NouveauDance said: TyphoonTip said: I remember having the same issue with Eye Hate U's sudden end before going into a segue. ...Back then it was mix tapes! I remember mixtapes well, I still do them only now it's mp3 compilations for people's ipods I like the tracks running together, but the Boom/Morning After or C&C cut is really abrupt. Reminds me of Girls & Boys into Life Can Be So Nice. which is only the BEST moment in all of music it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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stanleylieber said: which is only the BEST moment in all of music No argument there. | |
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NouveauDance said: stanleylieber said: which is only the BEST moment in all of music No argument there. strange but true, if only sex could be that good damn, i am taking this all to seriously, now i listening to parade... those were the days, and the first notes of April begin, the nostalgia rushes over me like a tsunami wave If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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LOTUSFLOW3R continues to grow on me. Even songs like the closing track are beginning to make sense.
Colonized Mind in particular sounds better every time. I love the trance-like quality in his vocals, and that guitar just screams melancholic anguish throughout. The climax is brilliant too. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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purplecam said: As I'm listening to Lotusflow3r right now, I realizing that music on here sounds mature, if that makes any sense. There is just something about this CD that just makes it sounds like its "Grown Folks" music. I feel strange writing that . Maybe it's the guitar that just does it or me turning 30, I don't know but this is just a new thing I've found with this CD as I'm playing it again and it's making the experience that much more satisfying.
Same thing I thought listening to 'U're Gonna C Me' all the way to work over and over. Love it. But that's another album . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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purplecam said: As I'm listening to Lotusflow3r right now, I realizing that music on here sounds mature, if that makes any sense. There is just something about this CD that just makes it sounds like its "Grown Folks" music. I feel strange writing that . Maybe it's the guitar that just does it or me turning 30, I don't know but this is just a new thing I've found with this CD as I'm playing it again and it's making the experience that much more satisfying.
I'm so proud of you! Late bloomer! but my baby is a man now! just teasing [Edited 3/31/09 21:56pm] | |
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Ugot2shakesumthin said: purplecam said: As I'm listening to Lotusflow3r right now, I realizing that music on here sounds mature, if that makes any sense. There is just something about this CD that just makes it sounds like its "Grown Folks" music. I feel strange writing that . Maybe it's the guitar that just does it or me turning 30, I don't know but this is just a new thing I've found with this CD as I'm playing it again and it's making the experience that much more satisfying.
I'm so proud of you! Late bloomer! but my baby is a man now! just teasing [Edited 3/31/09 21:56pm] U crazy I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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SUPRMAN said: purplecam said: As I'm listening to Lotusflow3r right now, I realizing that music on here sounds mature, if that makes any sense. There is just something about this CD that just makes it sounds like its "Grown Folks" music. I feel strange writing that . Maybe it's the guitar that just does it or me turning 30, I don't know but this is just a new thing I've found with this CD as I'm playing it again and it's making the experience that much more satisfying.
Same thing I thought listening to 'U're Gonna C Me' all the way to work over and over. Love it. But that's another album . . The verses are far too stuttery in this version. The melody doesn't really get a chance to flow. The song only just survives it. Another song of lesser quality wouldn't have. Thankfully we have the original. | |
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Well, all I can say is that I'm really digging the Lotus. In the end, U can only play it again and again, it flows like water. | |
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I THINK LOTUSFLOW3R SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON ITS OWN...ITS GROWING ON ME AND OTHERS BIG TIME...ITS THE GUITAR ALBUM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR IMO....HAVENT ENJOYED A PRINCE ALBUM MORE IN YEARS AND YEARS... | |
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TyphoonTip said: SUPRMAN said: Same thing I thought listening to 'U're Gonna C Me' all the way to work over and over. Love it. But that's another album . . The verses are far too stuttery in this version. The melody doesn't really get a chance to flow. The song only just survives it. Another song of lesser quality wouldn't have. Thankfully we have the original. We're getting off album here...but I'll take the new MPLSound version over the piano demo all day every day. | |
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blackbob said: I THINK LOTUSFLOW3R SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON ITS OWN...ITS GROWING ON ME AND OTHERS BIG TIME...ITS THE GUITAR ALBUM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR IMO....HAVENT ENJOYED A PRINCE ALBUM MORE IN YEARS AND YEARS...
In the beginning I thought the same thing. But as I've continued to listen to the whole set and come to fully appreciate how strong ALL THREE albums are, I love it as part of this collection now. IMO, "LotusFlow3r" (the full 31-track project) is the strongest outpouring of music we've ever gotten from Prince at one time in his entire career. There's not a single song I consider obvious filler across the whole thing -- and only two that I rate less than "very good" ("Another Like Me" and "Immersion"...all of the LotusFlow3r" album is outstanding). This is an historic release that will grow and grow in stature over the years. | |
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My thoughts...
“Boom” is a decent track. Although, the version I have cuts off at 3:19 into the song (word is it was a glitch in the upload which they’re supposed to fix) 6/10 “The Morning After” sounds like a throwaway track he wrote while brushing his teeth one morning. 4/10 “4Ever”, while not his best mid-tempo production isn’t bad and even though it’s full of cliches…I can dig it. 7/10 “Colonized Mind” : I’ve been listening to this one for a couple of months now…and I STILL can’t get into it. 2/10 “Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful” : Wha? I mean…ya got the horns back in this one, Prince…but…a funky horn line does not make a good song. 3/10 “Love Like Jazz” : zzzzz. Are you trying to put me to sleep with this one? 2/10 “77 Beverly Park” It’s an interesting instrumental. And I’ve always dug his instrumental tracks. Still…it’s nothing I haven’t heard from him before. 6/10 “Wall Of Berlin” What? Seriously. 2/10 “$” I…I…I just don’t know. Here is where you start wondering, “Is this the best ya got?” 2/10 “Dreamer” The opening sounds like he’s channeling Hendrix in a Voodo Chile kinda way…and then it kinda trails off into mediocrity. 5/10 “Back To The Lotus” The most experimental cut. A lot of good heavy guitar work. But, again…nothing groundbreaking. 4/10 | |
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livewire said: TyphoonTip said: The verses are far too stuttery in this version. The melody doesn't really get a chance to flow. The song only just survives it. Another song of lesser quality wouldn't have. Thankfully we have the original. We're getting off album here...but I'll take the new MPLSound version over the piano demo all day every day. Me too. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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digitalpharaoh said: My thoughts...
“Boom” is a decent track. Although, the version I have cuts off at 3:19 into the song (word is it was a glitch in the upload which they’re supposed to fix) 6/10 “The Morning After” sounds like a throwaway track he wrote while brushing his teeth one morning. 4/10 “4Ever”, while not his best mid-tempo production isn’t bad and even though it’s full of cliches…I can dig it. 7/10 “Colonized Mind” : I’ve been listening to this one for a couple of months now…and I STILL can’t get into it. 2/10 “Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful” : Wha? I mean…ya got the horns back in this one, Prince…but…a funky horn line does not make a good song. 3/10 “Love Like Jazz” : zzzzz. Are you trying to put me to sleep with this one? 2/10 “77 Beverly Park” It’s an interesting instrumental. And I’ve always dug his instrumental tracks. Still…it’s nothing I haven’t heard from him before. 6/10 “Wall Of Berlin” What? Seriously. 2/10 “$” I…I…I just don’t know. Here is where you start wondering, “Is this the best ya got?” 2/10 “Dreamer” The opening sounds like he’s channeling Hendrix in a Voodo Chile kinda way…and then it kinda trails off into mediocrity. 5/10 “Back To The Lotus” The most experimental cut. A lot of good heavy guitar work. But, again…nothing groundbreaking. 4/10 Are these your first impressions? (minus colonized) P's best work takes time to digest. takes a while to 'get it'. Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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After one full trip through Lotusflow3r, let me give this 4 out of 5 stars. I'm am really digging this record. I thought that Planet Earth would be his final good album, so I'm very pleasantly surprised with this one. The 1st 3 tracks are superb, in my opinion. I absolutely love the verses in "Boom", but wish that he'd done more with a chorus. The segue into "Crimson and Clover" was a little rough, but I'll live with it. "4ever" sounds really out of place on this album, and I'm not liking it too much. I'd never given "Colonized Mind" or "Wall of Berlin" many listens when they first leaked, but I am truly enjoying them now, and I really like "$" for some reason. It's nothing spectacular, but man, it's grown on me quickly. And of course, "Dreamer" is quite the six-string workout. Overall, very well done, Prince. I wish MPLsound was quite as satisfying for me. | |
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mypancakeplaces said: Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful is more funky than that thing from a few years ago. Horns and a more punch bass line.
Am I the only one who loves this song? MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: mypancakeplaces said: Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful is more funky than that thing from a few years ago. Horns and a more punch bass line.
Am I the only one who loves this song? Nope. I woke up to that song in my head. Hi Miguel! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: Am I the only one who loves this song? Nope. I woke up to that song in my head. Hi Miguel! Was up, was up? Thank you!! I am not alone!!!! MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: purplecam said: Nope. I woke up to that song in my head. Hi Miguel! Was up, was up? Thank you!! I am not alone!!!! No doubt man! [Edited 4/1/09 8:48am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: Was up, was up? Thank you!! I am not alone!!!! No doubt man! [Edited 4/1/09 8:48am] I didn't think I was gonna like this song but I do...I really like it! "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: purplecam said: No doubt man! [Edited 4/1/09 8:48am] I didn't think I was gonna like this song but I do...I really like it! Another person on board. Thanks!!!!! I just think it's funky and fun. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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For me LotusFlow3r is a very good album but falls short of a great album it so nearly could have been (I waited until I had listened to it maybe 30 times before saying that as I wanted to see if everything on it would grow on me).
Maybe that is to do with expectations but I was thinking we were finally getting the 100% genuine all out Rock album that many (though not all) fans have been asking for (with MPLSound catering for the funk). Frankly there are two tracks I can live without on the album (although I like them well enough for b-sides)...77 Beverley Park and Love Like Jazz. If they could have been replaced with a couple of uptempo pop-rockers like Fury, or Guitar or Chaos & Disorder then this album would have been awesome. As it stands my playlist drops the two aforementioned songs and replaces them with "Dance 4 Me" and "Here" with the sequencing as follows: From The Lotus Boom Crimson & Clover The Morning After 4Ever Colonized Mind Feel Better, Fell Good, Feel Wonderful Dance 4 Me Wall Of Berlin $ Here Dreamer Back To The Lotus and this works VERY nicely thank you very much [Edited 4/1/09 11:42am] 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. | |
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I really enjoyed this record.
im just having trouble of conceiving.....what is it ABOUT!? Politics? I think thats where I'm getting. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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PurpleKnight said: LOTUSFLOW3R continues to grow on me. Even songs like the closing track are beginning to make sense.
Colonized Mind in particular sounds better every time. I love the trance-like quality in his vocals, and that guitar just screams melancholic anguish throughout. The climax is brilliant too. I agree, Colonized Mind has been a definite grower for me. When it first leaked I was kinda... meh. Within the context of the album I liked it better, but it still didn't wow me. Now it's one of my favorite tracks. * * *
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NoVideo said: PurpleKnight said: LOTUSFLOW3R continues to grow on me. Even songs like the closing track are beginning to make sense.
Colonized Mind in particular sounds better every time. I love the trance-like quality in his vocals, and that guitar just screams melancholic anguish throughout. The climax is brilliant too. I agree, Colonized Mind has been a definite grower for me. When it first leaked I was kinda... meh. Within the context of the album I liked it better, but it still didn't wow me. Now it's one of my favorite tracks. not me, i liked colonized from the get go...just has that feel to it...and the i really like the lyrics...probably cuz i believe em. Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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stanleylieber said: johnny2000 said: Feel better Feel Good – (Not a huge fan of the song, but it’s ‘ok’ …. But how cool would it have been if he had bothered to write and play a super cool bass line for it, instead of just playing a non-descript keyboard bass ….(with an ‘Irresistible Bitch’ or ‘Lets Work’ style bass going on it would have taken off musically) for my money the album version is far superior to the demo. the horns help. it approaches the '93 live sound. needs a rosie gaines guest vocal to be complete. this is the kind of almost-rap that would have sounded really good in '91. [Edited 3/31/09 18:44pm] Ok, that's what's different. I remember hearing the "Feel Better,Feel Good..." demo over a year ago and not being really thrilled. But on the album it's ok. Not something I'd listen to over and over, but I wouldn't jump for the skip button. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: stanleylieber said: for my money the album version is far superior to the demo. the horns help. it approaches the '93 live sound. needs a rosie gaines guest vocal to be complete. this is the kind of almost-rap that would have sounded really good in '91. [Edited 3/31/09 18:44pm] Ok, that's what's different. I remember hearing the "Feel Better,Feel Good..." demo over a year ago and not being really thrilled. But on the album it's ok. Not something I'd listen to over and over, but I wouldn't jump for the skip button. i kind of wish i had submitted the rosie request to them back when they were asking what it needed. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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thepope2the9s said: digitalpharaoh said: My thoughts...
“Boom” is a decent track. Although, the version I have cuts off at 3:19 into the song (word is it was a glitch in the upload which they’re supposed to fix) 6/10 “The Morning After” sounds like a throwaway track he wrote while brushing his teeth one morning. 4/10 “4Ever”, while not his best mid-tempo production isn’t bad and even though it’s full of cliches…I can dig it. 7/10 “Colonized Mind” : I’ve been listening to this one for a couple of months now…and I STILL can’t get into it. 2/10 “Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful” : Wha? I mean…ya got the horns back in this one, Prince…but…a funky horn line does not make a good song. 3/10 “Love Like Jazz” : zzzzz. Are you trying to put me to sleep with this one? 2/10 “77 Beverly Park” It’s an interesting instrumental. And I’ve always dug his instrumental tracks. Still…it’s nothing I haven’t heard from him before. 6/10 “Wall Of Berlin” What? Seriously. 2/10 “$” I…I…I just don’t know. Here is where you start wondering, “Is this the best ya got?” 2/10 “Dreamer” The opening sounds like he’s channeling Hendrix in a Voodo Chile kinda way…and then it kinda trails off into mediocrity. 5/10 “Back To The Lotus” The most experimental cut. A lot of good heavy guitar work. But, again…nothing groundbreaking. 4/10 Are these your first impressions? (minus colonized) P's best work takes time to digest. takes a while to 'get it'. Yes and no. I wrote it on the first listen...but...after repeated listens, the only ones that really grab me a little are Boom & Dreamer. I wasn't expecting much, though. | |
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BOOM and dreamer are KILLER!!!! | |
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