NouveauDance said:

That's hilarious!

i shut my C A off when i here them flaying over head.

because i smell it about 45 min later. The oder fills my house if I dont.

whatever it is. They say its just jet fuel before they land.

even if it is...that isnt good by any measure.

BanishedBrian said:

during a summers day in a small city there isn't and shouldn't be that much activity over its skies from regular planes both passenger and cargo. Impossible.

people just are not paying attention. the trails turn into giant light fluffy clouds as they fall to the earth over a period of an hour or two. they no longer look like trails. The sky becomes 'cloud covered' in appearance. its simple observation. it happens. but what is it that is falling to the earth from the plans that is the question. NOT wether it happens or not. because it does happen.

You guys who are buying into this 'conspiracy' theory are ridiculously gullible and/or paranoid. The trails you see are either caused by jet exhaust or vortices. When water vapor is cooled enough, it may condense on a relatively warmer surface. You see it every day on your soda can or pitcher of grape Kool-Aid. In the upper atmosphere these particles are not usually just hanging out. You send a jet engine through that air spewing out exhaust and, presto! The vapor condenses on the exhaust particles and most likely freezes. If it is humid enough up there, the ice crystal will not be able to sublimate (turn back into vapor) and may hang out for a long time. If the air is stable, these newly formed clouds will slowly dissipate as they act like a gas to fill the space they are in. If the air is unstable, they can be twisted into oblivion rather quickly. They don't 'fall to the earth' any more than normal clouds do.

Wingtip or propeller vortices (little tiny tornadoes) can cause these formations but for a different reason. This is usually in lower air levels where the particles already exist but the humidity is not quite high enough for them to attract condensate. The wing or propeller tip comes along and spins the air, the center of the vortex has a much lower pressure than the surrounding air and drops in temperature rapidly. Now we have conditions where clouds can form.

Jet fuel might cause a trail until it evaporates which it usually does before reaching the ground. Small airplanes generally don't use jet fuel and don't have any means of dumping it even if they do. Large jets do not regularly dump fuel except in the case of emergencies. If they need to make an emergency or precautionary landing, they will dump fuel either to lose weight so they don't run off the end of the runway or so that any fire danger will be reduced. They try to do this at high enough altitudes that the fuel doesn't reach the ground since it is a known carcinogen.

Of course, there are places where they do fly over and spray for insects on a pretty regular basis. This is probably what they are doing when you smell stuff in your house. Probably nothing you can do about that and hopefully, you don't die of cancer 20 years from now.

Then, maybe I am wrong and they are actually spraying chemicals for some nefarious purpose. I can think of several better and more clandestine ways to introduce chemicals into your system. They could put it in your drinking water next to the fluoride, in your milk next to the vitamin D or in your bread next to the calcium. Hell, they could have put it in the Apple Jacks I ate this morning right next to the 'pyrodoxine hydrochloride' which they claim is vitamin B6 but who knows?

P.S. I forgot to get to the point ... before you start to get scared about something, do a little research to find out if it is worth being scared of. I believe most fear is caused by ignorance.
[Edited 3/29/09 7:21am]

Uh, Ive posted on this in P&R long ago and of course was laughed at ..
but yes there are CHEMTRAILS which they spray supposively to help protect the ozone or help global warming, but nobody really knows why..as the gov't and airforce do not talk about. Many theories out there..others think we are being poisoned purposely.....lots of asthma these days right? and other breathing problems. didnt use to be that way
CHEMTRAILS are much different than CONTRAILS, which some try to say is all we are seeing..CONTRAILS are condensation trails and are normal as jets release condensation as they fly, but those trails quickly evaporate and dont hang in the air and create odd looking streaks and fogs like the CHEMTRAILS do.

Some believe it is a form of "weather control".

You guys who are buying into this 'conspiracy' theory are ridiculously gullible and/or paranoid. The trails you see are either caused by jet exhaust or vortices. When water vapor is cooled enough, it may condense on a relatively warmer surface. You see it every day on your soda can or pitcher of grape Kool-Aid. In the upper atmosphere these particles are not usually just hanging out. You send a jet engine through that air spewing out exhaust and, presto! The vapor condenses on the exhaust particles and most likely freezes. If it is humid enough up there, the ice crystal will not be able to sublimate (turn back into vapor) and may hang out for a long time. If the air is stable, these newly formed clouds will slowly dissipate as they act like a gas to fill the space they are in. If the air is unstable, they can be twisted into oblivion rather quickly. They don't 'fall to the earth' any more than normal clouds do.

Wingtip or propeller vortices (little tiny tornadoes) can cause these formations but for a different reason. This is usually in lower air levels where the particles already exist but the humidity is not quite high enough for them to attract condensate. The wing or propeller tip comes along and spins the air, the center of the vortex has a much lower pressure than the surrounding air and drops in temperature rapidly. Now we have conditions where clouds can form.

Jet fuel might cause a trail until it evaporates which it usually does before reaching the ground. Small airplanes generally don't use jet fuel and don't have any means of dumping it even if they do. Large jets do not regularly dump fuel except in the case of emergencies. If they need to make an emergency or precautionary landing, they will dump fuel either to lose weight so they don't run off the end of the runway or so that any fire danger will be reduced. They try to do this at high enough altitudes that the fuel doesn't reach the ground since it is a known carcinogen.

Of course, there are places where they do fly over and spray for insects on a pretty regular basis. This is probably what they are doing when you smell stuff in your house. Probably nothing you can do about that and hopefully, you don't die of cancer 20 years from now.

Then, maybe I am wrong and they are actually spraying chemicals for some nefarious purpose. I can think of several better and more clandestine ways to introduce chemicals into your system. They could put it in your drinking water next to the fluoride, in your milk next to the vitamin D or in your bread next to the calcium. Hell, they could have put it in the Apple Jacks I ate this morning right next to the 'pyrodoxine hydrochloride' which they claim is vitamin B6 but who knows?

P.S. I forgot to get to the point ... before you start to get scared about something, do a little research to find out if it is worth being scared of. I believe most fear is caused by ignorance.
[Edited 3/29/09 7:21am]

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Chemtrails_On_German_TV.html

Is this thread for real or is it a joke???

djThunderfunk said:

I've got eyes, thanks, and they work just fine. I can see that those lines are there. What I'm asking is for solid, reliable evidence that it's anything but exhaust from jets. Sure, it's highly likely that there are chemicals in the exhaust that are harmful to the environment and to us, but so there is too in car exhaust.

Is there any reason to believe that it's chemical warfare, drug and/or disease testing, mind control or anything else? No.

djThunderfunk said:

What secrecy? We've already had an explanation posted on this thread as to what they are, and if you don't buy that you're free to look up a local aviation school or an engineer or even your local airport who can explain it to you. What do you believe is being hidden? I'm sorry, but an inability to do the research yourself is not tantamount to having information deliberately withheld from you.

bobsteezy said:

yes a mexican guy told me, as though it was common knowledge that it was weather control or a way to block the harmful sun rays out.

BanishedBrian said:

during a summers day in a small city there isn't and shouldn't be that much activity over its skies from regular planes both passenger and cargo. Impossible.

people just are not paying attention. the trails turn into giant light fluffy clouds as they fall to the earth over a period of an hour or two. they no longer look like trails. The sky becomes 'cloud covered' in appearance. its simple observation. it happens. but what is it that is falling to the earth from the plans that is the question. NOT wether it happens or not. because it does happen.

You guys who are buying into this 'conspiracy' theory are ridiculously gullible and/or paranoid. The trails you see are either caused by jet exhaust or vortices. When water vapor is cooled enough, it may condense on a relatively warmer surface. You see it every day on your soda can or pitcher of grape Kool-Aid. In the upper atmosphere these particles are not usually just hanging out. You send a jet engine through that air spewing out exhaust and, presto! The vapor condenses on the exhaust particles and most likely freezes. If it is humid enough up there, the ice crystal will not be able to sublimate (turn back into vapor) and may hang out for a long time. If the air is stable, these newly formed clouds will slowly dissipate as they act like a gas to fill the space they are in. If the air is unstable, they can be twisted into oblivion rather quickly. They don't 'fall to the earth' any more than normal clouds do.

Wingtip or propeller vortices (little tiny tornadoes) can cause these formations but for a different reason. This is usually in lower air levels where the particles already exist but the humidity is not quite high enough for them to attract condensate. The wing or propeller tip comes along and spins the air, the center of the vortex has a much lower pressure than the surrounding air and drops in temperature rapidly. Now we have conditions where clouds can form.

Jet fuel might cause a trail until it evaporates which it usually does before reaching the ground. Small airplanes generally don't use jet fuel and don't have any means of dumping it even if they do. Large jets do not regularly dump fuel except in the case of emergencies. If they need to make an emergency or precautionary landing, they will dump fuel either to lose weight so they don't run off the end of the runway or so that any fire danger will be reduced. They try to do this at high enough altitudes that the fuel doesn't reach the ground since it is a known carcinogen.

Of course, there are places where they do fly over and spray for insects on a pretty regular basis. This is probably what they are doing when you smell stuff in your house. Probably nothing you can do about that and hopefully, you don't die of cancer 20 years from now.

Then, maybe I am wrong and they are actually spraying chemicals for some nefarious purpose. I can think of several better and more clandestine ways to introduce chemicals into your system. They could put it in your drinking water next to the fluoride, in your milk next to the vitamin D or in your bread next to the calcium. Hell, they could have put it in the Apple Jacks I ate this morning right next to the 'pyrodoxine hydrochloride' which they claim is vitamin B6 but who knows?

P.S. I forgot to get to the point ... before you start to get scared about something, do a little research to find out if it is worth being scared of. I believe most fear is caused by ignorance.
[Edited 3/29/09 7:21am]

Uh, Ive posted on this in P&R long ago and of course was laughed at ..
but yes there are CHEMTRAILS which they spray supposively to help protect the ozone or help global warming, but nobody really knows why..as the gov't and airforce do not talk about. Many theories out there..others think we are being poisoned purposely.....lots of asthma these days right? and other breathing problems. didnt use to be that way
CHEMTRAILS are much different than CONTRAILS, which some try to say is all we are seeing..CONTRAILS are condensation trails and are normal as jets release condensation as they fly, but those trails quickly evaporate and dont hang in the air and create odd looking streaks and fogs like the CHEMTRAILS do.

what do you want to bet that at some point Prince gets interviewed on Art Bell?


or better yet, a guest contributor

Uh, Ive posted on this in P&R long ago and of course was laughed at ..
but yes there are CHEMTRAILS which they spray supposively to help protect the ozone or help global warming, but nobody really knows why..as the gov't and airforce do not talk about. Many theories out there..others think we are being poisoned purposely.....lots of asthma these days right? and other breathing problems. didnt use to be that way
CHEMTRAILS are much different than CONTRAILS, which some try to say is all we are seeing..CONTRAILS are condensation trails and are normal as jets release condensation as they fly, but those trails quickly evaporate and dont hang in the air and create odd looking streaks and fogs like the CHEMTRAILS do.

Cuddles said:

My problem with the theory that it is to block harmful sun rays (or others such as repairing the ozone) is this:
what is the likelihood that the government is doing something for our benefit, yet not taking credit for it?

Since contrails are clouds ... just like normal everyday clouds. They can hang around for hours and are subject to the whims of the winds just as clouds are. If they are formed in dry air, they will likely evaporate quickly. If the conditions are already favorable for the formation of clouds, they can hang around all day. If you have pictures of 'chemtrails' that look different than the obvious contrails in the video on the first page of this silly thread, please post them and we can discuss them. The ones in the video are contrails.

mritchey said:

I have some pictures, but I'm too stupid to figure out how to put them in this post. Educate me and I'll share a few...

Prince has had his tinfoil hat on for years now.

Moses is Akhenaton, chemtrails cover the skies, the puppet government want to put a microchip in your brain and is run by a shadowy group of fallen angels who interbred with humanity and now run Fox, Coca Cola and Warner bros. from secret underground facilities.

I think that about covers it.