Why so sad. YOU might think the best track is something else. Do you see?

rwn said:

Rather than get another producer, I'd much prefer him to let someone else choose which tracks make it to his albums.

Or maybe there just aren't enough good ones to fill an entire album these days. It's possible. Which makes the prospects of yet another 3-CD release a bit worrying.

Papaj said:

I was reading intently till I saw this.

Romance1600 said:

As I said, it promises to be incredibly dividing. Some will call it his best work in many years, others will say it might be his worst ever!

squirrelgrease said:

He's kinda hot.

Romance1600 said:

Yeah I was surprised to read this too. That and "Chocolate Box" being the best track. There's nothing about "There'll Never Be" that reminds of Sign o the Times. Makes me question how much of this reviewer and I would agree on the other things.

LondonStyle said:

Yeah, that's why NIN was #1 at Amazon's MP3 store last year, with an album you could legally download for free.

TwiliteKid said:

No, they're bigger artists. They've been doing things on THEIR terms for years, while Prince still has to obey other masters (labels he has deals with, record stores he has deals, with,...). They've sold more records, they've had more influence.

Oh, and they're always mentioned when it comes to VIABLE BUSINESS MODELS. Hell, there's a guy out there teaching music industry folks on how NIN kicked their asses.

You're confusing Prince the superstar from the 1980s with Prince the way past his prime time oldies act from now.

Oh, and FYI: George Michael distributed his music online long before Prince.

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince is always mentioned in print regarding Viable Business Models of promtion, along with NIN and Radiohead. And they are not bigger (or smaller ) artists then Prince.

And lets not suck Trents cock just because he chose to give away his synth-fart noodlings as product. Some of that shit DESERVED to be given away just as some claim Prince's PE did. And he has really only begun to do this since he left this label after the label promoted Year Zero

Trent is not a god so stop praying to him just because you dislike Prince.

BartVanHemelen said:

I think NIN are so big they should try a 21 nights at the o2 in London and you'll see that they are not that... big after all when you find out the place is half empty night after night!

Putmarroussia said:

Exactly.

BartVanHemelen said:

You make less and less sense as the days go by.
[Edited 3/22/09 9:21am]

My only point was that NIN and Radiohead took a concept prince initially set up somewhere down the line, and perfected to me their bad successful. As far as i'm concerned, they have changed things because of it. It's not saying that Prince doesn't deserve credit.. he is a pioneer, we all know this... but these groups took it a step further and put their financial state on the line.. and it paid off. literally.


Having said that.. I recall paying around 2 bucks for Guitar Demo..


just sayin

BartVanHemelen said:

I'm not confusing anything, you pathetic little man. You however, are distoring the details, as usual: Radiohead's first venture into the indie arena was late 2007. NIN's two indie releases came in 2008. Hardly the years you refer to above. Also, if Radiohead were really doing things on their terms, would they have to repeatedly ask folks not to buy the reissues that EMI has been putting out lately? They're just as much their old label's bitch as Prince is his.

Furthermore, what's really so innovative about Radiohead did? If I looked at things the way you do, I could argue that they actually ripped their fans off by asking for money for lossy MP3s. The album was still released on CD by a third-party label, the very same old-business model that you seem to think they've moved beyond. The same is true of NIN: You like to talk about him releasing those records for free, but if you wanted them on CD, you have to pay for them. So again, if viewed the world through your filter, I could suggest that all Trent did was let people hear the album ahead of its physical release, something that would have happened anyway.

Honestly Bart, why do you bother spending time here? Your disdain for Prince and his music has been made clear. Is your life really so empty that this is how you need to fill your days?

TwiliteKid said:[quote]

BartVanHemelen said:

For fuck's sake get a room will ya.

LilCub said:[quote]

TwiliteKid said:

Thanks for your valuable contribution. Another troll are you?

Thanks for your valuable contribution. Another troll are you?[/quote]



No but you two are whining like little kids.
Get over it.

Genesia said:

Why "poor"? Obviously she's not a songwriter nor a musician, it seems that she has no pride either

There are a lot of artists, and increasingly large ones, doing non-traditional marketing direct to fans without the benefit of a record label. NIN & Radiohead are the most famous & obvious and I applaud what they've done. Maybe I should have mentioned them in the piece since they're kind of relevant to what I'm talking about.

What I thought was interesting about this move was, releasing a 3-CD set for less than the price you'd expect to download that much music, and doing it through a major chain store. That's quite different from selling or giving away free music on your website, or doing limited edition mail-orders of physical product. AC/DC and the Eagles had chain store tie-ins last year but through the traditional label system and only for a short time. I think that's pretty innovative.

Re the SOTT ref for There'll Never Be Another, I jotted that note down in the first 30 seconds or so based on the production style & general sound of the track, not meant to imply it is as good or a carbon-coby, but after hearing a lot of other, very different stuff, that was the image that popped in my head, as for which album that track might have fit on. I might not still feel that way after listening more.

lezama said:

seriously he joined the site and comes back complaining . How predictable. Wouldn't it be amazing if he transformed his thoughts and came back to tell us he's impressed and it was worth the wait but no same ole jibberish for the last decade.