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Reply #30 posted 03/10/09 12:23pm

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I don't think the Chris Rock performance was lip synced.


It was lipsynched, definately. They used an edited live track for this.

Oh...I'll have 2 view it again. No wonder he kept holding the mic so close 2 his mouth.
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Reply #31 posted 03/10/09 12:32pm

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He lip synched Emancipation, not once, but twice.
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Reply #32 posted 03/10/09 12:44pm

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IAintTheOne said:

SOTT movie was lip synched




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Reply #33 posted 03/10/09 1:01pm

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Prince did not Lip-sync the Super Bowl fools
He made UP A Line Commentating on the Rain



Unless he knew it was going to rain when he recorded this?
So either he lip-synced or he is a weather-god
But he did lip-sync at the WMA and he was terrible at iton the commetry of Purple Rain they said he wasn't hitting marks when he had to synch so he sang live to a pre-recorded backing track and was mixed later in the edit
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Reply #34 posted 03/10/09 1:12pm

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daPrettyman said:

ludwig said:



It was lipsynched, definately. They used an edited live track for this.

Oh...I'll have 2 view it again. No wonder he kept holding the mic so close 2 his mouth.



As ludwig stated it was lipsynced to a live performance recorded at a gig in New York almost a month before he performed on the Chris Rock Show.
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Reply #35 posted 03/10/09 1:30pm

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IAintTheOne said:

SOTT movie was lip synched


I really don't understand why. It's a shame that Prince released a concert movie that played in theaters and it was lipsynched.
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Reply #36 posted 03/10/09 1:44pm

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IAintTheOne said:

SOTT movie was lip synched


I really don't understand why. It's a shame that Prince released a concert movie that played in theaters and it was lipsynched.


Cause most of it was recorded at paisley park i thnk just the crowd shots was at the venues
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Reply #37 posted 03/10/09 1:46pm

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cream72 said:

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I really don't understand why. It's a shame that Prince released a concert movie that played in theaters and it was lipsynched.


Cause most of it was recorded at paisley park i thnk just the crowd shots was at the venues


That doesn't explain why it was lipsynched.
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Reply #38 posted 03/10/09 1:52pm

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The SOTT movie was not lipsynced, because it is not really live at all. Large parts of it were re-recorded later on in the studio because the initial takes were unusable - it is an assembled piece on the overall. That includes the drums from all of the cuts as well, which is why they stick out from the mix in such a peculiar way. If anything ,it was a "lipsync in reverse" at some parts. Prince had to match his voice to the original takes.

Well, the whole thing works, so I have no complaints about it.
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Reply #39 posted 03/10/09 2:01pm

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novabrkr said:

The SOTT movie was not lipsynced, because it is not really live. Large parts of it were re-recorded later on in the studio because the initial takes were unusable - it is an assembled piece on the overall. That includes the drums from all of the curst as well, which is why they stick out from the mix in such a peculiar way. If anything it was a "lipsync in reverse" at most parts.

Well, the whole thing works, so I have no complains about it.


I love watching it and consider it a lot of fun, but I still think the explanations about it are weird. There are clearly parts that are lipsynched--It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night is the most obvious instance. He is frequently "singing" without a microphone in parts of that song.

I know the official answer is that it was supposed to be all live but then parts of the video were not usable or something like that. What I don't understand is why you would assemble a band of great musicians, put them on a soundstage, give them all their instruments, get all the cameras and recording equipment needed, and bring in an audience...and then not just have them do the same concert that they've been doing for months, have rehearsed, and are old pros at.

Couldn't they just have done the concert there at Paisley Park, recorded it, and made that the concert film?
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Reply #40 posted 03/10/09 3:27pm

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amorbella said:

I dont recall ever hearing he ever did any "lip synching"
If he ever did, it was probably absolutely necessary.


Yup...

I have an interview right b4 the world music awards and he was complaining that they are making everyone lipsynch. Plus, he was mad about the way they had that big gold symbol...he said something like "they have my name looking like....".

Soul Train guest ALWAYS lip-sync....

There have been a few times but the Super Bowl and Oprah was not.....
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Reply #41 posted 03/10/09 3:29pm

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novabrkr said:

The SOTT movie was not lipsynced, because it is not really live at all. Large parts of it were re-recorded later on in the studio because the initial takes were unusable - it is an assembled piece on the overall. That includes the drums from all of the cuts as well, which is why they stick out from the mix in such a peculiar way. If anything ,it was a "lipsync in reverse" at some parts. Prince had to match his voice to the original takes.

Well, the whole thing works, so I have no complaints about it.
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There was a part during House Quake that said "is he lip-synching"?
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Reply #42 posted 03/10/09 3:42pm

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Yes he has, some venues require it especially stadiums like the Superbowl.

If you knew anything about concerts and running sound, you would know that when singers are not going to be singing (during a solo, break, etc etc) the soundman usually mutes his/her mic to prevent background noise and/or feedback
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oh hell no
he didn't lipsynch on the superball!

No I'm sure he didn't (not positve) but I googled the information and that is where I got the information that many performers do.
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Reply #43 posted 03/10/09 4:30pm

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prime said:

and Oprah was not.....


"Sleep Around" was, or at least part of it was; I'm not sure about the rest of the songs since I haven't watched it in forever. But on "Sleep Around," he had a shoutout to "Oprah!" in there where he was nowhere near a microphone.
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Reply #44 posted 03/10/09 4:41pm

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I can't believe people are still speaking all that shit about him lip-syncing in Superbowl ("... but, his guitar wasn't even plugged into an amp!").

He apparently also lipsynced at the Emancipation launch party (at his own soundstage of all places), but his child had died a few days ago, so it's perfectly excusable. The Pussy Control performance was lip-synced too, but he really wasn't even trying to hide it with his gestures. The "Emancipation" performance(s?) in the UK, and the early American Bandstand thing. Which by the way, is a hilarious thing to watch even to this day.



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Reply #45 posted 03/10/09 4:49pm

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What about when he did, I wanna be your lover and Why you wanna treat me so bad back in 1980 on a tv show, (not too sure of it tho, way before i was born) which i saw on youtube ages ago. That soo looked lip synced. Even the music went quieter in the backgroud when they where still miming.
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Reply #46 posted 03/10/09 5:54pm

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Efan said:

novabrkr said:

The SOTT movie was not lipsynced, because it is not really live. Large parts of it were re-recorded later on in the studio because the initial takes were unusable - it is an assembled piece on the overall. That includes the drums from all of the curst as well, which is why they stick out from the mix in such a peculiar way. If anything it was a "lipsync in reverse" at most parts.

Well, the whole thing works, so I have no complains about it.


I love watching it and consider it a lot of fun, but I still think the explanations about it are weird. There are clearly parts that are lipsynched--It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night is the most obvious instance. He is frequently "singing" without a microphone in parts of that song.

I know the official answer is that it was supposed to be all live but then parts of the video were not usable or something like that. What I don't understand is why you would assemble a band of great musicians, put them on a soundstage, give them all their instruments, get all the cameras and recording equipment needed, and bring in an audience...and then not just have them do the same concert that they've been doing for months, have rehearsed, and are old pros at.

Couldn't they just have done the concert there at Paisley Park, recorded it, and made that the concert film?


then u have obviously never seen prince during multiple nights on a tour or heard multiple nights from the same tour 2 find out that every show is DIFFERENT regardless if it's the same songs ..especially with a song like it's gonna b a beautiful night where he changed how it was done every single night ..the same is with rehearsals ..something different about those..so he took the audio from the 3 rotterdam shows and just recreated the per4mances from that
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #47 posted 03/10/09 6:27pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Efan said:



I love watching it and consider it a lot of fun, but I still think the explanations about it are weird. There are clearly parts that are lipsynched--It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night is the most obvious instance. He is frequently "singing" without a microphone in parts of that song.

I know the official answer is that it was supposed to be all live but then parts of the video were not usable or something like that. What I don't understand is why you would assemble a band of great musicians, put them on a soundstage, give them all their instruments, get all the cameras and recording equipment needed, and bring in an audience...and then not just have them do the same concert that they've been doing for months, have rehearsed, and are old pros at.

Couldn't they just have done the concert there at Paisley Park, recorded it, and made that the concert film?


then u have obviously never seen prince during multiple nights on a tour or heard multiple nights from the same tour 2 find out that every show is DIFFERENT regardless if it's the same songs ..especially with a song like it's gonna b a beautiful night where he changed how it was done every single night ..the same is with rehearsals ..something different about those..so he took the audio from the 3 rotterdam shows and just recreated the per4mances from that


Um, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
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Reply #48 posted 03/10/09 7:37pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He lip synched Emancipation, not once, but twice.


i know once on the NAACP awards...
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Reply #49 posted 03/10/09 10:53pm

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Efan said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



then u have obviously never seen prince during multiple nights on a tour or heard multiple nights from the same tour 2 find out that every show is DIFFERENT regardless if it's the same songs ..especially with a song like it's gonna b a beautiful night where he changed how it was done every single night ..the same is with rehearsals ..something different about those..so he took the audio from the 3 rotterdam shows and just recreated the per4mances from that


Um, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.


yes it does cause ur wondering y not do the same show that they have been doing 4 months ..every show is not the same and the per4mance taking from when the cameras were 1st rolling is awesome. and in one aspect it documented xactly what prince wanted 4 the film. it was just the video shot from the concert wasn't useable.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #50 posted 03/10/09 11:28pm

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he mos def lipsynched Lil Red Corvette on Sold Gold
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Reply #51 posted 03/10/09 11:29pm

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and American Bandstand and I think on Soul Train too
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Reply #52 posted 03/11/09 12:00am

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I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.
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Reply #53 posted 03/11/09 12:02am

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squirrelgrease said:

I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.



but not the arsenio performance
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Reply #54 posted 03/11/09 12:48am

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PEJ said:

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I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.



but not the arsenio performance


That was some serious lip-syncing. I was embarrassed for him.
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Reply #55 posted 03/11/09 5:20am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Efan said:



Um, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.


yes it does cause ur wondering y not do the same show that they have been doing 4 months ..every show is not the same and the per4mance taking from when the cameras were 1st rolling is awesome. and in one aspect it documented xactly what prince wanted 4 the film. it was just the video shot from the concert wasn't useable.


No, I'm not. I'm wondering why you would assemble a band and have them lipsynch and pretend to play instruments for a concert film. Your condescending notion that I don't know what Prince concerts are like is nonsense. I'm not saying that every one of his concerts is the same. I'm saying that the band had been on the SOTT tour and would have been ready to play a kick-ass concert on the Paisley Park stage if they needed to be.

Are you saying that Prince and that band weren't talented enough to put on a concert that was at least as good as the recorded one?
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Reply #56 posted 03/11/09 6:33am

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squirrelgrease said:

I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.




?????
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Reply #57 posted 03/11/09 7:05am

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squirrelgrease said:

I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.

confused Aren't all music videos lip-synched?
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Reply #58 posted 03/11/09 7:13am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Efan said:



Um, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.


yes it does cause ur wondering y not do the same show that they have been doing 4 months ..every show is not the same and the per4mance taking from when the cameras were 1st rolling is awesome. and in one aspect it documented xactly what prince wanted 4 the film. it was just the video shot from the concert wasn't useable.


No, apparently the audio was (for the most part at least) rerecorded as well.
So Efan's question is a very valid one. I've often asked myself the same thing. There really doesn't seem to be a logical explanation. But then, it IS Prince we're talking bout right? cool
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Reply #59 posted 03/11/09 9:04am

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JayJai said:

squirrelgrease said:

I think he was lip-syncing in the My Name Is Prince video, too.

confused Aren't all music videos lip-synched?




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