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Reply #300 posted 03/26/09 8:34am

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hmmm, one or two corny spots though as I'm listening furter lol

but it definitely is several steps up from Planet Earth IMO
If you will, so will I
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Reply #301 posted 03/26/09 8:51am

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For me it's a typical Prince album. I like some tracks, other tracks will be on skip (which is typical of most music these days) I will see what songs pull me be back once the "newness" wears off. It's really my only meter now a days with P. As an old crusty fan confused at this point in my life, I take his releases now as something I will continue to support but my days of even caring if he releases another "Sign O Times" is long gone. But thats more about me than really his music though...

edit: still claw and scratch to see him live though, because there is no other on stage..

Anywho....
~MS

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Reply #302 posted 03/26/09 8:57am

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Vendetta1 said:

vinx98 said:


because this is about the best you could get from Prince and if you hate this, you probably wont like anything else he does.
In.your.opinion.

my opinion is always right and your opinion is always wrong. thats just the way the world works.
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Reply #303 posted 03/26/09 8:57am

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Wow $ is a grower!! Sounds like it could have fitted on Diamonds & Pearls inbetween Strollin and willing and able
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #304 posted 03/26/09 8:58am

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Alexandernvrmind said:

Wall said:

Another boring, plodding clunker from Prince.

Layered, redundant choruses, lyrics as deft as a fourteen year old honours student and embarrassing balladry. Feel Good, Feel Better is a cycling bore with not an iota of invention or musical worth. 77 Beverly Park is laughably bad and Love Like Jazz is easy listening slop, seemingly dripping over here from his latest proteges colossal failure of a record. 4Ever should be drawn and quartered, Boom is noodling gone ary, The Morning After has a fine enough melody but it's over produced, plastic and pulled down by the lyrics. Colonized Mind is a by the numbers adult contemporary rock song with inane lyrics outdone only perhaps by Wall of Berlin.

The only song worth salvaging from the mediocre heap is 'Dreamer.' It definitely owes more than a nod to Hendrix, but no matter, it's a fantastic rocker and arguably the best job he's done at putting a rock song to record. $ has it's moments but struggles to keep above the filler category. Would have made a good b-side. Had the rest of the album had the same verve as Dreamer, maybe it would end up being memorable for something beyond it's jejune lyrics and lifeless music. The intro and outro tracks may have worked well as bookends if the rest of record if it wasn't shelving a lexicon of irrelevant pop.

Grade: C-


Do you still listen to Prince? What was his last great album IYO. Just from reading your posts and comments I would have thought you would have stopped being a Prince fan long ago. I mean seriously they are so negative. I mean I can be very critical of him also but the difference is I'm still a fan and even though I'm critical of him you can read that in my comments.

Are you a fan? Are you a former fan ... that feels bitter because he made such an impact on you in the 80s and his material from 1990 on just doesn't match? I mean what happened other than him sucking so much now?(again IYO) Why on earth if he is so God awful do you go out of your way to let people know how you feel when its clear you have now moved beyond anything that he is doing now?

Of course your entitled to an opinion.... I just don't know why your toturing yourself the way you are. I mean seriously do you read what you write?

Read the banner at top it says Prince.org - Online fan community. You don't come off as a Prince fan at all though

Not trying to be negative either... actually just an observation
[Edited 3/26/09 6:17am]


of course he's a fan!! he shelled out the 77USD to get the records right???
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Reply #305 posted 03/26/09 9:10am

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You have to be a fan to be on the org...and shell out 77bucks.

It's tough love, I kinda see WALL & Bart as disapointed parents.

"you wearing that! are you some kinda of prostitute!?"

"Why you wasting your time with this looser"

"I thought i raised you better than that"

"You are the biggest mistake i ever made!"
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Reply #306 posted 03/26/09 9:21am

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I am L O V I N G this album! Best thing since Rainbow Children, after the last two I was losing faith a bit but I knew when I heard the leaked stuff around xmas it was going to be awesome. Lots of elements of prince old records but there IS a freshness to it! According to the credits Prince plays drums on "Feel Good, Feel Better".... As for Sonny T and Mike B, It's great to have them back smile

PRINCE IS BACK!!!!!
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #307 posted 03/26/09 9:22am

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Woohoo, $ is a fucking classic Prince song. See Prince, knew you could do it. That's the kind of complex verses I am talking about. That's right up there with all the 80s stuff. The other songs are wonderful to ok, but this is what all the songs should have been.

But he is lying out his ass when he says he doesn't like money..lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #308 posted 03/26/09 9:22am

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Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #309 posted 03/26/09 9:31am

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BSK3478 said:

tricky99 said:

We would expect no less from Wall then a negative review. Along with Bart, Dansa and some others the glass is always 2/3 empty. Why u folks even bother is so perplexing to me. Are u guys as sad in real life as u are on this site?

even though you're not in agreement with mine or any other review you find that isn't in tandem with your opinion, at least we're saying exactly why we don't like it instead of stooping to the level of "lol it sux because it i say it sux i haven't even herd it lololololololol". that, and we've all actually listened to the albums and actually, y'know, gave them a chance to see if there's anything on there that might, in fact, change our views a little. you should be happy to hear that shit, not wagging your finger like "no, you're SUPPOSED to like it! shame on you!"

i may like the older stuff. you may like the old as well as the new. different strokes. deal. all that said, i've gotta ask you these questions:

--is it a rule here that in order to be considered as a fan, you must like a certain amount or percentage (of course, it has to be above 50% or otherwise...HA!) of prince's material?

I don't believe u like over 50% of the music. Spend much more time dissing the music opposed to praising it. Have u had your plus sign today?

--if you aren't a fan of a lot of prince's catalogue but you still in fact do dig the guy, then you should just throw in the towel?

Yes, u do an artist no favors by continually demeaning their work..move on
--lastly, if one considers themselves a hardcore fan then along with loving everything the brotha has done should it also be one's duty to admonish those who don't like all the things that they do?

No ones duty. I do it as a counter weight to the smirky hate. And no-one has to love everything he does.But I don't get my rocks off be-littling him like some folks do. They seem to take pleasure in sticking the knife in. i would like for you to answer these questions honestly, please.
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Reply #310 posted 03/26/09 9:31am

Putmarroussia

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Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.


No it's not. Voodoo chile all over but Prince's way. Love it. A killer tune.
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Reply #311 posted 03/26/09 9:38am

CarrieLee

Putmarroussia said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.


No it's not. Voodoo chile all over but Prince's way. Love it. A killer tune.



Love love love it! love2
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Reply #312 posted 03/26/09 9:39am

BSK3478

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--is it a rule here that in order to be considered as a fan, you must like a certain amount or percentage (of course, it has to be above 50% or otherwise...HA!) of prince's material?

I don't believe u like over 50% of the music. Spend much more time dissing the music opposed to praising it. Have u had your plus sign today?

--if you aren't a fan of a lot of prince's catalogue but you still in fact do dig the guy, then you should just throw in the towel?

Yes, u do an artist no favors by continually demeaning their work..move on
--lastly, if one considers themselves a hardcore fan then along with loving everything the brotha has done should it also be one's duty to admonish those who don't like all the things that they do?

No ones duty. I do it as a counter weight to the smirky hate. And no-one has to love everything he does.But I don't get my rocks off be-littling him like some folks do. They seem to take pleasure in sticking the knife in. i would like for you to answer these questions honestly, please.
[/quote]
1) your reading comprehension isn't the greatest in the world. lol i'd asked you to answer 3 simple questions, not 1/4 answer shit and just admonish people instead. of course, admonishment's much easier amirite?

2) why worry if someone doesn't like the same songs/era that you do? by following others around, you're just as bad as those who you claim to counterweight. not pretty, and you're doing the fanbase a worse service than if you were to just simply smile and nod or frown and shake or whatever else.
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Reply #313 posted 03/26/09 9:41am

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NeptuneHQ said:

From the Lotus. . . Hmm, ok. Let's start now.
Boom That's an ok song
The Morning After Meh! No way man!
4EVER This is so boring!
Colonized Mind That's one of the highlights. Very nice song
Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful C'mon! U can do better.
Love Like Jazz boring
77 Beverly Park First part cool, second part very weak
Wall of Berlin Tribute to Jimmy Hendrix? No man!
$ Unecessary
Dreamer Even though this is another Jimmy Hendrix tribute and sort of a copy of "witness 4 the prosecution" it's a good song.
. . . Back to the Lotus just an outro

Overall: Boom, Colonized Mind and Dreamer are three very nice songs. The rest is crap and unimportant bla bla...

After a very weak Planet Earth, and a very weak 3121 he released 3 new cd's with 31 songs. I do like 5 songs out of them all. That's a bad score. I am a Prince fan since 1984. But I guess this strange relationship has come to an end.

Maybe one day he will release a remastered version of the Camille/Dream Factory outtakes. Those songs are all far better than this Music for Music cover lovers.

Welcome 2 the dawn!
[Edited 3/26/09 3:37am]


Don't let the door hit you where the dog should've bit ya! wink
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #314 posted 03/26/09 9:44am

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purplecam said:

NeptuneHQ said:

From the Lotus. . . Hmm, ok. Let's start now.
Boom That's an ok song
The Morning After Meh! No way man!
4EVER This is so boring!
Colonized Mind That's one of the highlights. Very nice song
Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful C'mon! U can do better.
Love Like Jazz boring
77 Beverly Park First part cool, second part very weak
Wall of Berlin Tribute to Jimmy Hendrix? No man!
$ Unecessary
Dreamer Even though this is another Jimmy Hendrix tribute and sort of a copy of "witness 4 the prosecution" it's a good song.
. . . Back to the Lotus just an outro

Overall: Boom, Colonized Mind and Dreamer are three very nice songs. The rest is crap and unimportant bla bla...

After a very weak Planet Earth, and a very weak 3121 he released 3 new cd's with 31 songs. I do like 5 songs out of them all. That's a bad score. I am a Prince fan since 1984. But I guess this strange relationship has come to an end.

Maybe one day he will release a remastered version of the Camille/Dream Factory outtakes. Those songs are all far better than this Music for Music cover lovers.

Welcome 2 the dawn!
[Edited 3/26/09 3:37am]


Don't let the door hit you where the dog should've bit ya! wink


Are you really aged 30 or 12 ? confused

That post looks like something my kid nephew would have written.
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Reply #315 posted 03/26/09 9:50am

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Gav said:

purplecam said:



Don't let the door hit you where the dog should've bit ya! wink


Are you really aged 30 or 12 ? confused

That post looks like something my kid nephew would have written.


i agree with purple cam!

and age aint nothing but a number "gav". we aint all boring.
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Reply #316 posted 03/26/09 10:06am

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vinx98 said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



Do you still listen to Prince? What was his last great album IYO. Just from reading your posts and comments I would have thought you would have stopped being a Prince fan long ago. I mean seriously they are so negative. I mean I can be very critical of him also but the difference is I'm still a fan and even though I'm critical of him you can read that in my comments.

Are you a fan? Are you a former fan ... that feels bitter because he made such an impact on you in the 80s and his material from 1990 on just doesn't match? I mean what happened other than him sucking so much now?(again IYO) Why on earth if he is so God awful do you go out of your way to let people know how you feel when its clear you have now moved beyond anything that he is doing now?

Of course your entitled to an opinion.... I just don't know why your toturing yourself the way you are. I mean seriously do you read what you write?

Read the banner at top it says Prince.org - Online fan community. You don't come off as a Prince fan at all though

Not trying to be negative either... actually just an observation
[Edited 3/26/09 6:17am]


of course he's a fan!! he shelled out the 77USD to get the records right???


Sounds like he may have used to be a fan... if you read him he certainly doesn't sound like a current fan
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Reply #317 posted 03/26/09 10:08am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.


yes it does borrow liberally but he sings better than Hendrix... at least he did it well

He doesn't always do James Brown well which is all over both discs as well
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Reply #318 posted 03/26/09 10:09am

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errant said:

OH MY GOD! DREAMER!!!!! YES YES YES!!! IT'S THE MOTHAFUCKIN' SHIT!!!! THANK YOU JESUS! headbang


Kicked my ass this morning.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #319 posted 03/26/09 10:09am

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purplecam said:

NeptuneHQ said:

From the Lotus. . . Hmm, ok. Let's start now.
Boom That's an ok song
The Morning After Meh! No way man!
4EVER This is so boring!
Colonized Mind That's one of the highlights. Very nice song
Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful C'mon! U can do better.
Love Like Jazz boring
77 Beverly Park First part cool, second part very weak
Wall of Berlin Tribute to Jimmy Hendrix? No man!
$ Unecessary
Dreamer Even though this is another Jimmy Hendrix tribute and sort of a copy of "witness 4 the prosecution" it's a good song.
. . . Back to the Lotus just an outro

Overall: Boom, Colonized Mind and Dreamer are three very nice songs. The rest is crap and unimportant bla bla...

After a very weak Planet Earth, and a very weak 3121 he released 3 new cd's with 31 songs. I do like 5 songs out of them all. That's a bad score. I am a Prince fan since 1984. But I guess this strange relationship has come to an end.

Maybe one day he will release a remastered version of the Camille/Dream Factory outtakes. Those songs are all far better than this Music for Music cover lovers.

Welcome 2 the dawn!
[Edited 3/26/09 3:37am]


Don't let the door hit you where the dog should've bit ya! wink


let go of the Dream Factory stuff already... hes moved on... so should others
Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #320 posted 03/26/09 11:00am

shanti0608

superspaceboy said:

errant said:

OH MY GOD! DREAMER!!!!! YES YES YES!!! IT'S THE MOTHAFUCKIN' SHIT!!!! THANK YOU JESUS! headbang


Kicked my ass this morning.


YES! cool
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Reply #321 posted 03/26/09 11:44am

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BSK3478 said:

tricky99 said:

--is it a rule here that in order to be considered as a fan, you must like a certain amount or percentage (of course, it has to be above 50% or otherwise...HA!) of prince's material?

I don't believe u like over 50% of the music. Spend much more time dissing the music opposed to praising it. Have u had your plus sign today?

--if you aren't a fan of a lot of prince's catalogue but you still in fact do dig the guy, then you should just throw in the towel?

Yes, u do an artist no favors by continually demeaning their work..move on
--lastly, if one considers themselves a hardcore fan then along with loving everything the brotha has done should it also be one's duty to admonish those who don't like all the things that they do?

No ones duty. I do it as a counter weight to the smirky hate. And no-one has to love everything he does.But I don't get my rocks off be-littling him like some folks do. They seem to take pleasure in sticking the knife in. i would like for you to answer these questions honestly, please.

1) your reading comprehension isn't the greatest in the world. lol i'd asked you to answer 3 simple questions, not 1/4 answer shit and just admonish people instead. of course, admonishment's much easier amirite?

2) why worry if someone doesn't like the same songs/era that you do? by following others around, you're just as bad as those who you claim to counterweight. not pretty, and you're doing the fanbase a worse service than if you were to just simply smile and nod or frown and shake or whatever else.[/quote]

No I just peeped your game. If u hang around long enough people start to make distinct impressions by their words and deeds. And your word over time has lead me to feel u are one of those fans that fell of the purple band wagon eons ago but instead of moving on u just come to hate on the latest prince project. U being an artist yourself I would think u would know that negative critique on the same subject over and over again becomes suspect.

We get it. U are not feeling anything past 1980. That's some stunted fandom. At this point why u even need to comment on Prince is beyond me. I mean hey prove me wrong.
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Reply #322 posted 03/26/09 12:04pm

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tricky99 said:

BSK3478 said:


1) your reading comprehension isn't the greatest in the world. lol i'd asked you to answer 3 simple questions, not 1/4 answer shit and just admonish people instead. of course, admonishment's much easier amirite?

2) why worry if someone doesn't like the same songs/era that you do? by following others around, you're just as bad as those who you claim to counterweight. not pretty, and you're doing the fanbase a worse service than if you were to just simply smile and nod or frown and shake or whatever else.


No I just peeped your game. If u hang around long enough people start to make distinct impressions by their words and deeds. And your word over time has lead me to feel u are one of those fans that fell of the purple band wagon eons ago but instead of moving on u just come to hate on the latest prince project. U being an artist yourself I would think u would know that negative critique on the same subject over and over again becomes suspect.

We get it. U are not feeling anything past 1980. That's some stunted fandom. At this point why u even need to comment on Prince is beyond me. I mean hey prove me wrong.


I agree with post and pretty much asked the same question of Wall who I have never once seen write anything remotely positive regarding Prince or for that matter his music. Heck I understand being critical (because I certainly can be of Prince) but you still know I'm a fan of the dude. I don't think that anyone that reads me and sees me absolutely blast Planet Earth for example would think after reading me that I don't like Prince or his music.

Some of the stuff I read hear I scratch my head and ask why are these people posting on a Prince baord since they so clearly dislike him personally and musically so much

Its quite strange actually
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Reply #323 posted 03/26/09 12:10pm

BSK3478

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At this point why u even need to comment on Prince is beyond me. I mean hey prove me wrong.

fandom isn't about "show n'prove" bullshit. it never was. nobody has to jump through hoops, you merely have to like whatcha like, and interact with others who do too. no matter which variant you and another person like, ya'll are in the same boat regardless.
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Reply #324 posted 03/26/09 12:14pm

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From the lotus kind of reminds me of the outro of Dolphin from the undertaker home video

ok still listening..
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Reply #325 posted 03/26/09 12:20pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.

i think thats the point, he even used specific effects to get his voice to sound like hendrix - its like hendrix rose from the grave and took over prince's body for one last explosion of raw funk rock groove bitching sound.
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Reply #326 posted 03/26/09 12:27pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:

tricky99 said:



No I just peeped your game. If u hang around long enough people start to make distinct impressions by their words and deeds. And your word over time has lead me to feel u are one of those fans that fell of the purple band wagon eons ago but instead of moving on u just come to hate on the latest prince project. U being an artist yourself I would think u would know that negative critique on the same subject over and over again becomes suspect.

We get it. U are not feeling anything past 1980. That's some stunted fandom. At this point why u even need to comment on Prince is beyond me. I mean hey prove me wrong.


I agree with post and pretty much asked the same question of Wall who I have never once seen write anything remotely positive regarding Prince or for that matter his music. Heck I understand being critical (because I certainly can be of Prince) but you still know I'm a fan of the dude. I don't think that anyone that reads me and sees me absolutely blast Planet Earth for example would think after reading me that I don't like Prince or his music.

Some of the stuff I read hear I scratch my head and ask why are these people posting on a Prince baord since they so clearly dislike him personally and musically so much

Its quite strange actually
[Edited 3/26/09 12:09pm]


Cool. I know I don't spend much time downing anything let alone going to a website dedicated to someone just to down them over and over again. After awhile u have to come to the conclusion that they have some personal beef with prince or more likely mental issues. Its just not healthy behavior. Some of its probably not even about prince or the music. they just need something to pour their hate on.
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Reply #327 posted 03/26/09 12:33pm

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BSK3478 said:

tricky99 said:

At this point why u even need to comment on Prince is beyond me. I mean hey prove me wrong.

fandom isn't about "show n'prove" bullshit. it never was. nobody has to jump through hoops, you merely have to like whatcha like, and interact with others who do too. no matter which variant you and another person like, ya'll are in the same boat regardless.


U got some issues chick. All that effort u put into your catoons to shit on prince and bria shows me u want people to look at u. Its a waste of talent. Maybe u once identified with Prince's "rebel pose" but u couldn't grow with him at all. Stunted growth.
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Reply #328 posted 03/26/09 12:53pm

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vinx98 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Dreamer is overrated. Borrows to much from Hendrix.

i think thats the point, he even used specific effects to get his voice to sound like hendrix - its like hendrix rose from the grave and took over prince's body for one last explosion of raw funk rock groove bitching sound.


I thought only Chelsea Rodgers talked to Jimi's ghost. hmmm
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Reply #329 posted 03/26/09 12:55pm

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tricky99 said:

BSK3478 said:


fandom isn't about "show n'prove" bullshit. it never was. nobody has to jump through hoops, you merely have to like whatcha like, and interact with others who do too. no matter which variant you and another person like, ya'll are in the same boat regardless.


U got some issues chick. All that effort u put into your catoons to shit on prince and bria shows me u want people to look at u. Its a waste of talent. Maybe u once identified with Prince's "rebel pose" but u couldn't grow with him at all. Stunted growth.


tricky99 is on a roll! lol

i agree.
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