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If I Was Ur Girlfriend David Bowie Involvement?

When i first listened 2 this track & even after now, where the muttering in chorus, 'If I Was Ur Girlfriend', its in a Cockney accent, very much like David Bowie.

Maybe they did some tracks 2 gether?

Sam 8)
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Reply #1 posted 02/21/09 11:26am

Anxiety

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.
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Reply #2 posted 02/21/09 11:41am

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Interesting. What u say may be true logically, 2 self developed musicians who are on sa,me level. Prince only work with the best, pionners.

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Reply #3 posted 02/21/09 12:16pm

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[Edited 12/29/09 9:20am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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[Edited 12/29/09 9:20am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #5 posted 02/21/09 1:10pm

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Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.




thats new to me. Bowie is one artist I have never heard of Prince having any involvement with.
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Reply #6 posted 02/21/09 1:15pm

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sambluedolphin said:

When i first listened 2 this track & even after now, where the muttering in chorus, 'If I Was Ur Girlfriend', its in a Cockney accent, very much like David Bowie.

Maybe they did some tracks 2 gether?

Sam 8)


They've never worked together though it's a shame that when Prince was still making relevant music he didn't do something with Bowie as opposed to the talentless horde of proteges he was attempting to sell to the public as viable musicians and/or singers.

There's certainly an obvious correlation between Bowie and Prince's rise to fame from their early careers which were heavy on androgyny and trailblazing music into their more regal phases, Prince with Parade, Bowie at stops and starts from Young Americans to Scary Monsters. I've never heard much of a Bowie influence in Prince's music however which is a shame. Prince was certainly a unique talent and one of the most vital figures in the history of pop but the majority of sounds he was influenced by were rather, as far as I can gather, a who's who of popular music from his youth and formative years. Perhaps if he'd gone beyond Top 40 pop and soul he'd still have something to offer today beyond regurgitated pop and r/b. For evidence of this, see his choice of some recent covers: Let's Go by the Cars and for the billionth time, a Sly Stone medley. Crimson and Clover is a capable cover that would make a tidy b-side but imagine had he turned his talent to something from Ziggy or the aforementioned Scary Monsters and Super Creeps.
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Reply #7 posted 02/21/09 1:29pm

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Now these two could do something interesting together.
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Reply #8 posted 02/21/09 1:35pm

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PEJ said:

Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.




thats new to me. Bowie is one artist I have never heard of Prince having any involvement with.



Didn't Prince attend a show honouring Bowie in the mid nineties? He didn't perform but i'm certain he was there.
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Reply #9 posted 02/21/09 2:09pm

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Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.

Was it Bowie or Prince who, in response to being asked about this, said "You should have been there."...?
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Reply #10 posted 02/21/09 2:49pm

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Wall said:

sambluedolphin said:

When i first listened 2 this track & even after now, where the muttering in chorus, 'If I Was Ur Girlfriend', its in a Cockney accent, very much like David Bowie.

Maybe they did some tracks 2 gether?

Sam 8)


They've never worked together though it's a shame that when Prince was still making relevant music he didn't do something with Bowie as opposed to the talentless horde of proteges he was attempting to sell to the public as viable musicians and/or singers.

There's certainly an obvious correlation between Bowie and Prince's rise to fame from their early careers which were heavy on androgyny and trailblazing music into their more regal phases, Prince with Parade, Bowie at stops and starts from Young Americans to Scary Monsters. I've never heard much of a Bowie influence in Prince's music however which is a shame. Prince was certainly a unique talent and one of the most vital figures in the history of pop but the majority of sounds he was influenced by were rather, as far as I can gather, a who's who of popular music from his youth and formative years. Perhaps if he'd gone beyond Top 40 pop and soul he'd still have something to offer today beyond regurgitated pop and r/b. For evidence of this, see his choice of some recent covers: Let's Go by the Cars and for the billionth time, a Sly Stone medley. Crimson and Clover is a capable cover that would make a tidy b-side but imagine had he turned his talent to something from Ziggy or the aforementioned Scary Monsters and Super Creeps.


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Reply #11 posted 02/21/09 5:19pm

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they've never collaborated together but it's always been one of my wishes - two talented trailblazers who would make a very cool recording duo in the studio and on wax
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Reply #12 posted 02/21/09 6:24pm

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Wall said:

sambluedolphin said:

When i first listened 2 this track & even after now, where the muttering in chorus, 'If I Was Ur Girlfriend', its in a Cockney accent, very much like David Bowie.

Maybe they did some tracks 2 gether?

Sam 8)


They've never worked together though it's a shame that when Prince was still making relevant music he didn't do something with Bowie as opposed to the talentless horde of proteges he was attempting to sell to the public as viable musicians and/or singers.

There's certainly an obvious correlation between Bowie and Prince's rise to fame from their early careers which were heavy on androgyny and trailblazing music into their more regal phases, Prince with Parade, Bowie at stops and starts from Young Americans to Scary Monsters. I've never heard much of a Bowie influence in Prince's music however which is a shame. Prince was certainly a unique talent and one of the most vital figures in the history of pop but the majority of sounds he was influenced by were rather, as far as I can gather, a who's who of popular music from his youth and formative years. Perhaps if he'd gone beyond Top 40 pop and soul he'd still have something to offer today beyond regurgitated pop and r/b. For evidence of this, see his choice of some recent covers: Let's Go by the Cars and for the billionth time, a Sly Stone medley. Crimson and Clover is a capable cover that would make a tidy b-side but imagine had he turned his talent to something from Ziggy or the aforementioned Scary Monsters and Super Creeps.


Wh3n wa$ th3 la$t tim3 U $aid $om3thing r3l3vant?
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Reply #13 posted 02/21/09 6:38pm

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Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.



In LIFE magazine 25 years of Rock & Roll special issue, David Bowie say:

"I don't like Nirvana, I think they will be remembered for that one song, I think the only one doing something special right now is Prince"

Something like that, I need to go over my old magazines boxes to get the right quote.

Bowie and Prince will be my dream come true.
"I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ
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Reply #14 posted 02/21/09 7:24pm

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[Edited 12/29/09 9:21am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #15 posted 02/23/09 9:16pm

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aarontj said:

Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.



In LIFE magazine 25 years of Rock & Roll special issue, David Bowie say:

"I don't like Nirvana, I think they will be remembered for that one song, I think the only one doing something special right now is Prince"

Something like that, I need to go over my old magazines boxes to get the right quote.

Bowie and Prince will be my dream come true.

Something tells me Mr. Jones guessed wrong about Kurt & Co. razz
[Edited 2/23/09 21:17pm]
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Reply #16 posted 02/23/09 10:31pm

tangerine7

theres a song of princes i cant think of which one right now where princes voice sounds like davids or vice versa for a few lines like in davids space odyssey.
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Reply #17 posted 02/24/09 1:40am

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tangerine7 said:

theres a song of princes i cant think of which one right now where princes voice sounds like davids or vice versa for a few lines like in davids space odyssey.


'I wanna melt with U'?
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Reply #18 posted 02/24/09 7:26am

Anxiety

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aarontj said:




In LIFE magazine 25 years of Rock & Roll special issue, David Bowie say:

"I don't like Nirvana, I think they will be remembered for that one song, I think the only one doing something special right now is Prince"

Something like that, I need to go over my old magazines boxes to get the right quote.

Bowie and Prince will be my dream come true.

Something tells me Mr. Jones guessed wrong about Kurt & Co. razz
[Edited 2/23/09 21:17pm]


he must have come around, since he spoke highly of their bowie cover on MTV unplugged, and had dave grohl & foo fighters play with him at his 50th birthday concert. shrug
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Reply #19 posted 02/24/09 9:06am

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Bowies last two albums were great... but he suffers from what all aging artists suffer from (via the public), people don't recognize the new stuff, they'll always identify him with stuff he did 20-25 years ago.

That said I think a Bowie / Prince collaboration (while extremely unlikely) would be awesome. A double-headling concert with the two of them appearing on each others songs like Bowie did with NIN would be insane..
Change it one more time..
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Reply #20 posted 02/24/09 9:08am

Anxiety

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Bowies last two albums were great... but he suffers from what all aging artists suffer from (via the public), people don't recognize the new stuff, they'll always identify him with stuff he did 20-25 years ago.

That said I think a Bowie / Prince collaboration (while extremely unlikely) would be awesome. A double-headling concert with the two of them appearing on each others songs like Bowie did with NIN would be insane..


i would die a happy man if they ever did a co-headlining tour together...though i would be beside myself trying to get tix for as many shows as possible, so i'd probably go bankrupt if this ever happened...so i guess i hope it never does. sad
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lezama said:

Bowies last two albums were great... but he suffers from what all aging artists suffer from (via the public), people don't recognize the new stuff, they'll always identify him with stuff he did 20-25 years ago.

That said I think a Bowie / Prince collaboration (while extremely unlikely) would be awesome. A double-headling concert with the two of them appearing on each others songs like Bowie did with NIN would be insane..


Prince should look into how Bowie has handled himself as he's aged. He's still making relevant music and holding onto his dignity. He's not attempting to mimic the sounds and trends of artists like Hannah Montana and Brooke Hogan. Can you imagine Bowie singing that horrendous, self-parody in action of a song "Chocolate Box."
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Reply #22 posted 02/24/09 9:26am

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sambluedolphin said:

Prince only work with the best, pionners.

Sam 8)


Surely you're joking: Apollonia, Vanity, Sheena Easton, Tony M, Scrap D and DVS (to name but a few) are hardly "masters" or "pioneers".
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Reply #23 posted 02/24/09 9:40am

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Wall said:

lezama said:

Bowies last two albums were great... but he suffers from what all aging artists suffer from (via the public), people don't recognize the new stuff, they'll always identify him with stuff he did 20-25 years ago.

That said I think a Bowie / Prince collaboration (while extremely unlikely) would be awesome. A double-headling concert with the two of them appearing on each others songs like Bowie did with NIN would be insane..


Prince should look into how Bowie has handled himself as he's aged. He's still making relevant music and holding onto his dignity. He's not attempting to mimic the sounds and trends of artists like Hannah Montana and Brooke Hogan. Can you imagine Bowie singing that horrendous, self-parody in action of a song "Chocolate Box."


While I agree with the essence of what you're saying, we should remember that when Bowie was Prince's current age he too was trying to find himself with a "younger" sound (in Earthling... which I liked btw). 50's a rough age... its officially "old". I think it really scares most people and they sometimes want to resist that label and do so by embracing their youthfulness for one last time.
Change it one more time..
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lezama said:

Wall said:



Prince should look into how Bowie has handled himself as he's aged. He's still making relevant music and holding onto his dignity. He's not attempting to mimic the sounds and trends of artists like Hannah Montana and Brooke Hogan. Can you imagine Bowie singing that horrendous, self-parody in action of a song "Chocolate Box."


While I agree with the essence of what you're saying, we should remember that when Bowie was Prince's current age he too was trying to find himself with a "younger" sound (in Earthling... which I liked btw). 50's a rough age... its officially "old". I think it really scares most people and they sometimes want to resist that label and do so by embracing their youthfulness for one last time.

But for all critics and the public bitched about albums like Earthling, the music still holds up pretty well. Will Prince be able to say the same thing 10 years from now?
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Reply #25 posted 02/24/09 10:36am

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sambluedolphin said:

When i first listened 2 this track & even after now, where the muttering in chorus, 'If I Was Ur Girlfriend', its in a Cockney accent, very much like David Bowie.

Maybe they did some tracks 2 gether?

Sam 8)


Maybe you're reading too much into it? Prince is credited as the writer.David Bowie never put a poppin' bass into a love song. No disrepect to Bowie, who I also love.
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Reply #26 posted 02/24/09 10:38am

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I could definitely see a Prince/Bowie performance; doing renditions of one another's songs but a new collaboration/project seems unlikely. Either the different styles of music would clash or someone's ego would get in the way. cool
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Reply #27 posted 02/24/09 10:47am

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Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.

Was it Bowie or Prince who, in response to being asked about this, said "You should have been there."...?


Prince. He stated this on a web-based Q&A -session on his very first own website after the release of "Emancipation". He was asked by a fan whether he would like to work with David Bowie if given the chance. He was probably referring to the late eighties meeting(s).

btw, something remotely sounding like cockney doesn't necessarily mean it's a David Bowie -related issue, just thought I'd mention...
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Alexandernvrmind said:

Wall said:



They've never worked together though it's a shame that when Prince was still making relevant music he didn't do something with Bowie as opposed to the talentless horde of proteges he was attempting to sell to the public as viable musicians and/or singers.

There's certainly an obvious correlation between Bowie and Prince's rise to fame from their early careers which were heavy on androgyny and trailblazing music into their more regal phases, Prince with Parade, Bowie at stops and starts from Young Americans to Scary Monsters. I've never heard much of a Bowie influence in Prince's music however which is a shame. Prince was certainly a unique talent and one of the most vital figures in the history of pop but the majority of sounds he was influenced by were rather, as far as I can gather, a who's who of popular music from his youth and formative years. Perhaps if he'd gone beyond Top 40 pop and soul he'd still have something to offer today beyond regurgitated pop and r/b. For evidence of this, see his choice of some recent covers: Let's Go by the Cars and for the billionth time, a Sly Stone medley. Crimson and Clover is a capable cover that would make a tidy b-side but imagine had he turned his talent to something from Ziggy or the aforementioned Scary Monsters and Super Creeps.


yawn... it never stops with u
[Edited 2/22/09 16:52pm]


set it to a mid- 90s r&b groove and i bet you'd love these posts biggrin
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Anxiety said:

not that i know of. i've read rumblings of a meeting between prince and bowie in 1987, when prince attended a glass spider tour show and allegedly invited bowie and his band to paisley park to jam afterwards. i don't know much about that, though i wish i did.


I saw a show on the Glass Spiders tour in Sydney - it sucked! I was SO disappointed...

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