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LondonStyle said:

Actually, my 5 year old thinks it's the best. I am more looking forward to lotusflow3r though...it does sound dated unfortunately and unrelateable to the public.

masbas said:[quote]

Shorty said:

I think people want to hear "classic" Prince. Especially his funk/r&b fans that are casual Prince listeners. It may sound dated to a lot of you, but I don't think it does. It's very typical 1982 Prince and that's what he was trying to accomplish.

daPrettyman said:

err...you're all ova the place..one second you say it doesn't sound dated then you say it's typical 1982. I only wish it sounded 82..that would be vintage...not dated. to me..it sounds...very 1999ish

Shorty said:

When I say typical 1982, I mean in writing style and arrangement. Are you saying it should sound more like Justin's "Until The End of Time"?

I thought you heard Never be another foll and got excited for you

daPrettyman said:

I don't know enough about music to comment on writting style and arrangement....and I've never even heard JT's song you mentioned. I'm saying it should sound better....much much better than it does. It sounds like it's from the Rave Un2 album.

Alexandernvrmind said:

I have to agree with you about the disrespect he gets from some fans when he cuts an R&B track. It's almost like some fans only see "the rock" side of prince's music, and give much criticism if he creates a track with a bit more r&b, soul flavor. They immediately think “ fail” when an r&b flavored track is released, especially if there is no solo rock guitar intertwined in it. I doubt Prince became a musician only to appeal to a selected group of fans.. Too many fans want to hold on to the Prince of the “Wendy & Lisa” era, not accepting that he has moved on years ago creating tracks flavored with various flavors. Either you like a particular track or you don’t, but to tell an artist what type of music he should only create is a bit reaching. Either you like a particular track an artist creates or you don’t.

Secondly, people need to remember that “rock” came out of blues and so did “r&b” as well. I would like to think that Prince is not “limited” to creating songs to appeal, only to a particular segment of his fan base. Why put chains on an artist’s creativity because there’s only a particular sound you prefer to hear from him?

Every song/sound will not appeal to every fan, but to assume he will fail as an artist and to criticize him vigorously for taking various directions with his music, wreaks of a fan who wants to limit an artist’s creativity. Don’t get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism, which is no different from criticizing a piece of art. But when you criticize a piece of art, you’re just giving your perspective of what you think that piece of art may signify. There will be different opinions about it. Only thing is, you cannot take the brush out of the artist’s hand and change it to satisfy your dislike for it or what you think it should appear to be.

2elijah said:

His R&B of today can't touch the jams he was putting out in the day. When was the last "Adore"? I'm not saying he has to do Adore X a thousand but he is capable of so much more than the throw away cookie cutter stuff he's been doing.

Even 18 & Over was at least original Prince: sleighbells on top of a bass line/driving synth/moaning chick. Might not have been Adore quality but it was unique. His R&B output sounds like he's trying to follow today's trends instead of creating them as the trendsetter....


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thaCONcept said:

Yeah there are, cd singles are still released

I don't know, everyone has their hopes and hates

I actually like the song better as an instrumental. I think if it was sang differently, the way it's sung and the subject is weak too me, not the music

Usually when I come across an artist who tries to do: Gospel RnB Rock Blues Jazz etc etc it's too distracting, it doesn't work, it's all over the place

I've never had that problem with Prince, I think his 'experimental' albums have a continuity and albums like Planet Earth or some prior albums can feel like it's all over the place

I think one difference between his earlier music and the latter
Is that the '80's music was "his music" his style, then he tried to keep up with what was happening in music, becoming rappish, singing style changing song writing being too simple or repetative (the lyrics of Never Be Another Like Me) He shines when he does Purple Music, his music. NBALM is his music(at least what we were leaked) he just doesn't have a good melody and the singing is too 'hard' 4 me

is this on the new site or anywhere else that is official? I haven't heard it.

I just listened to it again

I generally prefer the instrumtal

And around 4:10 minutes the feel of the song changes, it has more strings more melody it sound better than the rest of the song. Check it out

If that is how the whole song was I would really love it...I love the percussion work anyway

Shorty said:

Here's "Until The End of Time".

His R&B of today can't touch the jams he was putting out in the day. When was the last "Adore"? I'm not saying he has to do Adore X a thousand but he is capable of so much more than the throw away cookie cutter stuff he's been doing.

Even 18 & Over was at least original Prince: sleighbells on top of a bass line/driving synth/moaning chick. Might not have been Adore quality but it was unique. His R&B output sounds like he's trying to follow today's trends instead of creating them as the trendsetter....

*****

C'mon I might agree with you a bit that a lot of his R&B stuff back in the day is stronger... but 18 & Older? There was nothing original about that song. It was Price's take on what Dre, Ice Cube and Snoop Dog were doing. He even rapped like Snoop on it

I like some of the R&B on Musicology and especially the Chocolate Invasion... although even there Prince could use a good editor IMO. I think the point was that some of the rock fans on this site are particulary disrespectful of his R&B songs and feel Prince is only relevant as a rock musician. Even though the vast majority of those songs certainly have blues and R&B under currents and almost always have funk elements as well

I mean that live version of Fury for example that got people all crazy... people loved the guitar (and they should have) but did you listen to everything else that was going on with that song. That was an RB Funk number with guitar layered in
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2elijah said:

you don't know what other people think.

purplecam said:

Shorty said:

Of course I don't, how silly to think anyone can, but we all have a right to an opinion, such as yours, whether we disagree or agree to disagree.
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daPrettyman said:

well...I would never say I want prince to sound like JT and bouncy but...it was a hell of alot better than never be another like me...

It's awful. Prince-by-numbers.

And the cartoonish "wooooo!" is beyond silly and needs to be retired ASAP.

Musically it sounds limp, and dated. Lyrically it's nothing that Prince hasn't said before, and better. The melody is flat and forgettable.

It sounds like a reject from the NPGMC era.

Just my 2 cents, of course..

*bitch bitch bitch*

if u dont lyke the musicc then why bother getting distressed about it

minneapolisFunq said:

distressed isn't really the right word. More like disappointed that Prince is apparently unable or unwilling to get out of autopilot.

Shorty said:

They don't have to "think". It's obvious that lots of people always label Prince's r&b as lame, horrific, and any other adjective that is bad. When they get a decent pop/rock song like "The One U Wanna C", they manage 2 find something 2 complain about. Prince can't win in some of the "fans" eyes around here.

daPrettyman said:

Yes, very obvious, and I so agree with that last sentence in your post.

Aannastesia2 said:

I knew someone was going to be freaked out about that.

And no I don't think the 80's music is shit.

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah but who gives a fuck about them. i think that was his point.

vinx98 said:

Shorty said:

there are people out there influenced by prince that can do the prince sound more authentically than prince. never be another like me is a peice of poo and deep down in our hearts we all know it. this song is soulful and i cant see prince ever making a song this good in the future if he continues down his current plastic direction.

vinx98 said:

Current?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ok the last 15-20 years

vinx98 said:

How can a mimmicker of a sound make it better than the original? That's like saying Sly and James were horrible and Prince was influenced by their style and made it better than them. I don't buy it.

As for his direction, Prince is revisiting his past even more. He started visiting more of his past in 99 when he dug back out the Lin. Every since then, people have complained that he has done nothing new and his sound is weak.

The crazy thing is, we will still be having these same conversations 5, 10, 15 years from now (or as long as he continues to release music). No one seems to want to accept a song or album for what it is. They always seem to compare it to PR or something from DM or any other 80s album. Sure, P was a big hit in the 80s, but he is not about reliving his hey day at this moment. It's simply about establishing a musical legacy that will live forever.