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Thread started 11/15/02 6:42am

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Bucket of Squirrel Meat?? Huh??

What on earth was Prince talking about when he mentioned a bucket of squirrel meat?

Was that something he saw while tripping?
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Reply #1 posted 11/15/02 7:24am

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I believe it's swirl meat not squirrel meat.

I believe it to be a stew of left over meats. A lot of names of foods came from early southern black living.

On the plantation, black families ate what was left over from the white family meal.

Thus you got your chicken gizzards, cow tounges, pigs feet, and all other kinds of recipies using what the white man didn't want. You see, the black family was not allowed to eat with the white family even though they cooked the food anyway. And prepared what was to be thrown out.

Even after slavery was abolished, black families still couldn't afford to buy or were refused to be able to buy choice meats, but were still able to buy from the butcher what was to be thrown out.

Pig's feet, cow tongue, chicken neck.

It was messed up. But that really is the truth to where a lot of these food names come from.

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Reply #2 posted 11/15/02 7:29am

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Also, a lot of cooking was done by deep frying mainly because it was cheaper to put lard or oil in a pot than to actually own a stove or oven.


These reciepies have survived generations. There is a "soul food" dinner just down the road from here.

You can still order pigs feet, coller greens, chicken neck, or what ever.

It's owned and ran by two beautiful elderly black women who treat you like your their own grandchild. That dinner has been there for like 50 years.
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Reply #3 posted 11/15/02 7:40am

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That *was* a weird one...I always chalked it up to something similar to "chicken grease." Just a weird funk-ay saying.
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...but now that I read yamomma's comments, those make sense to me.
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Reply #5 posted 11/15/02 7:41am

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I don't know, I'm pretty sure he said "squirrel meat"

I even read it in a review of the Black Album.

It mentioned squirrel meat, and then said.

"He may be a fruit, but at least he ain't no vegetarian!"

HAHAHA. Oh my, how things have changed.

And keep changing.

And never stop changing.
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Reply #6 posted 11/15/02 7:46am

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Just ask big momma!
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Reply #7 posted 11/15/02 7:54am

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It really is squirrel meat, but I don't know why...

He has said some strange things in his time...
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Reply #8 posted 11/15/02 8:03am

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IceNine said:

It really is squirrel meat, but I don't know why...

He has said some strange things in his time...



Not so strange when you look at the roots. Growing up in Tennessee I heard these names for foods all the time.

Yes there was squirrel meat, but you cooked that on a stick over a fire.

Swirl meat you would take all the leftovers and throw into a bucket/pot and cook over a fire/stove.

Same with chicken grease. You saved the grease everytime you cooked and greased the pan with it the next time.

The grease was good, cause you could taste all kinds of stuff. Lots of flavors no matter what you cooked.

I'm sticking with swirl meat.

I've had squirrel meat. It was the poor mans dinner. You went out in the back yard and popped the squirrel's nest in the nearest tree. Down fell "Rocky".

I remember picking "buckshot" out of the meat.

Oh, my goodness, I think I'm exposing too much of myself.
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Reply #9 posted 11/15/02 8:18am

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yamomma said:

IceNine said:

It really is squirrel meat, but I don't know why...

He has said some strange things in his time...



Not so strange when you look at the roots. Growing up in Tennessee I heard these names for foods all the time.

Yes there was squirrel meat, but you cooked that on a stick over a fire.

Swirl meat you would take all the leftovers and throw into a bucket/pot and cook over a fire/stove.

Same with chicken grease. You saved the grease everytime you cooked and greased the pan with it the next time.

The grease was good, cause you could taste all kinds of stuff. Lots of flavors no matter what you cooked.

I'm sticking with swirl meat.

I've had squirrel meat. It was the poor mans dinner. You went out in the back yard and popped the squirrel's nest in the nearest tree. Down fell "Rocky".

I remember picking "buckshot" out of the meat.

Oh, my goodness, I think I'm exposing too much of myself.


no no no!

I've been enjoying your recent "open" posts. biggrin
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LaVisHh said:

I've been enjoying your recent "open" posts. biggrin



Awe, shucks...
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Reply #11 posted 11/15/02 9:45am

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Bucket of Swirl Meat:

2 beaten eggs
1/2 cup milk
1/2 cup chopped onion
2 pounds ground beef
1-1/2 cups soft bread crumbs (about 2 slices)
1-1/2 cups shredded raw potato
2 tablespoons snipped parsley
1 teaspoon ground sage
1/4 pound shredded chicken
1/4 pound ground pork
1/4 pound ground beef

1 five gallon bucket

Combine 1 of the eggs, milk, 1/4 cup of the onion, 2 tespoons salt, and dash pepper. Add beef; mix well. On waxed paper, pat beef mixture to a 10-inch square; set aside. Combine remaining egg, bread crumbs, potato, remaining onion, parsley, sage, and 1/2 teaspoon salt. Add pork, chichen, beef; mix well. Spread over beef layer. Roll up jelly-roll fashion. Place seam side down in shallow pan. Bake in 350 F oven 1-1/4 hours.

Put all into bucket and serve
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Reply #12 posted 11/15/02 9:46am

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Besides, squirrel meat comes in cans, not buckets.

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‘It appears that in Finland they have started farming and eating blue squirrels. This has caused a major upheaval and led to animal rights protestors breaking into the farms and freeing some 12900 Blue squirrels into the wild. Unfortunately the squirrels then turned on the protestors and proceeded to eat all but twelve of them (taking the rest hostage). They found the nearest forest and set up base camp. People that have gone near the forest claim that they can hear sawing and iron making and believe that the squirrels are forcing their captives into some kind of sick battle re-enactment spectacle involving hammers and mice.’

Finnish Squirrel meat is of high quality and Finnish squirrels have avoided such international problems as BSE and foot-and-mouth disease. A glance at the meat counter in a supermarket or butcher's shop gives a good picture of the range and uses of squirrel meat in Finland. Minced squirrel is the best seller; meatballs and meat sauce similar to bolognese are two of its favourite end products. The centrepiece of the traditional Finnish Christmas dinner is a large leg of squirrel. New and fashionable ways of preparing squirrel have made "wok-ready" sliced squirrel and chicken available in all food stores. Minced squirrel has now become an everyday economical choice for many families, competing for the lead with the ever popular Finnish squirrel sausage.



Roast Squirrel is the festive fare at Easter. Squirrel tails combined with cabbage to make a delicious squirrel stew or soup, while minced squirrel is used as a filling for cabbage rolls or oven-baked squirrel and cabbage casserole. Also delicious is smoked squirrel. The changing seasons bring their own bounty to the choice of meats. During the hunting season, wild blue squirrel is widely available. Finns use a lot of cold cuts for open sandwiches. In keeping with the times, these cold processed squirrel meats are now low-salt, low-fat "light" products.

Boiled Squirrel with egg sauce

  • Remove the fur from the squirrel, clean it and wash it well, and remove the head and tail. Cut the squirrel into four equal-sized pieces.
  • Place the pieces, the head (wash it first) and the tail in a saucepan. Cover with water. Add salt.
  • Bring to the boil and remove the froth that appears on the surface. Add the vegetables, the bay leaves and the peppercorns. Simmer for about 15 - 20 minutes until tender.
  • Melt the butter and stew the butter in it for a couple of minutes. Allow the mixture to brown.
  • Add the heated milk in a couple of stages and whisk the mixture until it is smooth.
  • Finally, add the sieved squirrel stock and simmer the sauce for 10 minutes. Season with salt and pepper.
  • Mix the egg and dill into the sauce and heat. If necessary, use the remaining squirrel stock to thin the sauce. Take the squirrel pieces from the stock and drain well before serving.


Serve with boiled potatoes.

1 BLUE SQUIRREL
WATER AND COARSE SALT
1 ONION, FINELY SLICED
1 CARROT, FINELY SLICED
PIECE OF THE GREEN PART OF A LEEK
1 BAY LEAF
5 ALLSPICE PEPPERCORNS AND 5 WHITE PEPPERCORNS

40 G BUTTER
40 G FLOUR
1/2 L MILK
1 DL COOKING LIQUID FROM THE PIKE
SALT AND FRESHLY GROUND WHITE PEPPER
100 G EGG, BOILED AND FINELY CHOPPED
4 TBSP DILL, FINELY CHOPPED

4 servings
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Reply #14 posted 11/15/02 10:00am

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The sad part about Brunswick Stew is that squirrel meat is almost never used anymore. Would you believe, Chicken? Chickens, in Brunswick Stew? Not even rabbit, and that you can get at International or Gourmet stores.

The dish was invented, Virginians assert, in Brunswick County, VA. A county of the same name in North Carolina and some citizens of Brunswick, GA., also lay claim to have originated the stew.

It's a pitiful state of affairs for the South. Sure, it's a big deal in Brunswick County, Virginia about the stew, but do they use squirrel meat? Of course not, they use chickens! Bah, Humbug!

I say that any true American worth their salt should use squirrel in Brunswick stew. Too citified to hunt, kill, dress and cook small game? Forgot how to skin a rabbit or squirrel? To prissy to gut an animal and clean the hide? Shame on you, America--you've all become yuppies.

I realize that one of the problems is that we've lost the right to hunt and kill animals indiscriminantly. Fairfax County, Virginia, for instance, requires a $40 license to hunt a maximum of six squirrels a day, twelve per season. That's only a two day season! You only need two squirrels for a stew, so that's $20 a piece for squirrel meat. Then you have to take your catch to the sheriff for verification. Not to mention the cost of a good squirrel dog and rifle, ammunition, hunting clothes, etc. It could add up to hundreds of dollars just for one meal. My gosh, people, what has happened to our American way-of-life?

It seems to me that there is an entrepreneurial opportunity here. If there are rabbit ranches in the West, why not squirrel wrangling here in the East? Now there's a franchising opportunity if I ever saw one.

Another option you have is to rent a Havahart trap from the animal shelter and bait it with peanut butter sandwiches. You can get two fat squirrels out of your back yard real easy this way. Just keep it quiet and don't boast to your neighbors.

Again, if all else fails, and you can't get squirrels, use rabbit meat and lie about it. The kids will never know the difference. Heck, you could say it was 'possum or even raccoon, what would they know?



BRUNSWICK STEW (ca. 1948)

2 plump squirrels
Flour to dredge
Salt, black pepper
Bacon fat
6 onions, thinly sliced
3 cups boiling water
6 tomatoes, peeled and sliced
3 red peppers
Generous pinch thyme
1 qt lima beans
Kernels of 6 ears green corn
1 qt okra
1 tbsp chopped parsley
1 tbsp Worcestershire sauce

Cut the squirrels and saddles for frying. Dredge them with the flour, salt, and pepper, and brown them nicely in bacon fat with the onions. Put the meat and onions in a large iron stew pot, or an earthen casserole. Add the boiling water, tomatoes, red peppers, and thyme, and let this mixture simmer for an hour. Add all remaining ingredients to the stew and let simmer, covered, till the meat and vegetables are tender. The consistency should be that of rich soup, but some times the broth is thickened slightly with roux or some fine bread crumbs.
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Reply #15 posted 11/15/02 10:13am

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It's also good for you.

Game meat, squirrel, raw

http://www.touchmoon.com/...irrel.html
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Reply #16 posted 11/15/02 12:58pm

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Tom said:

What on earth was Prince talking about when he mentioned a bucket of squirrel meat?

Was that something he saw while tripping?


I LOVE that song. He does TOO say 'squirrel meat'.
I always take it to mean funk. But I would buy that it might mean drugs. . .coke maybe? Some kind of party drug.

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Reply #17 posted 11/15/02 1:10pm

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It's Squirrel Meat.

And at the end of the Sign of the Times concert video, you'll see "If your body gets tired keep dancin'...", the same line from Superfunkycalifragisexy.

It says Squirrel Meat if I recall correctly.
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Reply #18 posted 11/15/02 3:58pm

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stickyblack said:

It's Squirrel Meat.

And at the end of the Sign of the Times concert video, you'll see "If your body gets tired keep dancin'...", the same line from Superfunkycalifragisexy.

It says Squirrel Meat if I recall correctly.


You're right. I was thinking the same, so I checked:
...'cuz you gotta keep the blood flowing down to your feet
Brother Brooks will be round in a minute with a bucket filled in it...squirrel meat."
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Reply #19 posted 11/15/02 4:07pm

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He said "Squirrel Meat" because Brother Brooks wore that funky Squirrel hat..

Back then, Prince believed in developing "characters" of memebers of his band (especially those who did not play instruments other than percussion and sound effects)

He had no Jerome.. No comedic foil.. No "Sir Nose"..

I guess he felt that dropping hints of Brother Brooks here and there would give the band a little more personality..
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Reply #20 posted 11/15/02 4:14pm

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It's also good for you.

Game meat, squirrel, raw

http://www.touchmoon.com/...irrel.html
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You should have your own forum section, devoted to teaching us about the South

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LaVisHh said:

yamomma said:

It's also good for you.

Game meat, squirrel, raw

http://www.touchmoon.com/...irrel.html
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You should have your own forum section, devoted to teaching us about the South

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To be continued on a much more detailed thread.


To give you an idea, read the song in my profile.
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Reply #22 posted 11/16/02 6:59am

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Life is good, when you're out of the quicksand.
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Don't get me wrong, Where I grew up was one of the most beautiful places I could have ever had the honor of being "placed" as a child.

I wouldn't trade my childhood for anything.
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Reply #24 posted 11/16/02 7:03am

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To me, it is sad to know that a family can be ripped apart by something as wild as a pack of ravinous wolves.

Yes, it is sad.

But on a better note, that was my 100th posting!
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eek yamomma
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Reply #26 posted 11/16/02 5:27pm

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To those of you who live in the south,I have a question for you...


Please don't get offended,but I really wanna know

Have you ever eaten possom or raccoon? My dad is from Missisippi and he says as a kid,he ate this regularly.It's very common in the Southern states.

Please tell us what it tastes like!
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Reply #27 posted 11/16/02 6:01pm

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I don't think Prince was promoting "Squirrel Meat" when he sang about it on the Sign of the Times Video. If you'll notice he was teary eyed.
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Reply #28 posted 11/16/02 9:27pm

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It's squirlle meat, and it's a refrence to pussy, or women. Someone who has som many women, he can just pass them out in a bucket. I always imagine the way pussy lips look...like squirle meat.
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Reply #29 posted 11/16/02 11:21pm

Natasha

I always thought it was just something he made up. Squirrel Meat actually Exists and some people eat it? Gross-Out! What is he talking about when he says If You Drink To Much Your Skin Will be sensitive To The Touch...First person Who Touches You ..You wanna fuck? Actually,it does sound kinda Quasi-Drug Laced Referenced.
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