OldFriends4Sale said:

He must be old and even older fashioned if he uses the 18th century term mulatto. I used it onece here 2 years ago and got called out a racist

714 said:

the ship of him blowing you away with his crazy purpleness has sailed. you were on that ship for a while, you got to take a trip, now it's done.

plus, you're different too. what might have blown you away in the past might not do it for you now.

you know???

Anxiety said:

Some of us don't look back on our days in black laced bras, black panties, thigh high stockings, garter belts and high heels in shame though

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

and some of us are still trying to fit our flabby old wrinkled junk into them black silky grannie pannies.

can you imagine the prince who led the revolution through the 'another lonely christmas' recording session trying to make sense of modern prince songs

it would be like that scene in 'amadeus' where mozart mocks salieri's composition

Name someone "today" whose better then him? No really. Just because he doesn't do the splits & writes racy lyrics doesn't mean the music has suffered. I think these new releases will be a new jumping off point for people who don't know yet what their missing.

Farfunknugin said:

do you mean name someone today who is writing more interesting music than prince is writing today?

714 said:

You have direct statistic sources or links to back up that ignorant and shortsightened statement ?

*edit*
[Edited 3/13/09 21:57pm]

you know your not in your age until you hit 60 right...

714 said:

uhm he played vegas last year... just curious, in your 20 years in the business did drugs ever enter the picture. your rubiks cube analogy took me back to 1980

btw 714 do u live in the OC 714 is one of our area codes

Farfunknugin said:

Well, you asked. Off the top of my head:

Neil Finn
Jonatha Brooke
Radiohead
Wendy & Lisa
Marcus Miller
Fiona Apple
John Mayer

... these are the artists whose songwriting in recent years I would say compares favorably to Prince's. When I want to be blown away, I listen to his old stuff and other people's new stuff. He's a phenomenal performer and musician, but his writing has fallen off.

Shango said:

Shango got me thinking (...and Googling, lol). Actually 714, your statement isn't supported by the *Recording Industry Association of America's 2007 Sound Recording Consumer Profile. According to the RIAA, people 45 years of age and older make up the largest percentage of music consumers, with 15-19 year-olds coming in a significantly distant 2nd. Interestingly enough, Rock music is the genre accounting for the largest percentage of purchases, with R&B/Urban, Country, & Pop coming in at a distant 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place respectfully, with Rap/Hip-Hop music coming in at 5th place. These statistics were calculated over the past 10 years, though the previous decade shows similar trends.

*Recording Industry Association of America's 2007 Sound Recording Consumer Profile: http://76.74.24.142/44510...EDCE0F.pdf

714 said:

Maybe it's time for you to stop.

PDogz said:

Good job

I'm only 26, so I didn't know Prince back then. I became a fan in 2003. So all I've known is the 'current Prince.'

That being said, I would have loved to be a fan back in the Prince through The Gold Experience years, which is my favorite time period for P albums.

ThreadBare said:

I think when someone asks the question, "Name someone today that is better than him," they mean in ALL aspects. Singer, songwriter, musician, performer. The whole fucking package. And not a group, either. SomeONE who is better than him. There isn't anybody. You can throw a name out, as you did in the above quote, but of all of those people, only Fiona Apple and John Mayer are prominent in popular music as single performers. And they aren't better than Prince. I love Fiona; she writes some great songs. But she's not Prince. I use Prince's own analogy when comparing. I can imagine Prince singing "Shadowboxer," but I just don't see Fiona rocking "Fury."

I know he's not the same artist he was 25 years ago. I actually like that about him. I like that I can play his music with my kids in the room now. No, he doesn't have me sitting in silence, trying to figure out what I just listened to, but like someone said, we're older now. What may have blown our minds when we were younger doesn't necessarily do so now.
[Edited 3/15/09 8:52am]

TheBigBang said:

but what does it matter if you can "prove" he's still the best with charts and graphs if the newer songs don't inspire people? i think that's what folks are talking about. i couldn't paint a thomas kinkaide but i'm not hanging that ish in my living room.
[Edited 3/15/09 23:17pm]

stanleylieber said:

That's an excellent analogy, very visual (literally, lol). But then I guess the deeper question is: Who says the newer songs aren't inspiring people? And how then do you quantify that? As in: Who are the "people" that aren't being inspired? Then finally: Are there "people" who are inspired by the "newer stuff"? Because if so, doesn't that negate the entire argument?

purplecam said:

Maybe they were just surfing, came upon this site by chance, were so outraged by the sychophantic brown-nosing, Kool Aid drinking, Prince bumming Fams, they had to sign up, wait 5 days to post, and voice their outrage.

If i was a newbie here, i might be inclined do the same.

I just want him to play live again, that is about the only thing that is exciting about Prince to me. Of course i will give these new albums a go, but i fear more of the same coaster material.

Marrk said:

...except that they signed up, waited 6 YEARS to post... (hardly an incidental event by chance)

Marrk said:

They signed up 1 month after you did, 6 years ago, and this was their first post.

714 said:

come on.. let 714 share his opinion, we all have different opinions.. and it doesn´t matter if this is his first post

Huggiebear said:

Not really
It's a term that a lot of youth are reclaiming in especially in the multiracial movement

It defines them better than saying mixed or biracial, especially since there are term for other 'types' of mixes

there are yahoo groups and online groups with that title

Mulatto.org is one

714, if you are bored with Prince, why are you still viewing fansites? Dont waste your time, move on.

I think a few things that have changed in comparison to Prince today

Life experience make a difference in music
There are a lot of musicians & artist who's lives aren't much different from when they started. When Prince was hitting in the 70's and 80's he was hungery (physically and musically) He had relationships with 'real' people, everyday people. Not actresses and other establish/famous musicians.
Songs like Private Joy and She's Always In My Hair were inspired by lovers and friends Susan Moonsie & Jill Jones, the Beautiful Ones a song 2 woo Susannah Melvoin, Hello & Old Friends 4 Sale a real life experience expressed in music
Wonderful Ass about his trouble relationship with Vanity
Then he had some very close people in his life that were there from the beginning, there when they all had stars in their eyes and a drive

I think with a lot of musicians who move 2 far away from 'everyday life and people' loose good inspiration.

So after Diamonds & Pearls (not counting Graffiti Bridge) there were increaslingly more albums with hit's & misses

It's like Michael Jackson, once he became larger than life (Thriller) the music and lyrics became non interesting, repetitive, non inspiring, not creative. He had no real human interractions, no regular/real life experiences

PDogz said:

i was explaining my understanding of a certain view of prince; that is, how people can still think he's "the best" musician but also like other people's current music better than his. i could be wrong in my understanding of others' opinions, but i'm fairly certain i understand my own view, which is essentially this: i don't know of any working pop musician with more talent than prince, but i like a lot of other people's new music better than i like a lot of prince's new music. i don't think we can negate that argument by pointing out that some people do like prince's new music. mainly because it's not really an argument; it's just an observation of fact: individual a feels b. the reason i wrote what you quoted was that someone seemed to be saying that, because prince is arguably the most talented person currently working in pop music, then that means his songs are always better than everyone else's. i disagree with that and i can express that disagreement with confidence because i represent an exception to the statement. when i read these threads and see what other fans have to say, i get the impression that some of them feel similar to the way i do. so, no, the fact that some people really, really like prince's new swagger doesn't mean everyone does.

and i'm happy some people like the new prince. i'm not trying to take that feeling away from anyone. at the same time, my own opinions are valid for me.
[Edited 3/16/09 7:48am]

myloveis4ever said:

Certainly I hope 714 continues to post, sharing their opinion, while remaining aware that their opinion may be challenged. Opinions add to the discussion, and this is a forum for discussions.