Without offending the fanbase? Is there a way where one might write a negative review and those that admire Prince would say, "Oh, I understand where that person's coming from. While I may personally disagree with them based on my fanaticism, I respect their opinion."

I doubt that's possible.

Maybe the critic is not getting paid enough to put out a good review or they are in a bad mood?

suomynona said:

There are always negative reviews of Prince records when he releases great stuff like TRC. His worst outputs get rare reviews like Musicology for instance.

That's quite incredible!

But come one, most critics, journalists, and people in general hate Prince in the first place. So don't complain, you've got plenty of negative stuff to read about P out there;
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suomynona said:

Easy ...you just need to be able to back up what you say....

So my question to you is how would you back up your review.....i'll give you a few days...months to think about it....

luv4u said:

So they are writing a negative review because they aren't getting paid enough or they're in a bad mood? It can't possibly be because of sub par material?

so sad "reviews" still have any substance on the bathroom scale. a description of the music ,at best, is what should be conveyed

1. Do not ever...ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever...post it on the Org or any other Prince "related" site.

2. Use an untraceable pseudonym, for posting anywhere else.
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LondonStyle said:

Dont ask this dude. He's the one with the bias. Playing Prince boots on his site on purpose so Prince would sue so he could write to MTV and here that he was trying to free the music but Prince was a meany poopy head. He is another LouWall

It is possible to write a negative review, kindly stating reasons for disliking the material. A form of criticism can be voiced without sarcasm and the writer can also mention their typical musical tastes...so the reader knows where they are coming from.

How to write a negative review without offending? What the hell are you trying to do....take all the fun out of it?
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suomynona said:

it depends on which segment of the fanbase you're referring to.
i'm assuming you're talking about the fams/sheep that are a large contingent here on the Org. for them, any negative statement against their almighty purple savior is punishable by anything they can think of.

apparently up to and including posting pictures of the reviewer and cracking jokes about his physical appearance.

yes, it's THAT sad.

xlr8r said:

xlr8r said:

Hey let Suomynona speak ..... I'd love to see how he answers the question .. ....still waiting for an answer from him/her....

xlr8r said:

Right. How dare I support Prince. How dare sites like Housequake, Uptown and The Prince Family support Prince.

Or maybe better, how dare fans support Prince in any way other than what he sees fit. All of that stuff I posted on my website se7en years ago? How much of it has been released, proving what Prince claimed? That's right. Not one song. None of it ever will be released. And if it is, Prince fans (like myself) are the type that support him with their wallets.

Anyways, your argument is tired. Answer the question.

Look how he explained "While I may personally disagree with them based on my fanaticism" There's the "fanatacism" word which is disrepectful and shows his bias already and again per usual. He is another in the dime a dozen barrell. Spoort for Prince? Please. Some sits never showed any suppoert including his. What they showed was they used their forum to complain about the dude and what he did to not fullfill THEIR expectations and whatnot lol. Support/body massager...please! Why these folks continue to stay on prince sites , especially when new material and activities happen, just to slighly and not so slighly do what they do is quite telling.


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xlr8r said:

Maybe they have all lost their mojo and want prince to give it back to them....

If you are writing a review, whether or not you offend is not generally a worry.

Even a well written review that is unbias, respectful and has backup/background for whatever the reviewer finds unfavorable will be panned by those of differing opinion and/or fervor.

Putmarroussia said:

That's true. Prince has always been far ahead of the American music critics. Rolling Stone blasted Parade and was lukewarm on SOTT. For the most part, mainstream critics do not understand his peculiar brand of eclectic genius until after the fact.

luv4u said:

i've written a bunch of reviews for magazines and newspapers in the past and i wrote positive reviews despite getting paid peanuts.

you might be on to something with the bad mood theory, though...

Nothinbutjoy said:

you have to have a thick skin to write reviews, because inevitably you're going to piss someone off, no matter how kind you think you were. also, you have to REALLY know your stuff, because if you pan an album/book/movie/etc. and you don't know a lot about the artist or the genre, people will rake you over the coals (and rightfully so).

xlr8r said:

Are you quoting a bootleg?

Is that supportive to Prince?

xlr8r said:

it boils down to nothing more than this


I trips me the fuck out to see the "veterans" of this site rear their heads when a new release is on the way just to post catty bullshit. At this point in his career, I've come to understand that Prince will never be able to cater to his entire fanbase mainly because of his age and the diverse tastes of music of his fans. Despite some of the terrible music that he's released in recent years, and the continuous erratic behavior (which shouldn't even phase yall anymore), I still think Prince is held to some of the most unfair standards than any other artist of his caliber and age... particularly by his fans. Mofos, particularly the "vets", should stop acting like victims who can't escape their abusers... or jilted ex lovers who go out of their way to say negative shit about the one who broke their heart. It's nothing more than mere entertainment. Accept shit for what it is or move the fuck on... DAYUMM!!!!!

bsk3601 said:

MANDATE!

Anxiety said:

Now if only more of the people writing reviews of Prince's music would be like that. It's definately "rightfully so" if you dishing out praise or displeasure, and you do not have your facts straight.

Would you like to hear a critic's response to this?

I was at the listening party last night & my piece will go up on LAist.com later tonight or tomorrow AM. It's 99% written but not yet posted.

It's not 100% positive although I do think Lotusflow3r is remarkable. But the other 2 reviews I saw today seemed to feel the exact opposite, they dug MPLSound a lot more than I.

What can I say.... we were in the same room listening to the same thing...hopefully we all just call em as we see em. We each bring our own prejudices & favoritism. Somebody who wanted a whole album of lush romantic Diamonds And Pearls type stuff, cuz that's the only Prince music they like, would probably pan all three albums.

I'm not paid anything for reviews & all of the pro writers I know get paid the same regardless of how they felt about an album or gig. So to suggest money is turning opinion to a false negative is not accurate. If anything, you sometimes have corporate mags praise million-selling shit records so as not to put sand in the wheels of industry that keep them fat and happy. Jim DeRogatis tried to talk shit about Hootie in Rolling Stone when they were #1 & got his ass fired.

It's also tempting to make the coverage as favorable as possible so the publicity people will like it and keep inviting me to events and give me free stuff, which is the only perk I ever get for my efforts. But when it's time to write I don't think about them, I think about the readers.

I'm not totally unbiased when it comes to Prince - I came into it as a fan. I usually choose to only write about stuff I expect to like.

Bria's album is just not very good, though (on that, the major press and I agree). It would be abusing the readership to claim it was excellent & they should all go buy it.

If the fan base can't bear to hear that...sorry, I can't do anything about that. My responsibility is to the reader on the street, not to the fanatics. They already know the Correct view, they don't need my opinion.

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xlr8r said:

it boils down to nothing more than this


OMFG!!!!

suomynona said:

I'm sure you'll make room for that sub par material somewhere. I see tons of it here

bsk3601 said:

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bsk3601 said:

I want a tshirt!!