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PrintableWendy&Lisa were tight Studio Musicians IMHO&Brought a Texture too Prince's Vibe for that time period IMHO.but Prince I think while vibing with them in the Studio was just getting His Sly&The Family Stone on for breaking down Image Bariers more than anything IMHO.the Girls could Play&Write&they were together&you create the Multi-Racial&Sexual Vibe? Prince was bringing His 60's Flower Power Vibe with also Selling this Updated Image of Sly&The Family Stone IMHO.now on Stage Lisa Sounded Good Playing but Vocally Wendy&Lisa didn't Sound So Hot for Me Live Singing.but Prince Played a Image Card&Scored Highly with it IMHO.He got the Attention&Open Band He Wanted without really Opening it?Smart Creative&Business Move for Prince IMHO. mistermaxxx | |
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I liked the sound Prince had with wendy and Lisa but his music is not Suffering and truly here are some examples of Wonderful albums Diamonds and Pearls,Symbol,Emancipation, Come, NPG ,Rainbow Children,ONA Prince has Always been the Definitive Force behind every Success and Project. Why did he get rid of any of the band-members? They were all good. Does he just like New and Different Perspectives? I think the NPG could have been just as good as this band if not Better. The musicians Prince uses are always Wonderful,but it is Temporary and then he sends them on their Own.or Fires them so we are told. Nobody knows why and I'm sure they are Confused. Only Prince knows and since he doesn't speak about his Personal Business{Very Private Person} people Snoop and gossip. Really,I think it just makes us more intrigued and that's part of his Mystique. Prince is a smarty pants. That's for Damn Sure. Brilliant is what he is . Simply Brilliant. | |
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lovebizzare said: Who said they introduced him to jazz? Whoever said that needs to be slapped. I love W+L but come on...
[This message was edited Fri Dec 6 20:35:23 PST 2002 by lovebizzare] [This message was edited Fri Dec 6 20:36:34 PST 2002 by lovebizzare] I read so much junk here over time, I don't remember who specifically. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: camille2002 said: To make it even more clear on what I am trying to say, W and L introduced Prince to a lot of music that he didn't really pay intention to until they both started puttin' him up on music from artist like The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd etc. Before Prince was a fien for artist like JB, Hendrix, Sly, Stevie etc. more soul type of stuff. And when W and L shared their taste of music with him, he dug it, and incorparted it into his music, with W and L suggestions, and help of course.
JB, Hendrix, Sly, and Stevie are EVERY bit as different from each other as the Beatles, Zep and Floyd are different from each other. All the former four aren't soul type of music, that's patently untrue. Just because they're all Black doesn't mean they're soul music artists in the strict sense. I don't understand this mentality that Wendy & Lisa introduced Prince to a supposedly wider scope of music. Someone also at one time said that they introduced Prince to jazz music. Yeah... Prince's father was a jazz musician. Prince also grew up in a city that doesn't have a large percentage of Blacks - why wouldn't he already have been exposed to the likes of the Beatles/Zep/Floyd who are huge in every corner of the world and have to wait for someone to bring them to his attention? Musically speaking he did not live in a vacuum. Like any very young, wet-behind-the-ears, potentially great musician it was obvious that Prince was going to incorporate different infuences into his music as time went on, it was also obvious that he was evolving and coming into his own as the late '70s came to a close and the '80s came around. Every album was stylistically different, and more accomplished, from the first to last even before the Wendy/Lisa duo. Sure, there's no doubt he was influenced by what they brought to the table for him. But it's not like he had to wait for someone to bring it to his table when he was inquisitive about music in general in the first place - and his music pre-Wendy/Lisa showed that he was. His musical growth was evident before his mainstream commercial success. And I think it's partly because of that success that it makes everyone overestimate them sometimes. This is the reason people here constantly bring up what he SHOULD do to get back on the pop charts. But then, I don't expect anyone to admit it. Eric Leeds and Wendy & Lisa both mentioned in interviews how they exposed Prince to a variety of different kinds of music during the early 80s.I belive Wendy & Lisa brought classical influences to Princes music, not jazz. His music kind of lacks the complexity it used to have. Maybe its because w&l could read/write notes. Condition of the Heart sounds more sophisticated than Here on Earth for example. Wendy & Lisa solo work is good too, not the most amazing thing, but still very good in its own right. They too are missing something without Prince. You can definitely see a void in Prince's music after they left the band. | |
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Tom said: Supernova said: camille2002 said: To make it even more clear on what I am trying to say, W and L introduced Prince to a lot of music that he didn't really pay intention to until they both started puttin' him up on music from artist like The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd etc. Before Prince was a fien for artist like JB, Hendrix, Sly, Stevie etc. more soul type of stuff. And when W and L shared their taste of music with him, he dug it, and incorparted it into his music, with W and L suggestions, and help of course.
JB, Hendrix, Sly, and Stevie are EVERY bit as different from each other as the Beatles, Zep and Floyd are different from each other. All the former four aren't soul type of music, that's patently untrue. Just because they're all Black doesn't mean they're soul music artists in the strict sense. I don't understand this mentality that Wendy & Lisa introduced Prince to a supposedly wider scope of music. Someone also at one time said that they introduced Prince to jazz music. Yeah... Prince's father was a jazz musician. Prince also grew up in a city that doesn't have a large percentage of Blacks - why wouldn't he already have been exposed to the likes of the Beatles/Zep/Floyd who are huge in every corner of the world and have to wait for someone to bring them to his attention? Musically speaking he did not live in a vacuum. Like any very young, wet-behind-the-ears, potentially great musician it was obvious that Prince was going to incorporate different infuences into his music as time went on, it was also obvious that he was evolving and coming into his own as the late '70s came to a close and the '80s came around. Every album was stylistically different, and more accomplished, from the first to last even before the Wendy/Lisa duo. Sure, there's no doubt he was influenced by what they brought to the table for him. But it's not like he had to wait for someone to bring it to his table when he was inquisitive about music in general in the first place - and his music pre-Wendy/Lisa showed that he was. His musical growth was evident before his mainstream commercial success. And I think it's partly because of that success that it makes everyone overestimate them sometimes. This is the reason people here constantly bring up what he SHOULD do to get back on the pop charts. But then, I don't expect anyone to admit it. Eric Leeds and Wendy & Lisa both mentioned in interviews how they exposed Prince to a variety of different kinds of music during the early 80s. Which is why I said: Sure, there's no doubt he was influenced by what they brought to the table for him. But it's not like he had to wait for someone to bring it to his table when he was inquisitive about music in general in the first place - and his music pre-Wendy/Lisa showed that he was.
I belive Wendy & Lisa brought classical influences to Princes music, not jazz. His music kind of lacks the complexity it used to have. Maybe its because w&l could read/write notes.
Reading and writing musical notation has nothing at all to do with complexity. Jimi Hendrix couldn't read or write a note of music, but some of his work was pretty darn complex. Believe it or not, most musicians in the music industry don't read music. But it's different for studio musicians. Wendy & Lisa solo work is good too, not the most amazing thing, but still very good in its own right. They too are missing something without Prince. You can definitely see a void in Prince's music after they left the band.
I saw the void in Prince's own complacent mentality for a while. I don't think they could add anything distinct to what he's been doing lately. They may be good sidewomen, but there was a time that sound that that version of the Revolution had wasn't needed anymore. There are times to move on and go into other areas. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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