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PrintablePEJ said: utopia7 said: the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ
   Ugh, it was kinda my fault..... 
Sorry, too much daytime tv.  | |
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NDRU said: To me that attitude works perfectly live, where he does rock the party. But on record it sometimes sounds flat.
Someone recently said to me that Prince's problem is he feels the need to be right. Back when he was releasing his best stuff, the lyrics were highly questionable. And I don't mean cussing, I mean open to being misinterpreted.
So now his music is either fluff or preachy. I prefer the more ambiguous mix, where he screamed about having fun as if his life depended on it. The importance of partying in the face of serious issues, and the expression of honest feelings even if they made us uncomfortable. It's getting harder to know who Prince is nowadays because despite seeming happier, he controls his image more closely. Well observed... Nothing can compare to your lovely face | |
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NuPwrSoul said: worhol said: Great post! Dont you think Prince should go away for a while like Dave Chappelle and Lenny K and live his life for once? Introspective time to figure out who he is and what he really wants. It seems like he has always been playing a character. Now imagine Prince as a grounded, mature, sophisticated man with a youthful innocence and playful sense of humor who can write a love song that will make you cry cause its so damm touching and still play the guitar like a mad man with lyrics of a deep philisophical nature. Riddles of knowledge and vulnerable moments all wrapped up in perfect little package. I do... Utopia7 mentioned this too. When I listen to something like "Green Eyes" by Erykah Badu or even some of Jill Scott's stuff and listen to how they sing about the struggles and triumphs of life--their work connects. Their music become a healing for people who have had similar experiences, who can connect to those emotions. Much of Prince's work these days is too distant, and even his social commentary comes from the perspective of an omniscient narrator/Godvoice that knows what's best for everyone. He sets himself a part in a way that makes him and his art on a pedestal--to be admired but not reached, not touched, not engaged. Agree Nothing can compare to your lovely face | |
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npggirl77 said: annaindiacash said: Most interesting thread I've read in a while! Love this type of Prince discussion and agree that Prince's writing is most interesting when he doesn't have all the answers.
Baby I'm a Star, cream etc all work because Prince knows he's bragging and is laughing at himself.He is almost taking on a character in these songs. There is usually a lot of humour in Prince's writing but I think some of his 'bragging'work, particularly in the 90's, lacked this and was therefore abit dull and predictable. Something I never expected from Prince. I like the fact that Prince's music reflects whatever stage he is at in his life though, and always has, even when he gets it wrong. When an artists' musical career spans 30 years it's inevitable that they will have creative highs and lows. Look at another truly talented artist, Stevie Wonder. Like Prince, he's also had periods of pure musical/writing genius. No one can touch artists like them when they are riding that creative wave but it would be impossible to sustain that level for 30 years. Sometimes they get it wrong but in hindsight you can see they were trying something different to before and you can appreciate that, even if what they did wasn't your favourite period of their work. Prince is slightly older now and as you'd hope seems to be a little more content with life and whilst it is to be expected that some of his earlier innovation may not be as strong (possibly) as it was when he was in his 20's and 30's, it's also clear that he's developed his musicianship. When you see him play live now, especially at the small gigs, it's exciting and inspiring to watch him play for different reasons. He's developed his guitar and piano playing in a way that has come from years of experimenting and stretching his abilities.It's really all about the live music now and no one can touch him when it comes to playing live and I love that about him. Very well said! Enjoyed reading! My thoughts exactly...  |
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NDRU said: Genesia said: People will take issue with what I'm about to say, I'm sure - but I think the braggadocio really started the fall flat around the time he got religious. Not trying ot take issue, but when would you say he got religious? |
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utopia7 said: the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ
 omg how true |
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This is one of my favorite threads ever on here. Good job, Nu. 
I think there is a disconnect with Prince and his fans because of the seemingly Hollywood life he leads now. One good thing, for me at least, is dealing with my own Battered Prince Fan Syndrome. I was famming out big time and the more I saw how he really isn't like us, the easier it was to "let him go". I have no expectations and that's a good thing because now I can be pleasantly surprised. I don't like bragging Prince music, most of that sort is boring to me. The best thing has been that the music spoke for itself these almost 30 years. He didn't have to tell us: we just knew. | |
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NuPwrSoul said: PurpleRain747 said: Think what u may...but Prince was in the music scene far b4 Mr. West or any of those u'v so mentioned. Which is all the more reason why Prince doesn't need to be using the studio tricks popularized last year by Mr. West or any of those I've mentioned. All  can say is that trully feel sorry 4 u...that u can't recognize talent perhaps u fear it or don't understand it.  It's all right don't feel bad! | |
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PurpleRain747 said: NuPwrSoul said: Which is all the more reason why Prince doesn't need to be using the studio tricks popularized last year by Mr. West or any of those I've mentioned. All can say is that trully feel sorry 4 u...that u can't recognize talent perhaps u fear it or don't understand it. It's all right don't feel bad!LOL "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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