morning after BLOWS

THANK U!!! I thought i was the only one with a confused reaction 2 that track. It's like the 4th part to the CINNAMON GIRL/ THE 1 U WANNA C/ LION OF JUDAH series...& that makes me sad. Even though, CINNAMON GIRL grew on me eventually, but i gave it way 2 many plays, so i kinda brain-washed myself on that one. (My choice, of course).
If U came 2 get your 'Purple Rain' on...U'RE IN THE WRONG HOUSE!!!!!!
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Reply #12 posted 03/27/09 3:22pm

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I really like TMA and, imo, it keeps LotusFlow3r from being too dreary during the first half. C&C doesn't do much for me.
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Reply #13 posted 03/27/09 3:23pm

Spank86

Brofie said:

Jeez - it inst that complicated. THis is the first time Prince has ever released an album that had 2 versions in the tracklist. Other artists in various genres have been releasing import albums with bonus or unique tracks for years. If you were hardcore, you bought both to get everything. I mean each album is only costing you about $4 at Target. What other artist - legendary or not - has ever offered new material this cheap?



point. But then consider that $4 is a little over the odds for 1.2 songs (the extra minute or so of boom)
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Reply #14 posted 03/27/09 4:59pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

cuz the morning after BLOWS most of my collection away


Glad you like it!
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Reply #15 posted 03/27/09 5:10pm

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More than likely its a business decision due to royalty payments which would be due.

How exactly would the royalties for Crimson & Clover be paid if it were available on the website...?

Would P have to fork up a royalty based on each $77 subscription...?
Would it be based on how many times Lotusflow3r was DL'd..?
Just how much of the $77 is considered revenue from the album sales..?
Since he is using his own site and not a site like itunes.. can royalties even be counted...?


Its a lot easier just to pay royalties based on the sale of a $12 album easily tracked through target, than trying to figure out compensation based on all the variables which come with the $77 subscription.
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Reply #16 posted 03/27/09 5:23pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

More than likely its a business decision due to royalty payments which would be due.

How exactly would the royalties for Crimson & Clover be paid if it were available on the website...?

Would P have to fork up a royalty based on each $77 subscription...?
Would it be based on how many times Lotusflow3r was DL'd..?
Just how much of the $77 is considered revenue from the album sales..?
Since he is using his own site and not a site like itunes.. can royalties even be counted...?


Its a lot easier just to pay royalties based on the sale of a $12 album easily tracked through target, than trying to figure out compensation based on all the variables which come with the $77 subscription.


Very good point. If royalties were based on downloads - and it seems like everyone has had to download many multiple times, Tommy James would get writer's cramp from endorsing all the damn checks.
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Reply #17 posted 03/27/09 5:43pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

More than likely its a business decision due to royalty payments which would be due.

How exactly would the royalties for Crimson & Clover be paid if it were available on the website...?


Another business decision to delete "The Morning after" from the Target set? hmmm and then streaming video of "Crimson & Clover" and "Creep" (covers) I wonder if those artists get a % of the 77? biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 03/28/09 1:49am

LiveToTell86

To make the hardcore fans buy the same thing twice. They pay for the digital download on Tuesday and the go to Target on Sunday because it has something new still, even though they do not like the packaging.
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Reply #19 posted 03/28/09 9:26am

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Riverpoet31 said:

As i hear it The Morning after would work rather fine after the more bluesy, guitar-soloing on Crimson and Clover.

It would light up the mood a bit, and would be a nice 'bridge' to the pop-soul of 4ever.

And hey, the album isnt THAT long itself allready. biggrin

My version will have both.
I like the song. And like a few others have stated it has that lite breezy pop sound that I like from Prince. And yes I like All The Midnights, Resolution stuff from Planet Earth too. I know it's not everyones cup of tea, but it is mine.
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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