djThunderfunk said: I hate to break it to you guys, but you don't have to stay up all night. Look up in the daytime. If you see planes leaving giant X's in the sky, that's it. It happens almost every day where I live, and a little googling informs me that it happens all over the US and all over the rest of the world. Everyone over 20 years old should easily be able to tell the difference between chemtrails and the normal contrails that follow behind planes.
But you know what... don't look up, don't research it, just believe it's an urban legend that only crazy people talk about. Believing is so much easier than learning and knowing after all... Back it up with a liuttle solid evidence and perhaps more would be willing to believe it. Much as we love the lil guy, everyone knows Prince is a loony so his word doesn't count. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Close2u said: I heard that line too,
I have seen chemtrails all over my city and I watched some videos on youtube about it too I like that Prince is not afraid to bring up real issues, doesn't Radiohead gave a song called chemtrails on the Rainbows album? I think your thinking of Becks song Chemtrails from last year can't believe what we've seen outside You and me watching the jets go by Oh, ooh, oh Oh, ooh, oh Down by the sea So many people They've already drowned You and me watching a sea full of people Try not to drown So many people So many people Where do they go? You and me watching a sky full of chemtrails That's where we belong All I can take from these scars is hope But all I can see in this night are boats sinking Oh, ooh, oh Oh, ooh, oh Down by the sea swallowed by evil We've already drowned You and me watching a sea full of people They've already drowned So many people So many people Where do they go? You and me hit by a touch of white evil Watching the jet planes go by You and me watching You and me watching The chemtrails is where we belong That's where we'll be when we die in the slipstream We'll climb in a hole in the sky The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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meow85 said: Back it up with a liuttle solid evidence and perhaps more would be willing to believe it.
"Solid evidence"? The evidence is in the sky; just look up. All we want to know is, "What is it?" Do you know? | |
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they have chemtrails and they are spraying you with a pheremone that will make you wanna eat a bucket of KFC chicken...run prince..run. | |
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This is a common topic on the syndicated radio show called "Coast to Coast AM" - heard 10pm-2am (pacific, USA). | |
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xpertluva said: Can someone hip me to this phenomena? I thought I was up on all of the conspiracy theories. I always thought those trails of smoke were nothing but jet engine exhaust.
That's what I'm sayin'! I never heard of any chemical type thing going on but this shit is scaring me. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Some believe it is a form of "weather control". | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Prince is talking shit. It's a tired conspiracy theory. Prince probably got it from some crazy person. They used to spray for Medflys in Los Angeles, because they were killing the fruit and it got people sick, so they stopped spraying it. There are theories that the government sprays poison over the black neighborhoods to kill black babies. Pure idiocy. No evidence to support it.
And you don't think it could be possible? Yes, please remain closed-minded. Ignorant sheeple like yourself must be good for something. | |
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PsychedelicGoof said: meow85 said: Back it up with a liuttle solid evidence and perhaps more would be willing to believe it.
"Solid evidence"? The evidence is in the sky; just look up. All we want to know is, "What is it?" Do you know? Solid evidence that it's anything harmful or to be concerned about. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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cinnamongirl24 said: 2freaky4church1 said: Prince is talking shit. It's a tired conspiracy theory. Prince probably got it from some crazy person. They used to spray for Medflys in Los Angeles, because they were killing the fruit and it got people sick, so they stopped spraying it. There are theories that the government sprays poison over the black neighborhoods to kill black babies. Pure idiocy. No evidence to support it.
And you don't think it could be possible? Yes, please remain closed-minded. Ignorant sheeple like yourself must be good for something. Is there any reason to believe there's some vast conspiracy involved? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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there's no chemicals in the sky in my world | |
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Close2u said: it couldn't be jet fuel, normal planes don't do that
Yes they do, if a certain amount of weight is there (commonly with too much weight) they need to get the weight down to be able to land properly they release the fuel in the sky which commonly turns into ice instantly due to the temperature ( reducing a lot of weight ). Close to all Passenger aircrafts are able to do this ----- and to the white lines in the sky, these are caused by the winglets on the plane (little finns on the sides of the wings)- This is no poisonous chemical, just a formation of air. This can be seen on any film or video documentary where there is close shots of the wings. [Edited 3/28/09 4:38am] | |
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Also FYI the US Govt. sprayed germs and bacteria on cities, buses, and subways during the infamous MK-Ultra projects of the 1950's.
MPLS had a school sprayed with a flu virus just to gage the time the flu would sprad through it's population. Real shit here people not some conspiracy theory. | |
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2020 said: Close2u said: I heard that line too,
I have seen chemtrails all over my city and I watched some videos on youtube about it too I like that Prince is not afraid to bring up real issues, doesn't Radiohead gave a song called chemtrails on the Rainbows album? I think your thinking of Becks song Chemtrails from last year Iknew I mixed up my uber punk alt music groups Thank you I have both of those albums, I haven't paid much attention to them with all these Prince happenings, [Edited 3/28/09 8:10am] | |
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I don't understand why it's suspicious that there are criss-crossing patterns. Assuming large commercial jets leave a visible fuel trail in certain weather conditions (i.e., clear sky), won't you naturally see a criss-cross from the fact that you have planes at different altitudes flying completely different routes? No Candy 4 Me | |
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Its sprayed so it makes u passive and dont wanna fight!-Bunny/Platoon | |
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meow85 said: djThunderfunk said: I hate to break it to you guys, but you don't have to stay up all night. Look up in the daytime. If you see planes leaving giant X's in the sky, that's it. It happens almost every day where I live, and a little googling informs me that it happens all over the US and all over the rest of the world. Everyone over 20 years old should easily be able to tell the difference between chemtrails and the normal contrails that follow behind planes.
But you know what... don't look up, don't research it, just believe it's an urban legend that only crazy people talk about. Believing is so much easier than learning and knowing after all... Back it up with a liuttle solid evidence and perhaps more would be willing to believe it. Much as we love the lil guy, everyone knows Prince is a loony so his word doesn't count. 1) I don't care about the Prince angle or whether he's "loony", or not... B) I offer evidence, look the f#*k up!! Look up in the morning, look up in the afternoon, look up in the evening. In less than a week you will probably see giant X's in the sky. Watch one. Watch how it dissipates. Then, try to find an "official" answer for what it is. I'm not saying I know what it is. I'm pretty sure Prince doesn't know either. But, I believe the lack of clear answers can't be a good thing. I don't ask you to "believe" anything, except your own eys... Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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meow85 said: cinnamongirl24 said: And you don't think it could be possible? Yes, please remain closed-minded. Ignorant sheeple like yourself must be good for something. Is there any reason to believe there's some vast conspiracy involved? Only if you consider secrecy to be indicative of conspiracy... Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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BanishedBrian said: I don't understand why it's suspicious that there are criss-crossing patterns. Assuming large commercial jets leave a visible fuel trail in certain weather conditions (i.e., clear sky), won't you naturally see a criss-cross from the fact that you have planes at different altitudes flying completely different routes?
It's much more than an occasional criss-cross. It is clearly multiple intentional X's. These X's then dissipate into a very wispy cloud like haze that spreads throughout the sky. Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Prince is talking shit. It's a tired conspiracy theory. Prince probably got it from some crazy person. They used to spray for Medflys in Los Angeles, because they were killing the fruit and it got people sick, so they stopped spraying it. There are theories that the government sprays poison over the black neighborhoods to kill black babies. Pure idiocy. No evidence to support it.
You can't take all conspiracy theories literal. They point to more accurate truths. The government may not be spraying chemicals in black hoods but it is a fact that a lot of dangerous chemical waste and corporate pollution end up in poor and politically weak communities. Plus P is into Dick Gregory (inspired Dreamer), one of the greatest conspiracy theorists. Did anyone read the recent NY Times story about PA juvenile judges receiving millions of dollars in payola for sentencing youth to certain private prisons? Some conspiracies are true! | |
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djThunderfunk said: meow85 said: Back it up with a liuttle solid evidence and perhaps more would be willing to believe it. Much as we love the lil guy, everyone knows Prince is a loony so his word doesn't count. 1) I don't care about the Prince angle or whether he's "loony", or not... B) I offer evidence, look the f#*k up!! Look up in the morning, look up in the afternoon, look up in the evening. In less than a week you will probably see giant X's in the sky. Watch one. Watch how it dissipates. Then, try to find an "official" answer for what it is. I'm not saying I know what it is. I'm pretty sure Prince doesn't know either. But, I believe the lack of clear answers can't be a good thing. I don't ask you to "believe" anything, except your own eys... I've got eyes, thanks, and they work just fine. I can see that those lines are there. What I'm asking is for solid, reliable evidence that it's anything but exhaust from jets. Sure, it's highly likely that there are chemicals in the exhaust that are harmful to the environment and to us, but so there is too in car exhaust. Is there any reason to believe that it's chemical warfare, drug and/or disease testing, mind control or anything else? No. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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djThunderfunk said: meow85 said: Is there any reason to believe there's some vast conspiracy involved? Only if you consider secrecy to be indicative of conspiracy... What secrecy? We've already had an explanation posted on this thread as to what they are, and if you don't buy that you're free to look up a local aviation school or an engineer or even your local airport who can explain it to you. What do you believe is being hidden? I'm sorry, but an inability to do the research yourself is not tantamount to having information deliberately withheld from you. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Lovesymbol2 said: Close2u said: it couldn't be jet fuel, normal planes don't do that
Yes they do, if a certain amount of weight is there (commonly with too much weight) they need to get the weight down to be able to land properly they release the fuel in the sky which commonly turns into ice instantly due to the temperature ( reducing a lot of weight ). Close to all Passenger aircrafts are able to do this ----- and to the white lines in the sky, these are caused by the winglets on the plane (little finns on the sides of the wings)- This is no poisonous chemical, just a formation of air. This can be seen on any film or video documentary where there is close shots of the wings. [Edited 3/28/09 4:38am] even if it is jet fuel, consider what jet fuel is. would you actually believe it to be harmless. would you actually believe if someone told you it was harmless? To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
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bobsteezy said: Some believe it is a form of "weather control".
yes a mexican guy told me, as though it was common knowledge that it was weather control or a way to block the harmful sun rays out. To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
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BanishedBrian said: I don't understand why it's suspicious that there are criss-crossing patterns. Assuming large commercial jets leave a visible fuel trail in certain weather conditions (i.e., clear sky), won't you naturally see a criss-cross from the fact that you have planes at different altitudes flying completely different routes?
during a summers day in a small city there isn't and shouldn't be that much activity over its skies from regular planes both passenger and cargo. Impossible. people just are not paying attention. the trails turn into giant light fluffy clouds as they fall to the earth over a period of an hour or two. they no longer look like trails. The sky becomes 'cloud covered' in appearance. its simple observation. it happens. but what is it that is falling to the earth from the plans that is the question. NOT wether it happens or not. because it does happen. To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
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You guys who are buying into this 'conspiracy' theory are ridiculously gullible and/or paranoid. The trails you see are either caused by jet exhaust or vortices. When water vapor is cooled enough, it may condense on a relatively warmer surface. You see it every day on your soda can or pitcher of grape Kool-Aid. In the upper atmosphere these particles are not usually just hanging out. You send a jet engine through that air spewing out exhaust and, presto! The vapor condenses on the exhaust particles and most likely freezes. If it is humid enough up there, the ice crystal will not be able to sublimate (turn back into vapor) and may hang out for a long time. If the air is stable, these newly formed clouds will slowly dissipate as they act like a gas to fill the space they are in. If the air is unstable, they can be twisted into oblivion rather quickly. They don't 'fall to the earth' any more than normal clouds do.
Wingtip or propeller vortices (little tiny tornadoes) can cause these formations but for a different reason. This is usually in lower air levels where the particles already exist but the humidity is not quite high enough for them to attract condensate. The wing or propeller tip comes along and spins the air, the center of the vortex has a much lower pressure than the surrounding air and drops in temperature rapidly. Now we have conditions where clouds can form. Jet fuel might cause a trail until it evaporates which it usually does before reaching the ground. Small airplanes generally don't use jet fuel and don't have any means of dumping it even if they do. Large jets do not regularly dump fuel except in the case of emergencies. If they need to make an emergency or precautionary landing, they will dump fuel either to lose weight so they don't run off the end of the runway or so that any fire danger will be reduced. They try to do this at high enough altitudes that the fuel doesn't reach the ground since it is a known carcinogen. Of course, there are places where they do fly over and spray for insects on a pretty regular basis. This is probably what they are doing when you smell stuff in your house. Probably nothing you can do about that and hopefully, you don't die of cancer 20 years from now. Then, maybe I am wrong and they are actually spraying chemicals for some nefarious purpose. I can think of several better and more clandestine ways to introduce chemicals into your system. They could put it in your drinking water next to the fluoride, in your milk next to the vitamin D or in your bread next to the calcium. Hell, they could have put it in the Apple Jacks I ate this morning right next to the 'pyrodoxine hydrochloride' which they claim is vitamin B6 but who knows? P.S. I forgot to get to the point ... before you start to get scared about something, do a little research to find out if it is worth being scared of. I believe most fear is caused by ignorance. [Edited 3/29/09 7:21am] Look at me, Baby! What can I say? Ain't no other fish in the sea! | |
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi...R.2977.IH:
Of pertinent information related to the bill: (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons; (ii) chemtrails; (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems; (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons; (v) laser weapons systems; (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons. (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space. [Edited 3/29/09 7:23am] | |
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benni said: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:
What has this to do with anything? This is talking about space-based weapons ... 60km above the surface of the Earth or higher. Look at me, Baby! What can I say? Ain't no other fish in the sea! | |
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mritchey said: benni said: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:
What has this to do with anything? This is talking about space-based weapons ... 60km above the surface of the Earth or higher. How about we post the whole bill? 107th CONGRESS
1st Session H. R. 2977 To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES October 2, 2001 Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned ----- A BILL To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'. SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE. Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'. SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE. The President shall-- (1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and (2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components. SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS. The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons. SEC. 5. REPORT. The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on-- (1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and (2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4. SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES. Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for-- (1) space exploration; (2) space research and development; (3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or (4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems. SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS. In this Act: (1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space. (2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following: (i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by-- (I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object; (II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object; (III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or (IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means. (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)-- (I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B); (II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or (III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person. (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as-- (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons; (ii) chemtrails; (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems; (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons; (v) laser weapons systems; (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons. (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space. | |
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NouveauDance said: Dayclear said: But what you gonna do? We've all gotta breathe.
That's what they WANT you to think. Stop breathing and xperience the Everlasting Now. That's hilarious! | |
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