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Reply #30 posted 03/17/09 9:29pm

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need to bring eric leeds and them back nod pray giggle. black friday yay! music
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Reply #31 posted 03/17/09 11:09pm

PEJ

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Sdldawn said:

nothing is worse than when he puts fake sounding horns on his studio albums..



uy mean when he says horns on the song but their keys? biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 03/17/09 11:12pm

coolcat

I strongly disagree. Enough horns... Nothing annoys me more than Let's Go Crazy with horns.
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Reply #33 posted 03/17/09 11:35pm

Sdldawn

PEJ said:

Sdldawn said:

nothing is worse than when he puts fake sounding horns on his studio albums..



uy mean when he says horns on the song but their keys? biggrin


yeah, that was a crucial bummer moment in that song..
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Reply #34 posted 03/17/09 11:41pm

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as much sa I like the horns - the have been 'overdone' for the last few years IMHO...

I absolutely love what Prince is doing now - bringing, as Jimi once said, the 'electric saxophone' to the front...

prince has overloaded his live show with too many sounds (sampled or otherwise), its nice to hear things stripped back to the basics....funk rock!! I think Prince plays Miss You better than the Stones do LOL
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Reply #35 posted 03/17/09 11:43pm

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jimino1 said:

as much sa I like the horns - the have been 'overdone' for the last few years IMHO...

I absolutely love what Prince is doing now - bringing, as Jimi once said, the 'electric saxophone' to the front...

prince has overloaded his live show with too much sond, its nice to hear things stripped back and to Funky Rock!! I think Prince plays Miss You better than the Stones do LOL

"i looked at ron wood and said 'i miss you bay-bay yeah!!'" falloff
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Reply #36 posted 03/18/09 6:25am

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stanleylieber said:

Paris9748430 said:


The versions of I Wanna Be Your Lover and Head that he did with horns during the Lovesexy tour were the SHIT!!!


nod



True, but back then it was just Eric and Atlanta Bliss. Not a whole bunch of horn players. They were a bit too dominant between 2001 and 2008.
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Reply #37 posted 03/18/09 7:48am

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KoolEaze said:

stanleylieber said:



nod



True, but back then it was just Eric and Atlanta Bliss. Not a whole bunch of horn players. They were a bit too dominant between 2001 and 2008.


sometimes there is even a sound effect that represents the horns starting
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #38 posted 03/18/09 7:50am

Putmarroussia

KoolEaze said:

stanleylieber said:



nod



True, but back then it was just Eric and Atlanta Bliss. Not a whole bunch of horn players. They were a bit too dominant between 2001 and 2008.


In 2001, the band was just plain perfect.
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Reply #39 posted 03/18/09 7:58am

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Putmarroussia said:

KoolEaze said:




True, but back then it was just Eric and Atlanta Bliss. Not a whole bunch of horn players. They were a bit too dominant between 2001 and 2008.


In 2001, the band was just plain perfect.


Yes, I liked that incarnation of the NPG as well, and there was only one horn player most of the time ( Najee, Eric or Maceo) but with time, there were all kinds of horn players on the stage , starting in either 2001 or 2002, as the ONA tour and later Musicology ( 2004) progressed. Candy, Maceo, sometimes Eric, Greg, all kinds of horn players. I also didn´t like that big ass horn section during Act II.
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Reply #40 posted 03/18/09 10:34am

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So I've just listened to Black Friday. I see what some posters have said about the lack of horns draining some of the material (most notably 3121), but on the whole, I think it was a great show. I really like the more stripped down sound, and hope he sticks with it for a while.

As for the setlist itself, I hope he adds more stuff from the new records once they're released, but I don't have a problem with the covers either. Some of them were amazing. I could do with a little less Shelby (by which I mean none. Backup is one thing, but I don't want to hear her take the lead).
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Reply #41 posted 03/18/09 10:37am

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Fuck that, he needs Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss back.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #42 posted 03/18/09 10:41am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Fuck that, he needs Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss back.


I don't see that happening. I was actually wondering what happened to Atlanta Bliss the other day. Anyone know?
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Reply #43 posted 03/18/09 12:33pm

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TwiliteKid said:

So I've just listened to Black Friday. I see what some posters have said about the lack of horns draining some of the material (most notably 3121), but on the whole, I think it was a great show. I really like the more stripped down sound, and hope he sticks with it for a while.

As for the setlist itself, I hope he adds more stuff from the new records once they're released, but I don't have a problem with the covers either. Some of them were amazing. I could do with a little less Shelby (by which I mean none. Backup is one thing, but I don't want to hear her take the lead).


He should do shows differently if he wants to use horns, every show doesn't need horns. Go ahead and do an all out rock show, no horns, do a jazzy upbeat show-bring in the horns, do a funk show bring in 1 horn


I agree, Shelby has a voice but it's too big for Prince music
I say if you let her lead a song, don't do a cover, have her sing:Nasty Girls Neon Telephone, or something out of his playlist. But I'd rather not have Shelby.

I think Prince is depending too much on big singers(vocally) and musicians who have their own sound Maceo included. I don't think a lot of the band member in the last 10 or more years play 'prince' music they play their own style to Prince music. Sheila & Bobby were the only drummers who could play the music and it sound like the song from the album.

Michael Bland was just straight up hard, I think he played mostly heavy rock prior to Prince and John Blackwell too me plays a very impromtu sound like a lot of church drummers... sounds good, but it's not the song.
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Reply #44 posted 03/18/09 9:34pm

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people bitched and bitched about the horns, now yall want them back
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Reply #45 posted 03/19/09 1:59am

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RumAndRaisin said:

WetDream said:

ahahahaha!

you should be on channel 4 or something! Or at least have a slot besides Keeping up Appearances on UKGold G2


if thats a compliment than thanks, but if not...

KEEPING UP APEARENCES is the shit!






sorry, i meant KEEPING UP APPEARENCES is shit...

easy mistake to make

indeed lol
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Reply #46 posted 03/19/09 10:51am

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xlr8r said:

people bitched and bitched about the horns, now yall want them back

lol


I always loved me some horns
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #47 posted 03/21/09 9:09am

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PEJ said:

xlr8r said:

people bitched and bitched about the horns, now yall want them back

lol


I always loved me some horns

me too!!!
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Reply #48 posted 03/24/09 4:35am

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TwiliteKid said:

Milty said:




when i heard that arrangement i was like "WTF!!!" even when i was in music college the other students were like "WTF!!!"

i don't think it's a sample tho. in the liner notes it's credited to Prince and one of the horn guys.


Actually, he's right: It's lifted from a track that the NPG Hornz did on one of their albums as The Hornheadz. Can't remember what that track is called at the moment, but Prince just cut it down and added it to the end of BJB.



yup..i went to their site and ordered the cd...it's somewhere...i can't remember the name of the track.
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Reply #49 posted 03/24/09 5:15am

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coolcat said:

I strongly disagree. Enough horns... Nothing annoys me more than Let's Go Crazy with horns.

ditto
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Reply #50 posted 03/24/09 2:50pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

TwiliteKid said:



Actually, he's right: It's lifted from a track that the NPG Hornz did on one of their albums as The Hornheadz. Can't remember what that track is called at the moment, but Prince just cut it down and added it to the end of BJB.



yup..i went to their site and ordered the cd...it's somewhere...i can't remember the name of the track.

New Dell Inn
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Reply #51 posted 03/24/09 2:52pm

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RumAndRaisin said:

BobGeorge909 said:




yup..i went to their site and ordered the cd...it's somewhere...i can't remember the name of the track.

New Dell Inn


Atta boy.
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Reply #52 posted 04/07/09 12:48pm

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KoolEaze said:

Milty said:




when i heard that arrangement i was like "WTF!!!" even when i was in music college the other students were like "WTF!!!"

i don't think it's a sample tho. in the liner notes it's credited to Prince and one of the horn guys.



Could you please elaborate a bit ? I´m not a musician and would like to know what´s so special about the sampled horns in that song.



Oh wait...I think I got confused. I was talking about the horn breakdown near the end. that stuff is amazing. yeah he may have used samples for the body of the song however.

but what I meant was all the counterpoint in the horn arrangement at the end. it's like all the horn players were soloing on their own but they somehow knew what the others were playing.
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