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Reply #90 posted 03/23/09 2:42pm

jackblack

Wow this is an awesome thread! I respect all the thoughts ive read through on this subject, very wise bunch we have here. Impressive insight! I hope Prince listens to good advise.
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Reply #91 posted 03/23/09 3:08pm

jackblack

NDRU said:

Genesia said:



I see where you're going. To some extent, he's always been religious - and incorporated religious themes into his work. But where in the 80s it was an amorphous, general Christian vibe...by around 2000 it became very dogmatic and, dare I say, stodgy.


gotcha. And yeah I kind of agree that Lovesexy (and even Let's Go Crazy, apparently) was about making it fun (it practically single-handedly had me rethinking religion/Christianity), and now it's all serious.


Isnt religion supposed to be a serious matter? Everyone has different opinions on that subject. I think religion has always been a serious matter to Prince but he went back and forth with it. Now he seems to stand on more solid ground. So why Turn me loose,TNBALM and CBox?? Arrogant sexual promiscuous primal rantings, then again is he really on serious religious ground?

He definately needs to get away from everything, go someplace far away for a long time and meditate on his life and his future.
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Reply #92 posted 03/23/09 3:09pm

NDRU

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jackblack said:

NDRU said:



gotcha. And yeah I kind of agree that Lovesexy (and even Let's Go Crazy, apparently) was about making it fun (it practically single-handedly had me rethinking religion/Christianity), and now it's all serious.


Isnt religion supposed to be a serious matter? Everyone has different opinions on that subject. I think religion has always been a serious matter to Prince but he went back and forth with it. Now he seems to stand on more solid ground. So why Turn me loose,TNBALM and CBox?? Arrogant sexual promiscuous primal rantings, then again is he really on serious religious ground?

He definately needs to get away from everything, go someplace far away for a long time and meditate on his life and his future.


So is he on solid ground or not?
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Reply #93 posted 03/23/09 3:25pm

utopia7

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NuPwrSoul said:

utopia7 said:





Best Bragging is CLOREEN BACON SKIN !


This brings to my mind the sense that the bragging works best when its done with a healthy sense of humor. Cloreen is a good example, as is Housequake with the "shut up, damn" (and the Camille voice helps give it a mischievous tone, which is one of the reasons I think F.U.N.K. works aside from excellent musicianship).

The songs where he seems to take himself seriously--not so much.


Yep just having fun! last time that fun was seen during ONA sound checks Prince being Prince
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Reply #94 posted 03/23/09 3:31pm

itsshananaok

NuPwrSoul said:

PurpleRain747 said:


Really Prince's new direction is anything but contrived and mt...he has evolved and continued 2 do so...and if u don't c this then y do u continue 2 follow him?
As 4 his lyrics they'r fine...not immature!


I got a box of chocolates that'll rock your socks

is not immature? Not only is that immature, that is corny and embarrassing. Box, rock, socks - that's like Hip Hop Rhyme Writing 101. Jeesh. Worse when it's sung on autotune or with a voc box to emulate something T-Pain and Kanye West started doing LAST YEAR. It's not groundbreaking... it comes off as a pathetic attempt to be hip. And that's a problem with his swag songs of late, they seem desperate to compete with what is burning up the charts/radio these days.

It's like musically (and lyrically thematically) Prince is sweating all the latest trends and fads by emulating them... but then tells us in his songs that we should sweat HIM! It comes off as disingenuous and again, weak sauce.


Weak sauce lol Im holdng out hope for Lotus flower. Colonized mind and Forever have his heart in them.....MPLS sound so far = self absorbed. My Princey that I remember is a loveable sensitive man who sang the song "The one". Players R not allowed in my Prince fantasy land especially not Prince. fight
Cuzzin'... when Spooky say dead, u better say died.
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Reply #95 posted 03/23/09 3:41pm

utopia7

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Genesia said:

IstenSzek said:

so what do people think of "pretty man"? i think it falls somewhere in the
middle.

he's laughing at himself through the creation of a different persona imo
because that's not "prince" that's singing if you ask me.

but it's a good song. i like it a lot. and this type of bragging is just
funny and absolutely ok with me. i don't mind it one bit.


I love Pretty Man - because my sense with that one is that he's commenting on what other people have said about him. No man I know is going to call himself "pretty" unless it's meant tongue-in-cheek. The "don't hate me cuz I'm beautiful" intro is proof of that.

People will take issue with what I'm about to say, I'm sure - but I think the braggadocio really started the fall flat around the time he got religious. Hear me out, please - I'm not saying there's anything wrong with him adopting a faith in which he finds meaning. It's just that his beliefs (at least as he puts them out there) are so doctrinaire that he leaves himself far less room for humor. You simply can't take one thing so seriously - to the point of proselytizing - and then expect people to know automatically when you're cracking on yourself.

Putting that on an album is like writing something in this forum, in a way. Yes, we can hear his voice (which is an advantage). But we can't see his face. We don't know if he's mugging his way through - something we'd be able to see very clearly in a live performance. And lately, it sounds too much like he's trying to convince himself.


I LOVE PRETTY MAN TOO ! cool cuz he was singing about the truth too lol
it reminded me of a Muhammed Ali vibe ( watching old clips) right during a live press conference back in the day after a fight. Meanwhile tying in the grit of James Brown but it's all Prince.

One could imagine Prince all dressed ready to walk out the door,he catches a glimpse doubles back...STOPS and says"Damn you a Pretty man" and struts out the door cool
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Reply #96 posted 03/23/09 4:51pm

wunderlandmine

Thats what I been sayin. A pimp is a pimp you dont need to broadcast it.

A pimp can be a one woman man, like Jay Z. Hot wife, loads of money and talent and always takes care of his family guy.

A pimp can be a single dude that loves every female he sees with no discrimination, brings in the dollars, spends it like water, doesnt take care of noone but himself and never stays in 1 place with 1 skank for a long period of time and never ever will ever be satisfied , period.
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Reply #97 posted 03/23/09 5:16pm

salaciousV

wunderlandmine said:

Thats what I been sayin. A pimp is a pimp you dont need to broadcast it.

A pimp can be a one woman man, like Jay Z. Hot wife, loads of money and talent and always takes care of his family guy.

A pimp can be a single dude that loves every female he sees with no discrimination, brings in the dollars, spends it like water, doesnt take care of noone but himself and never stays in 1 place with 1 skank for a long period of time and never ever will ever be satisfied , period.


Jay Z has side hos. Sorry, its the truth. Celebrity + options = Non faithful PIMP or PIMPTRESS.

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Reply #98 posted 03/23/09 5:26pm

salaciousV

As Jai said in an earlier post: Pride cometh before the fall.

These days it seems Prince's prowess is more important than his music. And thats okay, let him pimp on, but dont stifle the creativity with lackluster music talking about HIMSELF!

The best music was when his little ass was heartbroken or abused or in love! What happened to that music that stirred the masses?

Sorry Prince but you're not popular anymore because your heart isnt in it. When your heart is in it, we are travelling with you, experiencing with you. You are so smart that you can create songs with your damn toes but then we can tell when your salmon claws did the writing and not your heart

Come back to the light Princey, come back to the light! tv
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Reply #99 posted 03/23/09 5:34pm

itsshananaok

salaciousV said:

wunderlandmine said:

Thats what I been sayin. A pimp is a pimp you dont need to broadcast it.

A pimp can be a one woman man, like Jay Z. Hot wife, loads of money and talent and always takes care of his family guy.

A pimp can be a single dude that loves every female he sees with no discrimination, brings in the dollars, spends it like water, doesnt take care of noone but himself and never stays in 1 place with 1 skank for a long period of time and never ever will ever be satisfied , period.


Jay Z has side hos. Sorry, its the truth. Celebrity + options = Non faithful PIMP or PIMPTRESS.

shrug


What, Uh uh Jay Z has side hoes on Beyonce? My girl would not have that and besides how do you know that for sure..... Unless you know his side ho or are his side ho. Eva Longoria and Tony Parker had to sue the gossip mags on a story about him cheating on her with that white girl.....It turned out to be a lie, and they won. You cant just say stuff like that on married people..... thats wrong. Some male celebs can be faithful.
Cuzzin'... when Spooky say dead, u better say died.
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Reply #100 posted 03/23/09 5:38pm

salaciousV

itsshananaok said:

salaciousV said:



Jay Z has side hos. Sorry, its the truth. Celebrity + options = Non faithful PIMP or PIMPTRESS.

shrug


What, Uh uh Jay Z has side hoes on Beyonce? My girl would not have that and besides how do you know that for sure..... Unless you know his side ho or are his side ho. Eva Longoria and Tony Parker had to sue the gossip mags on a story about him cheating on her with that white girl.....It turned out to be a lie, and they won. You cant just say stuff like that on married people..... thats wrong. Some male celebs can be faithful.



Well he aint tonk or boff me but he's doing it to an acquaintance of mine. I would never say friend because I dont dig women that mess with husbands. But yeah, I've seen him pick her up, takes her to a certain hotel, etc.
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Reply #101 posted 03/23/09 5:44pm

salaciousV

And what is that Dr. Phil says? Something about people dont change their behaviour they show you who they are from the start. I'm adding but its something like that.

Very very few faithful celebrities. Its sad, but the price of fame baby! And thats why you got bragging songs like Never Be Another Like Me.

falloff
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Reply #102 posted 03/23/09 7:57pm

jackblack

salaciousV said:

And what is that Dr. Phil says? Something about people dont change their behaviour they show you who they are from the start. I'm adding but its something like that.

Very very few faithful celebrities. Its sad, but the price of fame baby! And thats why you got bragging songs like Never Be Another Like Me.

falloff


Jay Z deserves to be shot and so does your friend!!! Poor Beyonce, when you think you found a great guy who loves only you and then puts a damm ring on your finger only to go out a stick it to any willing ho with no conscience at all behind your back. SUCKS! Im gonna cry... sad
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Reply #103 posted 03/23/09 8:02pm

jackblack

By the way, i hate TBALM and Chocolate box. Two songs written by another cheating dog! bawl broken
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Reply #104 posted 03/23/09 8:06pm

salaciousV

jackblack said:


Jay Z deserves to be shot and so does your friend!!! Poor Beyonce, when you think you found a great guy who loves only you and then puts a damm ring on your finger only to go out a stick it to any willing ho with no conscience at all behind your back. SUCKS! Im gonna cry... sad



Like I said she aint my friend. She's an acquaintance and a ho. biggrin
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Reply #105 posted 03/23/09 8:25pm

salaciousV

jackblack said:

By the way, i hate TBALM and Chocolate box. Two songs written by another cheating dog! bawl broken



Maybe I like bad boys, but I still love this paticular cheating dog. heart pimp!!
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Reply #106 posted 03/23/09 9:01pm

jackblack

salaciousV said:

jackblack said:

By the way, i hate TBALM and Chocolate box. Two songs written by another cheating dog! bawl broken



Maybe I like bad boys, but I still love this paticular cheating dog. heart pimp!!


Yes, but would you marry him.
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Reply #107 posted 03/23/09 9:03pm

salaciousV

jackblack said:

salaciousV said:




Maybe I like bad boys, but I still love this paticular cheating dog. heart pimp!!


Yes, but would you marry him.


OH HELL 2THAFUCKING NO! spit
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Reply #108 posted 03/23/09 9:11pm

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..HEY! in the end..if u got it! BABY flaunt it!!..
..mzsexybaby'A LOVE BIZARRE' lick do things we never do exclaim
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #109 posted 03/23/09 9:13pm

jackblack

Poor Mayte and Mani broken To think that some fans hated the women and still praised him after what he did to them is mind boggling. I wonder if its because of his fans he thinks he can do no wrong.

He lost a child, two failed marriages lawsuits and disgruntled employees, astranged family you would think this message would be heard loud and clear and he would change his ways. Knock knock
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Reply #110 posted 03/23/09 9:18pm

worhol

I cant believe that about Jay Z. What is wrong with this picture! Beyonce is a classy lady why cant he keep it in his pants. wacky
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Reply #111 posted 03/23/09 9:23pm

mzkqueen03

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..yes poor wife#1+2..they were NOT strong enough 2 keep prince...no1 could EVA mess it up 4 me though..i have a bullet-proof soul..
<--AND a bullet-proof CAR!!
..mzsexybaby'playtime is OVA' stirthepot
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #112 posted 03/23/09 9:49pm

salaciousV

worhol said:

I cant believe that about Jay Z. What is wrong with this picture! Beyonce is a classy lady why cant he keep it in his pants. wacky


Appearances can be deceiving. neutral
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Reply #113 posted 03/23/09 10:34pm

Velvet123

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I will have to agree with you. Ever sense he has been playing in celebrity parties, and trying to look like someone else. I knew he wasn't fooling me, because I knew he wasn't the same as before. I miss the old Prince who didn't care about the social spotlight, and you can see that he is hungry for that for some reason.
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Reply #114 posted 03/24/09 2:10am

utopia7

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the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ neutral lol
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Reply #115 posted 03/24/09 2:49am

KeithyT

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utopia7 said:

the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ neutral lol

I was thinking the exact same thing. lol
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #116 posted 03/24/09 8:56am

DesireeNevermi
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utopia7 said:

the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ neutral lol



falloff falloff falloff Aint it always like that? biggrin
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Reply #117 posted 03/24/09 8:59am

DesireeNevermi
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salaciousV said:

jackblack said:


Jay Z deserves to be shot and so does your friend!!! Poor Beyonce, when you think you found a great guy who loves only you and then puts a damm ring on your finger only to go out a stick it to any willing ho with no conscience at all behind your back. SUCKS! Im gonna cry... sad



Like I said she aint my friend. She's an acquaintance and a ho. biggrin



dayum that's some funny shit...gonna use in a script. wink
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Reply #118 posted 03/24/09 10:14am

PEJ

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utopia7 said:

the thread went from civil discussion to TMZ neutral lol




nod
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #119 posted 03/24/09 10:50am

Dayclear

What misfortune left your heart so broken U only say
Words intended 2 belittle or dismay?
What if I say U lie?
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